Fate/stay night Final Thoughts & Overall Impressions

[saner]

Does it mean that Shirou had sex with Saber in the shed in the forest? When did they had again?

[Hemisphere]

Originally Posted by saner

Ending was good. Shirou has got clear purpose - he just want to be with Saber. Unluckily Rin and Sakura love Shirou who won't quit looking for Saber.

Edit:

Spoiler for anime/game:

Talking about 2nd season is fruitless, as you know if you'd played Fate computer games, Archer is Shirou in the future, so there won't be happy end with Saber,Rin or Sakura. Basically, if they'd destroyed Holy Grail why would Archer/Shirou have appeared? He had to make a pact with Holy Grail to show there, so Holy Grail still exists in the future. Therefore, destroying Holy Grail was meaningless, it didn't change anything, it would be better if Saber'd drunk from Holy Grail, Shirou and Saber would be happy, maybe Shirou wouldn't be hero. To my mind, the plot is weak, btw, why did Archer lose? He was future Shirou, he had countless Noble Phantom. He was great magician. I don't get it either.

I'm very happy that I watched Fate, because I've met the most charming anime female character - Saber, but there are things don't suit each other.
I've watched Berserk, the story was quite similar.

Game, in UBW and HF, Shirou had sex with Rin (once) and Sakura (many times), why did he just once kissed Sabre?

And as I pray...unlimited riposte works!

Counter spoiler!

Spoiler:

Saber drinking the taint of the grail means that she loses her ego, but receives a cursed flesh in return. Normal/ordinary Eireis will lose their ego/mind when exposed to the Grail's taint; only Gilgamesh managed to witstand the taint because, as said in the game/anime, he has been bearing the world's burden for the longest time (symbolised by his possession of Ea, as the truths beyond what the human mind can perceive). That and, his soul is three times greater than any other Eireis.

As mentioned before, Eireis are summoned outside of time. The Grail system is not bound by a linear time system: it even transcends parallel worlds, seeing as Eirei Emiya (known simply as Archer) is from a different timeline/world.

Archer had his ass kicked by Saber before. He wasn't completely recovered from his wounds. To top it off, recalled his memories only at the last moment. Not to mention his mana supply was dwindling due to the fact that his Master, his mana source, was running away. If Rin stayed behind, Archer might have kicked Berserker's ass several times, but not enough.

Eirei Emiya wasn't a great magician. He didn't have control over his abilities. He was only able to unleash his UBW, and his extensive use of tracing abilities allowed him to hone that particular skill perfectly, as well as the weapons that he used through that skill (Rho Aias, Caladbolg II, Hrunting, and especially Kanshou and Bakuya). Especially Broken Phantasm - that skill is a bitch when used (kills a regular Servant with just ONE Caladbolg II shot, yippeh). A great magician would be someone of Rin's caliber, who is able to use thaumaturgy, reinfore her body's physical abilities, create magical barriers to ward off outsiders, etc.

It is actually implied that Archer still has Avalon within him. Eirei Emiya didn't know about the sheath within him that let him live through so many dangers.

Shirou isn't seeking out Saber throughout his life. That betrays his ideals. To people like Shirou and Saber, concepts and ideals are more important.

A STR level of D means strength equal to 20 people. Just an extra information.

[kamikazex]

thats pretty long

[KaneDragon]

I'm just sad that Archer was wasted in the anime. You can play the game over to get the extra story about Archer, but there's only one anime series... ;_;

Spoiler for game, UBW, etc:

I mean, come on! Shirou becomes a hero and travels back in time to create a time paradox! @_@ That's pretty important. A little more focus on what Shirou's talent is and how it operates would have been nice. It's bitter that Archer-Shirou gambled his afterlife on traveling back in time to kill Shirou before Shirou experienced the pain of losing his ideals, only to be summoned without the memories he needs to fulfill his wish. Reinforcing the Fate theme that the past can't be changed, I guess. But doesn't this mean that Shirou won't be redeemed, and will end up repeating the fall of Archer-Shirou? Does Shirou still think he can save everyone and be a true protector of "justice"? Though Archer-Shirou's past is supposed to be different from Shirou's anyway, so... I'm confused.

