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Haruhi's cosmic powers will disobey her only so much as your arm does when he command it to crush an annoying fly zipping around your face. Quote:
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Any apparent limits are Haruhi's own mind controlling it.
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2009-03-25, 21:07 | Link #14222 |
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Haruhi can create a new universe because she is unpleased with her current one. It is assumed that the previous world is destroyed after a time. I'm not sure if this can be confirmed.
She may or may not be able to destroy the IDE, but she can effectively make a new universe in which they do not exist and transfere whom she wants to that universe. This effectively ends up with the same result, IDE out of the picture.
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2009-03-25, 21:15 | Link #14224 | |
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If she wants to hunt for survivors, she must know what are "survivors". Data caches hidden in public servers in the internet? Ordered crystals formations on Orion-1? Narrativium would give her the exact power to know exactly, but narrativium would also give the IDE escape if the story so requires. |
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2009-03-25, 21:22 | Link #14225 |
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Haruhi doesn't have to use a scalpel...she could use a sledgehammer. "There are no aliens in my universe" ~sayeth the lord.....and there were no more aliens....
Scary huh? Since in theory, that is how there are aliens, time travelers and espers (and sliders) in Haruhi's Universe. Sure she made them so they "always existed" (aside from the espers that came about suddenly), but that doesn't means she can't just unwill them to exist.
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If Haruhi becomes aware of her power, then I do hope that the whole subconscious-takes-care-of-the-details part remains, so that all Haruhi has to do is focus on the outcome rather than the process. She is like the computer user running programs without having to bother with how the code and hardware actually function. Last edited by ijuinkun; 2009-03-25 at 21:46. |
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Haruhi has no limit to how far she can escalate. Quote:
Any survial strategy used against Haruhi that doesn't center around keeping her very happy, is essentially based on allot of mythos optimism. "Maybe she won't be able to see us in these buckets..."
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2009-03-25, 22:04 | Link #14228 |
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I take a 2 day hiatus and this thread goes crazy. Nice job... Now I've kinda lost where we are with anything...
A very late, Welcome back Kaisos. And remember, we cannot combine the theories of the three groups, IDE, the Organization and the time travelers. Remember that they come from completely different perspectives. The only thing that is probably for sure is that Haruhi, and by the transitive property, Haruki, is not normal. We cannot say as a fact that the IDE exists outside of time because from their perspective, Haruhi created a data explosion not stopped/recreated time. However, by the espers' theory, the universe, and technically time if the start of the universe is considered the start of time, was created and every memory of before that 3 years ago is a false memory. Therefore, because the IDE cannot create data out of nothing, the IDE did not exist before 3 years back and was created at the 3 year mark. Of course, nothing can be proven because Haruhi, by the time traveler's theory, sealed everything from before 3 years ago. Therefore, we cannot take a single version of the events 3 years ago as truth. tldr, just try not to hapharardly combine these theories. On that note, I don't have anything else to say.
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2009-03-25, 22:33 | Link #14229 |
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Figuring out just what Haruhi can and can't do leads us to what Yuki can and can't do in the 4th volume, and thus leads to what Haruki and Yuuki can do.
Thus gets us to "just how is Book 4 to be genderbent". Since is seems to be the central novel outside of the first book.
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2009-03-25, 23:37 | Link #14230 |
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Perhaps a viewing of Forbidden Planet can give us a hint of what Haruhi can do...
EDIT: Perhaps a viewing of Star Trek The Motion Picture can give us a hint of what the IDE wants... Last edited by CrowKenobi; 2009-03-25 at 23:59. |
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Realistically, the IDE would simply strike Kyon dumb and hijack Haruhi's power first. But they don't, which implies their objective: Evolving themselves by observing Haruhi's evolution; is rather more important than self preservation. I entertain the possibility that they would simply leave the universe if Haruhi stops being a valid observation target. Or being at the apex of their possible existance, simply choose to die. |
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2009-03-26, 01:44 | Link #14232 |
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Making something from nothing also implys that one can make nothing from something. If Haruhi can make data from nothingness, she could just as easily make something into nothingness.
There is nowhere to hide from Haruhi if she wants you to disappear. It isn't a matter of "we can find away around her powers" it is more, she'll erase the universe and make her own that doesn't have you in it anymore. Since when are "god powers" realistic?
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2009-03-26, 03:18 | Link #14234 |
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Ok guys, how about we forget all this crap and get to genderbending again...
For the "Kyon menaces Yuki" scene, how about we use the shoujo manga template of Quiet-Jerk-With-Heart-of-Gold exploding temper type scene. Kyonko bugs Yuuki too much, he pins her to the wall in retaliation, but instantly apologises ("because his temper scares himself" shoujo manga hero style), then retreats back to his seat for quiet reading. This makes Yuuki 2.0 a pastiche of both Mitsuuru, Haruki, and various shoujo manga. |
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