Needless

[Homura7]

Ha! Now that's interesting.

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For one thing it seems I was right Arca knew which was Yamada's fragment. And since she said "the right and the left hand of God", I suspect Yamada's left hand is for defensive and his right for ofensive, so he hasn't fully unleashed his fragment yet. These are my thoughts.

[DarkSkiper]

Originally Posted by Randrak42

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You guys are so...how could you forget?

Cruz's fragment is the Aegis shield, the immovable object if you will.
The unstoppable force would be Chuck Norris' roundhouse kick.

Am I the only person here with a little bit a general knowledge!?

You don't know the difference between "ultimate weapon" and "end of the world"?

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Hm you know if Yamada trains up himself to have great Hand-to-Hand combat he could own pretty much everyone, because he can stop anyone who tries to attack him and proceed to kick their ass, and if he has a strong partner he could nullify the enemies attacks while the partner nullifies their lives.
What I want to say is Yamada already possesses a dreadful ability, since from the looks of it he doesn't need to touch the attack just point his hand on it.

[Soji]

I dont think to mention the longinus and the other one you guys say. they are all good choice.
DarkSkiper @

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You're right. But Athena seem to fit better yamada . If the author use her a example to made yamada power. at least that you don't think ,that if he can change mode he change behavior as well.

Originally Posted by Kurusu-Shirudo

Ha! Now that's interesting.

Spoiler for 102:

For one thing it seems I was right Arca knew which was Yamada's fragment. And since she said "the right and the left hand of God", I suspect Yamada's left hand is for defensive and his right for ofensive, so he hasn't fully unleashed his fragment yet. These are my thoughts.

I think the same. I just

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get the feeling that there is something more than this.

Originally Posted by DarkSkiper

You don't know the difference between "ultimate weapon" and "end of the world"?

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Hm you know if Yamada trains up himself to have great Hand-to-Hand combat he could own pretty much everyone, because he can stop anyone who tries to attack him and proceed to kick their ass, and if he has a strong partner he could nullify the enemies attacks while the partner nullifies their lives.
What I want to say is Yamada already possesses a dreadful ability, since from the looks of it he doesn't need to touch the attack just point his hand on it.

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That's true. With the Aegis shield he is already pretty good. If he had time to train himself and even find a good patner then he will become pretty dangerous. Then again just try to imagine blade or eve or both with yamada that do the shield role I wonder if AA can stop Blade + Yamada combo.Or if the PGS become his ally(i mean yamada). With Sestuana speed + Mio power+ Kushinasi fragrance + Yamda Aegis shield. Wow now that i start to think even more a this power yamada have the most hax power in the end(at least from what we know). Also seem that in some extend the power protect him by himself.

[Homura7]

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Blade intercepts a blast from one of the Arca loli clones and gets his hand defleshed, Yamada does the same and comes of it pretty much unscathed.

Just wait till he learns to use the right hand and you'll have the ultimate needless the world has ever seen.

[Soji]

Kurusu-Shirudo@

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Maybe I'm wrong here. But again i use the right hand if i recall right. So there is something wrong here. wonder if is author mistake or something else. BUt yeah. if one hand can do this when he learn the other one(if Arca tell the true and we understand right). then....o boyXD

[Homura7]

Call me Kurusu, Soji, or you'll hurt your fingers typying so many letters XD

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He uses the left all the time, and of course, since he used it the first time too, it wasn't by chance.

[Soji]

Kurusu @

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It's true that he use his aegis shield that we think is the left hand. But again Arca he point out toward her his right hand.(then again the left was hide ,but from the position the left was point out toward her as well.). here the pict, I just check this out to be sure.

That's from the ch itself.

[Homura7]

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Oh, I forgot that.

In that case, was Arca implying Yamada was the left hand and that the right hand is someone else?

A strong weapon. Wait a second, wouldn't that be Eve? Since hers is pretty much the strongest weapon in the series.

[Randrak42]

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Couldn't Arca have simply stopped? That she didn't want to kill him?
It could also be one of those things where the author hadn't thought that far ahead...

[Soji]

Kurusu @ Well.......