I want characters to be able to redeem themselves, not doomed to a particular fate. But I guess that's just the price to pay to look that cool. The other Servants got nothin on Archer. =D

[anim4niac]

there wont be a 2nd series but ima still hoping theres an ova or 2 (to at least explain events without us needing to link it to the game)

[Choki]

I think i would prefer they would leave the anime as it is....argh my heart....this kind of endings really make me wanna cry =(

[SCKnight]

I liked the anime, but they could have made the ending better (some of us Americans just like happy endings ):

Spoiler:

At the end, Saber realizes that the reason she made it this far was not because of her skills, but because of Shirou's love for her. She comes to realize that she loves him, too. She choses to stay with him instead of returning to her time.

That's what I think should have happened.

They also should have had the Black Knight and Red Knight as enemies in the anime! Those two, along with the Green Knight, were extremely hard to beat in Legion: Legend of Excalibur (Yes, I've been playing that game too much!) I wonder why they weren't in the anime?

[jtrog]

After a time to think about it:

I do not think there will ever be another show as good as it is unless Type-moon does another like it. I give it the Best anime show of 2006 vote.

The loss of air at the end of a ep., almost loss of sleep waiting to see the next ep., it was never ending.

Now it has the Opening songs and Ending songs to go with it. the Op1 and ED1 were the best in my thoughts. I believe that music was the Icing on the cake to make it a perfect 'THRILLING" show. It still some of the best music/VOICES I have ever heard with out even understanding what they say it was beautiful to the point of tears. (joyful happiness).

I knew nothing of the manga or 'game' info, just as it was and then what was on forums here and still didnt make it any less exciting.

[Duralath]

Wow...simply wow.

I've been lurking these forums for quite a while and only now have decided to post.

Well, basically, I began watching Fate/stay night at the request of my two friends. Ever since the first couple of episodes, I've been hooked on all the action and the storylines, so much that I dove into the backstory of how everything went and into the backstory...trying to find every little detail.

I don't recall having been addicted to an anime ever like I have been with Fate/stay night. Heck, I loved it so much that I went to Anime Expo '06 as Archer (and my now-ex-girlfriend went with me as Rin).

Admittedly, I did find backstory a bit lacking in the overall anime, but nonetheless, that only prompted me to search for it myself. The music was beautiful, of course. And I liked the fight scenes.

Right now, FSN's my anime of choice.

[Spudawg]

I will say one thing: This anime is my absolute favourite. Granted, I havent watched a TON of anime, but as much as I have watched until now, this takes the cake.
I know nothing of the game, in fact a friend of mine informed me of it, I thought that this was just an original anime, which, i guess it is, but is based off a game (am i even right?)
From start to finish this anime had me, I LOVED the animation, action, storyline, everything was just top-notch. Everything on my comp is now fate/stay night, wallpaper, screensaver, its great. I just wish i wasn't so damn short Would have loved to have seen it go on and on, but i guess that just didnt happen. I didn't think an anime being over could make me feel like this, (i know, i know, this is boarder line cheesy) but its true. I just loved watching it so much. I can't get that last scene of saber under the tree saying "My slumber this time...might be...a bit long..." then closes her eyes. /sob
The characters were fantastic as well, <3 saber so much, by far my favourite female character of ANY anime, And the awkward relationship she had with shirou, which, of course in the end, made me almost cry -_- so sad.
But anyway, that is how i feel about it, I would love to see a second season, but i dont really know how that would start...


(on a complete side note, being somewhat new to anime, what does OVA and all those other abbreveations mean? I have no idea, if someone could fill me in, that would be fantastic, thanks!)

[Esayah]

Hullo,

new guy here just finished the FSN series!

