2011-01-31, 10:42 | Link #382 |
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Tabane will just give Chifuyu or any girl she wants the ultimate IS and ask her to kill all those extremist :P. It's not possible not to give the women access since well, unlike real life, these IS doesn't come from years of research from a large group of scientist and engineers. Instead, it comes from the mind of one young genius girl who basically can control which one she want to give the IS for(Tabane can basically make an army of thousands of 4th gen IS if she want currently while all the other country is stuck on 3rd gen, unless there's a development in later volume that explains why Tabane only create a set number of IS).
Well, like I said, IS is like a super robot. If you can make something that strong, why don't those professor in super robot series didn't take over the world themselves :P. Don't try to read too much into it, and enjoy the setting that lead our protagonist to get his harem. |
2011-01-31, 11:04 | Link #383 | |
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Yet there is always the chance that they may steal a few cores here and there. XD About female domination in IS society, I think someone said that it has only ocurred on the low and middle class, since high class and politics is still male dominated. Also, lets be realistic in a fantasy world. XD After IS was introduced, female and males goals in life changed drastically. Females can now become strategic and/or tactical weapons, and basically become a national treasure. Since an ace IS pilot can come from any levels of society (Cecilia is a noble, Charlotte an illegitimate daughter and lower class, Rin and Houki are middle class), government needs to grab all girls and increase their educational level so they can understand advance technology and engineering at high school. Even if they donīt qualify as IS pilots, they will most likely graduate from college (lets say 80%) and find a good $500k/year job. Meanwhile, boys get stuck with the usual school stuff (Ichika couldnīt understand all the theory and technicality about the IS, while all the girls got it the first time).So lets say the graduation rate and high revenue job rate keeps the same (40%). Suddenly, you got the Japan/Europe sindrome!!!!! As you said, survival of the fittest and strongest!!! Women will mate with a male stronger than her.....yet since the women have become soo "strong" in modern life, there are few man that can actually meet the female standards!!! Also, the few families that do get married want to get daugthers so they may have a better chance at the future, rather than boys that WILL have a hard life. And thatīs the recipe to get a world dominated by women. XD Of course, full domination wonīt be fast, perphaps a generation or two; but it will change quickly the middle/low class. BTW, I am really surprise too that there is no "Kill Ichika" massive movement. I understand Phantom Task just want his IS, but the boy holds the key for male reconquest of world domination!!! There must be a lesbian or feminist group out there that want to kill him before he spread his seeds. |
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2011-01-31, 14:39 | Link #384 |
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They definitely are think, there is already a couple of successful test tube baby projects out right now. But given how Scholl is a confirmed lesbian (She has an intimate relationship with Autumn) the notion of a Feminist Terror group is very likely.
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2011-01-31, 19:50 | Link #385 | ||
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Even something as simple as electric bills can give her away. Or you know, omnious glowing lights coming from all direction... Quote:
Just because you're an aerospace engineer, doesn't make you a Pilot. Same deal, just because you created super robots, doesn't make you a Ace pilot material. Hey they started it first with the women threatening to take over the world discussion I'm just saying... >.>
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2011-01-31, 19:51 | Link #386 | |
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And originally, I only wanted to post my original argument to get it out of my mind, but after seeing that Obama panel in the IS manga basically shoving IS balance responsibility onto Japan, that triggered another argument in my head. There's just no way US would do something like that; in contrary US would easily become the biggest sponsor of IS research due to its obession in protecting its national interests and security. There's just so many military applications of IS, even if the IS mecha itself is off-limits to military (barrier, personal propulsion, improved beam/laser technology, exo-suits, and many more). Plus Japan and US are already major allies so all more the easier for US to invest into IS research. China likely would be second to US in its pursing of interests in IS technology, whether by investing into research or stealing IS secrects, Japan probably would feel nervous about China's interest in its IS technology (they've always had strained relations, yet they're dependent on each other for commerce and exports/imports). China being on side of NK isn't likely going to help either. But they'll be more than eager to dump billions of dollars worth of funding into the research. Spoiler for About a certain IS from episode 4...:
Same would go for UK, France, Germany, Russia, Israel, South Korea, and many more nations; Japan's going to have a large amount of willing investors into the IS research. Even if military research is banned or prohibited (or on the opposite side, being widely shared due to MAD agreement), there's still plently of civillian applications of IS technology. NASA would be first in a long line of such agencies willing to pour billions of dollars into the research, since it would make space travel much more practical (no more cumbersome space suits, as well as more effecient protection from harsh elements of space), as well as aerospace industry (better flight capabilities if they could somehow harness the flight capability of IS for their aircrafts), and so on. Even if IS technology has to be moderated in a way to ensure that no nation would have overwhelming advantage, there simply won't be a lack of funding available for IS research. Sorry for rambling here, but sometimes I over-analyze elements from anime that I happen to be enjoying at the moment. If they had simply made IS an AU as opposed to "near-future" story (like how Code Geass dealt with any real-world contradictions by going the AU route ), I'm sure I wouldn't be dwelling so much on fine details. |
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2011-01-31, 21:24 | Link #387 | |
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2011-01-31, 21:57 | Link #389 | |
