2010-11-07, 23:10 | Link #18121 | |
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I checked the first volume, and Tsukune has always been slightly taller than Moka, it just seems more apparent in recent chapters, especially this one. Just goes to show that he's had a recent growth spurt.
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2010-11-08, 00:20 | Link #18123 | |
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2010-11-08, 01:13 | Link #18124 |
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There may be another possibility...
And though it's pretty cliche sounding, and the anime already tried it.... there still is a possible separation of Moka. But it may not come in the form one would think. Imagine, Fuhai fixes the seal, but there is a tweak to it that would modify the seal slightly. This tweek would still seal Moka back into her dormant state, but at the same time allow her to step forth... and would work on Moka in both her sealed and unsealed states... It would allow both of her to remain conscious... and she would be allowed to communicate at any time with the outside world... Spoiler for example:
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2010-11-08, 02:20 | Link #18125 |
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I agree that ... something like that might be possible as well ... though I have some reservations ... about this.
First of all ... something like that would seriously reduce the role that Tsukune has in the future chapter's ... unless he would take a more combat oriented role as Inner Moka's support partner ... though, for now, at least ... Tsukune's combat experience and his current level of control over his vampire power's ... are a little too low for him to take that role yet (truthfully the same issue is also present when both Inner and Outer Moka would merge with each other) The second problem that I see with that issue ... is that Tsukune would still be left with the issue of "satisfying" the needs of two women at the same time ... and both of them are pretty important to Tsukune, so he would have been still torn between the issue of who's more important to him ... Outer or Inner Moka, which would probably lead to Tsukune trying to keep both sides of Moka happy ... and satisfied with him ... at the cost of Tsukune's own happiness, since he would be still torn about which side of Moka he likes more ... ... and finally you're theory GrrDraxin ... doesn't solve the issue that Moka's seal isn't a permanent one, which probably isn't something that can be tweaked by Tohou Fuhai, since I believe that every type of an sealing item ... like for example Moka's Rosario or Tsukune's Holy Lock ... has this particular issue... built within it... and I haven't found an solution to this particular problem ... other then repairing Moka's Rosario when it weakens ... or duplicating Moka's Rosario itself ... which sounds to be a quite hard task, since Moka's seal is pretty complicated seal ... and we don't if it's possible for Tohou Fuhai to replicate it .. with the same properties that Moka's "original" seal has... So, summarizing, while you're theory is pretty interesting GrrDraxin, in my opinion it only postpones the issue to some pretty distant future ... that the manga will probably not even cover ... and at the same time... would cause this particular problem, to be a much bigger issue, then it currently is,... at least from a psychological point of view... |
2010-11-08, 07:36 | Link #18127 |
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I just had a thought, if Akuha and Moka meet, Moka's resulting anger could unleash her full Shinso power like last time, and Tsukune be taking Alucard's place, simply put, his Shinso blood will be the one to awaken, since both their Shinso blood would be synchronized, anyway.
Tsukune being a bat in a cage waiting to be set free, and only Moka has the key. Kind of like history repeating itself, but only this time, it will be for good, not bad.
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2010-11-08, 10:20 | Link #18128 |
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Iam just glad the Tsukune x Moka art wasn't like "THAT" vamp movie.
Also anyone noticed since chapter 23 after the Siren arc it's been an all out Moka artwork. Ura Moks, Omote and Ura and the latest Tsukune x Moka.
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2010-11-08, 14:22 | Link #18129 | |
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After all ... Tsukune still can't take control over his "berserk side" or ... even keep his berserk side at bay ... and before Ikeda somehow ... indicates that it's possible for Tsukune to do that ... I don't see the possibility of Tsukune's Shinso blood awakening... I mean that ... from a general view, Shinso vampires ... are basically an enhanced version of ordinary vampires ... and in Tsukune's case ... he's already having some problems ... with taking control of the power's that ordinary vampires posses ... and, in my opinion, it wouldn't make sense to proceed to more advanced and difficult stuff (the power's of a Shinso vampire) ... when the basic stuff (the power's of an ordinary vampire) is still, causing problems for you... |
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2010-11-08, 19:30 | Link #18131 | |
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2010-11-08, 19:36 | Link #18132 | |
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Perhaps, Ikeda is pushing back Tsukune's Shinso transformation, probably for the purpose of creating a character design for Tsukune's physical Vamp/Shinso form, for the series, probably to hold off Akuha's and Moka's reunion, only Touhou Fuhai stands between Akuha and Moka, but we already know who the winner is, anyway, unless Moka wakes up and comes to them during the fight, or unless they do fight, but its still undecided. While, some of us believe its to early for Tsukune's Shinso blood to awaken, this might also be the perfect time for that, but its all up to Ikeda.