The anime was decent, nothing mind blowing or anything, but definitely a solid watch. What makes this anime really shine, however, is the reverse role relationship between Shiro and Saber. Those two gave major points to the anime and were basically the only reason I kept pushing the anime (even after ep. 14, where everything starts to be bleh!).
I usually don't obsess over animes like this, but Saber has got me on a fever! The whole "I can't be with you even if I want to" thing really turned me into a fanatic haha.

As for a sequel or whatever, I personally don't think it can or should happen. The anime leaves a lasting impression and they should keep it that way. A side-story or OVA or maybe even a complete revamp (a remade anime with each different storyline?) would work, but definitely not a continuation of the current storyline.

[Masanori Ota]

Originally Posted by Esayah

As for a sequel or whatever, I personally don't think it can or should happen. The anime leaves a lasting impression and they should keep it that way. A side-story or OVA or maybe even a complete revamp (a remade anime with each different storyline?) would work, but definitely not a continuation of the current storyline.

/Agreed, especially on the alternate storyline idea. To my knowledge, few studios have taken a game like F/SN, with its alternate endings, and actually made multiple versions of the same anime. It could be quite interesting to see how that turns out, commercially at the least, creatively at the most. At worst, the fans could hate the new version and ignore it, and the studio would take a financial hit and learn from it. At best, the fans would love it, the studio would make a killing and continue making more, while the other studios would start running around looking for a similar hit. Imitation is the best complement, neh?

[tommyr]

I have never played the game. Honestly watching the anime i thought it was pretty good, one of my favorites. Now that i read the forums and im seeing stuff about how shiro is archer and all these other stories. i REALIZE that i am missing out on ALOT of things. I feel cheated. So atm there is no OVA in the works?

I just finished watching the last episode today, im pretty behind i know =P. I wish saber stayed with shiro. i had to say it. thankyou.

[mlai]

I don't think *more* heroes from Arthurian legends need to show up in the story. There are plenty of legendary/historical heroes from different sources to draw from, and everyone has his favorites. Personally I'd even want Archer to be a historical hero rather than an adult Shirou; I actually feel the "self vs alternate self" or "evil twin" plot device is overused.

This story can't have a sequel. A major reason it's so beautiful is because it's self-contained. I also love Saber and Shirou most, but it may be because I only know the other 2 scenarios thru game summaries. I also support a rendition of the other 2 scenarios; they'are all different enough that there shouldn't be any scene redundancies.

[AKDieseL]

I must say that I absolutely hate Type moon. I've just seen all of fate/stay night for the first time and I must say that i'm seriously dissapointed.

Type moon first destroyed my life for a good two weeks after I had seen Tsukihime cos I was so depressed and now they've gone and done it again with Fate/Stay Night. All throughout FSN I was like, "They made a sad ending for Tsukihime, surely they wont do the same thing to us again" Making me even less prepared for what was about to happen, I just dont understand why the writers felt the need to have another sad ending.

ARRGGHHH.

[Masanori Ota]

Because sad endings are more memoriable (at the moment) than happy ones.

Although I believe this deluge of unhappy endings will backfire, creating a massive demand for an ending where the characters are genuinely happy. Just my opinion though, most likely wrong.

[AKDieseL]

Maybe so but that still dosent change the fact that I hate Type Moon with a passion :@

[Deathkillz]

well if depressing ending make you unhappy then look for happy ones simple really...type moon loves tragic ends
i dnt mind sad endings as long as its well done...and F/SN is a masterpiece in that aspect

[AKDieseL]

aye forget type moon tbh. Never again will I watch any of their anime

[Masanori Ota]

I should have stopped watching on episode 22. That's the height of the anime, in my opinion. 23 and 24 just bring it down to its knees. I'll watch more TYPE-Moon anime, as long as I know which episode to stop on before it self-implodes.

The secret to pulling yourself out of the depression F/SN attempts to force upon you is watching Black Lagoon, Haruhi, and FMP back to back. Trust me, it works!