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I can think only two candidates . One is Eve like you say. The other one is AnN that would explain their link and why their aura seem to be similar. But this would go again you other theory though. Still if yamada that is the stronger shield go in combo with the stronger weapon then.....run for you're life. because i don't think there is some one that can stop a combo like this . At least not easily.

Randrak42@ No. She want to kill him for real that time.

[Homura7]

Originally Posted by Randrak42

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Couldn't Arca have simply stopped? That she didn't want to kill him?
It could also be one of those things where the author hadn't thought that far ahead...

Sorry but no, the author knew what he was doing... because he already knows pretty much what's going to happen in the following 100 chapters. If you want more details go to his official website.

At that time Arca went with all the intention to kill Yamada, she wasn't faking anything, just like when she chopped his arm off.

@Soji

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A shield that can nullify even the strongest flames, just how awesome is that.

[Xiammes]

The strongest attack so far has been Satens fifth wave.

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It still doesn't make much sense, I don't believe its entirely its his hand direction. He took Arclights Agniscwattas while his hands were pinned down. A non direct attack from Arca burned the flesh off of Blade arms, and he had the flame fragment + his natural resistance to heat.

[Homura7]

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Yep. From the looks of it it's not just the hand, it's the whole body. Yamada himself is a shield capable to parry any powerful attack.

Give him a strong weapon or something and he's pretty much invincible.

[thor94]

Ynot (or other), can you send a link for chapter in PM?
thks

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Cruz fragment is only power nullifier (defensive) or his fragment can have other hide offensive functions?
Because this power couldn't protect him against CQC attacks and many times, cruz almost died without the opponent using his power (punch, sword, monsters, etc were sufficient)

Edit: I noticed, that in lot of power/magic manga , when a main character have no (or weak) power, he gain a power nullifier (aru majutsu no index, law of ueki, gakuen alice,...)

[Ynot]

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I thought it was pretty interesting to see Blade use the fourth wave. He tried using it before in the third shelter but failed back then. He could use it in memory world but back then he also still had his stigmata.

I'm starting to wonder whether this story will ever cut back to the Seto&Solva thread or whether that part will end up being skipped and where we'll just get to see the conclusion interwoven within the current thread.



I've pm'd the raw to a couple of people. They in turn can send it to others again.

[Xiammes]

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Yep. From the looks of it it's not just the hand, it's the whole body. Yamada himself is a shield capable to parry any powerful attack.

Give him a strong weapon or something and he's pretty much invincible.

Then that removes the theory that he is the left or right hand.

Maybe his first name is a hint to figuring out what else it does, Cruz does mean Cross.

I'd like to get one of those raws

[Ynot]

Originally Posted by Kurusu-Shirudo

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Yep. From the looks of it it's not just the hand, it's the whole body. Yamada himself is a shield capable to parry any powerful attack.

Give him a strong weapon or something and he's pretty much invincible.

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No, Aegis doesn't extend to Yamada's entire body. His side is hurt while using his Aegis shield during the fight. It's nothing serious but is enough to prove it's not a blanket like power which covers his entire body.

[Homura7]

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Still, that doesn't explain the eye color change.

And again, just what the hell Arca meant with her last words. I don't believe she was referring to Saten & Uten, but she clearly knew something.

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Originally Posted by Ynot

No, Aegis doesn't extend to Yamada's entire body. His side is hurt while using his Aegis shield during the fight. It's nothing serious but is enough to prove it's not a blanket like power which covers his entire body.

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Then it's the arms?

[Xiammes]

Originally Posted by Kurusu-Shirudo

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Still, that doesn't explain the eye color change.

And again, just what the hell Arca meant with her last words. I don't believe she was referring to Saten & Uten, but she clearly knew something.

[SPOILER]

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Then it's the arms?

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No Cruz was hit on his stomach by agniscwattas, something else is going on. Also nulfication wouldn't stop Arca from attack.

She could have been talking about Saten, they all seem pretty close

[Homura7]

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He was hit in the stomach and suffered a mere flesh wound while Blade's entire hand got melted down.

Don't think it's just a shield. There's no fragment that has just one single use.