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uhhhh, she created a 4th generation IS for houki in her secret lab without anyone finding out where she's at you know? And her secret lab is a portable lab that has an IS like appearance. Heck, if she wants I'm sure she can make an unmanned IS with 4th generation technology. So your assumption that she needs a government backing is obsolete(maybe she steals scrap metals to make those IS :P). Basically, she is right now like those super robot professor that doesn't need any government backing to make any super powered mecha weaponry. For my super robot comment, imagine you're making Ideon or other super robot that can destroy universe with one move. Do you really think you need an ace pilot to do it instead of just knowing how to trigger the move that destroy the universe? or instead, the professor can just make an AI to man the super robot. Their power is sometimes too out of the world, and if the professors are that clever, I'm pretty sure making an AI that can control those robot will be a piece of cake For the Obama comment, there's no such thing mentioned in the novel, I'm sure it's just a personal view of the manga artist I think so take it with a grain of salt ^^. |
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2011-01-31, 22:28 | Link #390 | |||
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Actually, the invention of the IS has around 10 years from the creation of the White Knight, the first IS, until Ichika gets the Byakku Shiki. And try to think about changes in todayīs world and not in 20 century!!!! Cell Phones have barely 10-15 years, flash drives 10 years, Facebook only 8. Changes today can happen quite fast now that the world is connected together. I think 10-20 years are more than enough time to change today`s world. Quote:
The US does make IS R&D, and they did built the Silver Gospel, a powerful 3.5 Generation IS. The Alaska Treaty doesnīt forbid IS development, it makes IS more of a Strategic weapon (like a nuke) than a tactical weapon (F-22). M ilitary IS development isnīt forbidden and it is actually quite a big thing. Poor Charlotte was forced to crossdress and spy on Ichika to get Byakku Shiki (4th Generation IS) since France was barelly able to make their first 3rd Generation IS. Also why would Japan have to make an alliance with the US for IS development when Japan has Tabane, the IS creator and best IS engineer!!!! The US was the one that actually had to force Japan to open a bit to get IS intel. And even if Japan had to built the IS academy and cover all the expenses, they have Tabane for R&D, Maya and Chifuyu as IS army reserve, the first 2 4th Gen IS (byakku and Tsubasa), and the only male IS pilot!!! It ainīt a bad deal. Quote:
Japan has enough resource and technoly to develop advance IS for themselves. Same for the US, Russia, and China. Europe+England actually had to gather together to finance their IS program, except for France that went solo and now they are having troubles in developing a 3rd gen IS. [/QUOTE] Sorry for rambling here, but sometimes I over-analyze elements from anime that I happen to be enjoying at the moment. If they had simply made IS an AU as opposed to "near-future" story (like how Code Geass dealt with any real-world contradictions by going the AU route ), I'm sure I wouldn't be dwelling so much on fine details. [/QUOTE] It is ok, it does happen. XD Ahh Code geass!!! great anime!!! Eventhough Code Geass went AU quite far back....supposely when the Britains defeated Julius Cesar, yet he brought a "strange power" that allow him to secure power until his death by natural disease. And thatīs not even including how Louis XIV and his Invincible Armada did defeat Brittania and forced Queen Elizabeth to flee to America and rebuild her empire there (and kill dumb Washington for trying to rebel). |
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2011-02-01, 00:10 | Link #391 | ||
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You still gonna need a ton of power source to back everything up. Also, certain things like purchasing mini fusion reactors or an illegal tab into a hydro power station might set off warning flags... I should know >.> Even that portable lab has to come from somewhere, and when it comes from somewhere, that means it can be traced, which leads to people eventually asking questions like "Why does this girl need a built in furnace, heavy machinery, micro components manufactoring capabilities, specialized tools, and enough computer processing power to predict the winning lottery ticket, all in this little portable lab that she could take with her anywhere? I wonder if she's up to something...?" Heh, I'm just saying there should be enough hints to prepare anyone that maybe something is up... That's all... So my counter to crazy women taking over the world and to maintain the superiority of men- Just grab all the toys don't let them near it until they play nice Let The girls do all the hardwork and the guys kick back and sigh paperwork No need to change the social dynamics over a little something like that... Quote:
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2011-02-01, 07:55 | Link #392 | |
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Personally, I really think this Tabane girl is even more crazy than those super robot professor. She create IS during her third grade on high school while wearing bunny ears, unlike those professor who turns fat from all the stress making a giant robot XD. Unless they will explain later how she does what she does, or explain what she is actually, she's kind of god-like in the IS world right now XD. About the super robot comparison, yea, I was thinking about AI since we know only hot-blooded hero can pilot super robot well, not some fat mad scientist able to create a giant robot without military backing :P |
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2011-02-01, 15:36 | Link #393 |
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Looks like someone of good faith will do a teaser of the light novel on Baka-Tsuki.
Teaser page: http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...finite_Stratos Forum page (the translations are still here): http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/vie...=3518&start=15 |
2011-02-01, 20:15 | Link #395 |
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^that would lead to epic yuri scenes and no kids...
also he'd hafta fight female toms... also, im noticing ichika is an all rounder when it comes to combat, if not for the energy blade thats his main weapon that is like excalibur...
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2011-02-02, 00:02 | Link #398 | |
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Just kidding. Figuratively speaking she's still single because of ichika. Her brother's life has been threatened before, i don't think she'll want to marry (considering this is the world of IS and we already saw cecilia's general outlook on men, now with ichika as an exception) especially if it means leaving ichika more open to danger.
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2011-02-02, 01:27 | Link #399 | |
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Sorry if I misunderstood. When you said figuratively I thought you meant that Chifuyu was married and she comes back home from time to time looking after her bro. |
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2011-02-02, 05:59 | Link #400 | |
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Or I guess it's best to admit I had a poor choice of words while typing that on the phone.
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