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2010-11-09, 00:04 | Link #18133 |
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Well, based on what happens in the recent chapter's, for now I don't think that the Akua and Moka fight is going to happen in the current arc...
Well... the fact is ... that we still don't have any idea how Tsukune's body and mentality is going to be, after his Shinso blood awakens, since... despite the growth that Tsukune has made in taking control over his power's... he still depends on the Holy Lock... and we haven't got any idea if the current Tsukune is going to be able to keep his sanity, if he removes the Holy Lock... I mean... for now we still don't have any idea about how far Tsukune's development of his vampire abilities has progressed, since his training sessions with Inner Moka are still undergoing... and apart from Sun's arc (which happened some time ago - at least in the R+V timeline, we haven't seen much about Tsukune's progress... So what I want to say is that... we should see some results (onscreen) of alll the training that Tsukune underwent so far... After all... it would fell really strange... if Tsukune was suddenly capable of keeping his sanity without the Holy Lock... which is what would... probably happen if Tsukune's Shinso blood awakened... What I want to say is that Tsukune should undergo (onscreen) some character development, related to his vampire abilities, that would cause his Shinso blood awakening and Tsukune being able to stay sane.(without the Holy Lock), to make sense from a reader's point of view (who don't discuss this particular topic as much as we do, so his understanding of Tsukune's "transformation"... might be a little lower then ours)... and not fell as something that was pulled out of nowhere... ... and, so far... I haven't seen in the manga (well, maybe I overlooked something about this...) any kind of development, related to Tsukune's vampire power's... that would cause his Shinso blood's awakening... to make some sense... At least that's my opinion on this particular matter... when it comes to the topic of Tsukune ... since there is another problem related to Tsukune's and Moka's Shinso blood awakening, which would be Outer Moka, who would disappear if Moka's seal isn't present on her body... After all... Akasha made the Rosario to seal Moka's Shinso power's... which means that Moka's seal would have to be permanently removed or broken, for Moka's Shinso blood to awaken... And that leads us to the fact that the problem of Outer Moka would need to be somehow resolved before Moka's Shinso blood could awaken... Simply saying, both Moka and Tsukune need a lot of character development before their Shinso blood could awaken, which means ... that if the Shinso blood awakening is supposed to happen in the current arc... it would have to increase the length of the current arc ... again, since Tsukune would have to undergo some developments related to his vampire power's ... while Moka would have to undergo some some development related to Outer Moka, which.. frankly speaking would turn this arc even more absurd then it currently is, since things like that, aren't... usually done when there is a battle with a pretty powerful opponent... raging around you... Last edited by Chris38; 2010-11-09 at 00:21. |
2010-11-09, 18:03 | Link #18136 | |
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2010-11-09, 18:05 | Link #18137 | |
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R+V seems to be handling it better than most, but still, I hate having to wait a year for one scene or fight to finish. It's why I stopped reading FMA until it was finally completed. Awesome series, yes, but I didn't like reading it monthly.
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2010-11-09, 18:15 | Link #18138 |
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i was really just trying to be funny, I would much rather read monthly's that weekly's but that is perhaps that the monthly's I read are geared towards older readers and that appeals to me. I would much rather read tank's or volumes anyway in either case because the story flows better.
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2010-11-09, 20:15 | Link #18139 |
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Y'see, that's the biggest problem of being a series follower- the wait between chapters, monthly or weekly, tends to kill. If we were to wait for the full volumes that contain this arc to come out, I'm sure that we'd burn right through em, and there'd be lack of complaints... hell, a series I'm currently reading I'm grateful is finished, because a single round of a tournament took over 12 chapters to complete... that's over three months of waiting for a single step in a tournament to complete itself
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