2013-03-24, 05:45 | Link #4301 | |
The Opened Ultimate Gate
Join Date: Dec 2011
Age: 29
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read this please Touma
Ranking the tier 10 Tanks Quote:
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2013-03-24, 11:54 | Link #4305 |
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Somehow, I don't like how people give important to the win rate statistic in this game.
It doesn't really reflect the individual skill but more like how many % of time you are on the good team. Sometime I think I did really good in battle ,but other teams was better than our team so I got another lose. (I think I am in bad luck, I often play really good in the match that my team lost.) Yet, people tend to judge individual skill by win rate. They should look at survival rate or kill/death rate insted. P.S. Currently, my win rate is at 45% out of about 800 games. P.S.2 To avoid any misunderstanding, I didn't post this in reply to above comments.
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2013-03-24, 12:09 | Link #4306 |
Banned
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Dai Korai Teikoku
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The better you are, the more likely you're going to carry the team. As Wil can attest to from our platoon yesterday, I probably did more to keep the team from falling apart by being at the location I'm needed the most.
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2013-03-24, 12:10 | Link #4307 |
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Unspecified
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Winrates mean "how much power you have to change tide of battle". person with higher winrates pretty sure have done lot of right thing in the battle than a person that have lower win rates.
weather it because a person kill more tank or spot more tank is different matter but certainly how good you doing this stuff, it will effect your chance of victory. you dont just get 60% percent win rates just because you always have "good" team. unleash if you platooning often. the team always changing. of course having a good team is matter in order to achieve victory but at same time you must factoring your personal skill. I dont think survival rate or kill/death rate is good indicator of how good are you. especially if you dealing with scout type person tl;dr there is definitely the different of skill between person with 60% winrates and person with 40% winrates
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2013-03-24, 12:11 | Link #4308 | |
Imagine Breaker
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: In A Certain Magical Place.
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2013-03-24, 12:32 | Link #4310 |
Le fou, c'est moi
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA
Age: 34
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Announcing the return of yours truly:
The east forest map. It turned into a brawl for the central town; I was there, second line, being useless, so I turned my gun east and made the enemy realize a forest doesn't stop shells and flankers don't always win. Close to the endgame, I easily survived a close quarters brawl with a full health Matilda. Lee should not survive brawls, and especially not with Matilda's armor. Thank the gods he didn't know where to shoot, and let me get to his back from the front, turned around, and made him pay. Also, nice derp run, Kimi. It was good being back. Now if only I know how to play T20. That thing wreaks havoc on my efficiency rate... |
2013-03-24, 12:39 | Link #4311 | |
Imagine Breaker
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: In A Certain Magical Place.
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That being said, I'll quote my previous comment, " there is no true stats that can determine a player's overall skill." With this anyone one of you could prolly beat me even though i'm an above average player. Dai and Wil tried to kill me one time in a match, too bad I died before they ever got to me. I tried to kill ES one time, but we ended up on the losing side, I think me, UTE, and Wil were plat that time, I forget. I remember ES was just watching the war game when our plat was doing most of the work... he was in his IS, but it was a tier 8 round. I was in a game with Ascaloth one time, he was in his VK T8, while i was in my T25/2 americano TD, we won the round despite both us dieing (I posted the round before and no we were not plat), I was in the same game as Q one time, we both died and lost (we were not plat either.) This being said, I'll quote SideStrafe, "Its all based on the luck of the die being rolled...", you win some you lose some, skill is just a perk to help you win although it does not guarantee it. For example Havok players can be beaten if they are soloed and not platoon, same with any Clan War clansmen. I've seen them win and lose, although I do notice that some player's like to talk smack more than me as a backseat driver. I've gone back to my passive state of backseat driving, just because I've been banned from chat once already. XD let me tell ya, its hard to play without the chat system, so thank god Q and Wil had bought Vent server, although no one really uses it imho besides, me, UTE, Wil (who's voice broke his mic prolly), Q (Tak on the forums), ES (EndlessSoul, its always fun to hear him chat), I used it to talk with Juke (who Q called a hyperactive guy) wonder when he'll be back... he told us he won't be on for 2 weeks becuz he's traveling, and some outsiders like LeoXiao... and it seems Pen3 uses TS3 (which I apparently don't think TS is a good VOIP). I do think the best VOIP is C3, which is in my sig. and its free, you can chat or talk, phone call ppl within the US, create multiple chatrooms for different games, also join as many chatrooms as you want, on top of that you can mute anyone you want or mute the whole chatroom, and still be able to hear another chatroom your in. note: its best if you have a headset for VOIP, preferably noice cancelling headset. i'll post a utube video when i find it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2M5zl4o1lw [extra info] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S_w1dS9SAI [recommended watching] yeah I already have a channel for MUP clan, so if you eventually install C3, PM me your username so I can invite and add you to the channel I have.
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2013-03-24, 13:05 | Link #4313 |
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: In A Certain Magical Place.
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All i remember was you didn't kill anyone that round prolly becuz ur too passive. I forgot if our plat wiped or we capped... either way i don't remembersince it was awhile ago.
Have wil or ute explain it since they were there wit me. Anyways i still can't believe actually beat everyone to tier X. I'm stunned by surprise. I would have expected Ascaloth, Wil, or kimi to hit Tier X first. anyways I've added ES to the MUP channel. but he hasn't even logged in yet.
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2013-03-24, 14:03 | Link #4316 |
Imagine Breaker
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: In A Certain Magical Place.
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ya damn unicum player.
how they hell do u have a better WN7 than me, and I have 53+% win rate, thats why i don't understand WN7. I don't get this: Spoiler for WN7:
someone translate this in leymans terms.
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2013-03-24, 14:28 | Link #4319 |
Nyaaan~~
Join Date: Feb 2006
Age: 40
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Okay. Math!
WN7 formula: (1240-1040/(MIN(TIER,6))^0.164)*FRAGS - Kill multiplier, kills above tier 6 are counted the same as at tier 6, discount to kills for tiers 5 and lower +DAMAGE*530/(184*e^(0.24*TIER)+130) - Damage at higher tiers is worth more plus you tend to do more damage at higher tiers, so more high tiers the better. +SPOT*125*MIN(TIER, 3)/3 - Spotting damage, discount for spotted damage below tier 3 +MIN(DEF,2.2)*100 - Defense? Formula looks odd, seems like it'll always only give you 220? +((185/(0.17+e^((WINRATE-35)*-0.134)))-500)*0.45 - Win Rate above 35% plays a big part in the WN7 calculation as you can see -[(5 - MIN(TIER,5))*125] / [1 + EXP( ( TIER - (GAMESPLAYED/220)^(3/TIER) )*1.5 )] - Penalty for playing more games below tier 5 Edited by Praetor77, Feb 26 2013 - 22:59.[/SPOILER]
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2013-03-24, 14:36 | Link #4320 |
Imagine Breaker
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: In A Certain Magical Place.
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yeah i'm not good with math anymore, even tho i'm asian and should be good with math, I almost fail intro to calculus in college, just becuz i haven't taken math in 2 years since my last real math course. that being said, anyone want to translate it... I have no idea where to begin to plug in for the word values, if i don't know what it means. its like trying to solve an algebra problem witout the proper formula to solve it.
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