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NoSanninWa · 2009-02-14, 01:21

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NoLongerSane · 2009-02-14, 02:01

Watched the raw

Spoiler for Episode 20:

Peanutbutter · 2009-02-14, 02:15

Spoiler for Ep 20:

serenade_beta · 2009-02-14, 07:52

Spoiler for ep20:

Forever · 2009-02-21, 18:34

Arietta's death is really sad. I am really not used to watch small cute little girls dying... Was it really necessary for the authors to write her death?

darkchibi07 · 2009-02-21, 19:50

How the heck did Sunrise make Arietta's death more depressing than in the game! Poor Arietta!

Shiroth · 2009-02-21, 19:53

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Originally Posted by Forever

Arietta's death is really sad. I am really not used to watch small cute little girls dying... Was it really necessary for the authors to write her death?

Personally i think it was the only way she could have been saved. I mean even if she did survive after losing the fight, it's not like she can just carry on with her life. A shame i know, though i guess it had to happen.

FlareKnight · 2009-02-21, 21:01

I wasn't looking forward to this.

Definitely managed to make her death feel sadder here even though I knew it was coming. Just too bad they couldn't find something for her to keep on going for. Killed the Ligers, killed Ion, and pretty much nothing else she had enough of a connection to. Feel they couldn't save her and thus didn't.

siden87 · 2009-02-22, 08:41

I'm glad that the anime choose the right time show Anise using her artes from the game (Negative Gate and her Mystic Arte Final Fury, although I'm wishing for more) rather than the usual Tokunaga's punches.

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Originally Posted by darkchibi07

How the heck did Sunrise make Arietta's death more depressing than in the game! Poor Arietta!

I agree. Especially with the additional scenes on how she was raised and then picked by Van, then the touching scenes after she was beaten, made it more sad.

Sinestra · 2009-02-23, 09:45

I felt really wrong watching Arietta's death it was really damn sad. At first i thought she was just really hurt then i saw her reaching upwards and seeing the mother liger and Ion and i was like oh shit shes done for. That was the only part besides the pendant Luke found that kept me interested the pendant was a huge hint and its very obvious who it belongs too.

still very very sad to see a loli die like that

I get the feeling majority if not all of the God Generals are going to bite the dust. I can see Tear landing the fatal blow on her teacher the chick with the guns if she didnt die in the avalanche.

Deathkillz · 2009-02-24, 12:29

Oh snap...Arietta!!! ;______;

Why did it happen ;_______;

Some thoughts.

Eisdrache · 2009-03-09, 01:12

So I watched 16-20 this night and I have to say that after those average episodes and lots of Luke annoyance the Arietta vs Anise fight as well as showing Largo being GAR just made up for everything.

I cried when she died ;_;

Red_eyes · 2009-03-12, 19:03

Arietta is the most tragic character in the anime. First, her mother gets killed which is ultimately because Mieu was retarded and set fire to the forest the ligers were living in. That was one of the dumbest reasons ever. Then the person she cares for the most gets killed thanks to Anise. Van, her savior, also appeared to be dead. In the final battle all of her family dies and it wasn't even a fair duel in the first place. Last time I checked, a duel is one on one and her ligers are her tools of fighting. Obviously they are no match for our 'heroes' especially Jade's magic. If Luke etc. could join in, Largo might as well be part of the fight too. By the time she died I just felt like our team of 'heroes' were in fact, the villains. Anise on the other hand, the Judas of the team survived. Oh how I despise Anise and Luke is barely tolerable. Everything really was Anise's fault, yet she never apologizes to Arietta.

FireChick · 2009-04-05, 09:20

I finally saw this episode. I can't believe I didn't cry when Arietta died!

She was one of my favorite characters! Yeah, Arietta is one of the very few anime villains that I actually like, and I can think of a few reasons why. Her past story made me sad. I guess she was previously a feral child before Ion and Van made her civilized. But I did like the pink outfit she wore in the flashbacks with Van and Ion! Soooo cute!

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2009-02-14, 02:01	Link #2
NoLongerSane Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Texas	Watched the raw Spoiler for Episode 20: Pretty much the best part of this episode was how Arietta's death was handled. In the game there was no closure to this character and I really enjoyed how the anime made it's own rendition to that end. In truth, of the God Generals back stories, Arietta and Largo were the ones that got my symphathy on how the ended up where they are. Anyway, Mohs gets his power and pretty much has to suffer body change in order to support that power.

2009-02-14, 02:15	Link #3
Peanutbutter Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Spoiler for Ep 20: Brilliant Anise vs Arietta fight. I agree with the better closure in the anime as compared to the game. Though I was expecting Largo to deliver the message and not a Liger. So, the great "Luke being clueless because he doesn't know ancient Ispanian of the man seizing glory" was simply settled there and then. Oh well. At least it clears my query to why they wanted Luke to hear the meaning of that phrase in the earlier episodes. Back to the Anise vs Arietta fight. It really shows that given the time, they could really expand the storytelling and overall quality of the series. Squeezing everything within 20+ episodes isn't gonna really do much justice to the game. Still, I do give them props for being to be able to cover the main parts thus far.

2009-02-14, 07:52	Link #4
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Spoiler for ep20: ...The episode really felt separated (more than usual), going from here and there and doing stuff here and there. The lolis' fight was rather dull for a deciding fight (died so easily...), but I guess this is the best this anime can do... Her death was done well though, if there is something this episode did excellently. -Heh~, reaction to Anise is a lot different from Luke's. frozen stare Maa... Luke's the only one treated that way. Whenever the others do or did something wrong, they tend to act oh-so-much nicer. Heh~ Phun~ Hoh~ -...Moss just showed his power? Why not just attack them with his great new power? Kimoss... Preview: Attack of the weak clones again... __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13) Last edited by serenade_beta; 2009-02-14 at 08:09.

2009-02-21, 18:34	Link #5
Forever Revealing the truth Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Age: 41	Arietta's death is really sad. I am really not used to watch small cute little girls dying... Was it really necessary for the authors to write her death? __________________

2009-02-21, 19:50	Link #6
darkchibi07 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 38	How the heck did Sunrise make Arietta's death more depressing than in the game! Poor Arietta! __________________

2009-02-21, 21:01	Link #8
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	I wasn't looking forward to this. Definitely managed to make her death feel sadder here even though I knew it was coming. Just too bad they couldn't find something for her to keep on going for. Killed the Ligers, killed Ion, and pretty much nothing else she had enough of a connection to. Feel they couldn't save her and thus didn't. __________________ Anime-Evo

2009-02-23, 09:45	Link #10
Sinestra ション (^^) IT Support Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Freedom Guard Ship Amaterasu	I felt really wrong watching Arietta's death it was really damn sad. At first i thought she was just really hurt then i saw her reaching upwards and seeing the mother liger and Ion and i was like oh shit shes done for. That was the only part besides the pendant Luke found that kept me interested the pendant was a huge hint and its very obvious who it belongs too. still very very sad to see a loli die like that I get the feeling majority if not all of the God Generals are going to bite the dust. I can see Tear landing the fatal blow on her teacher the chick with the guns if she didnt die in the avalanche. __________________

2009-02-24, 12:29	Link #11
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	Oh snap...Arietta!!! ;______; Why did it happen ;_______; Some thoughts. __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2009-03-09, 01:12	Link #12
Eisdrache Part-time misanthrope Join Date: Mar 2007	So I watched 16-20 this night and I have to say that after those average episodes and lots of Luke annoyance the Arietta vs Anise fight as well as showing Largo being GAR just made up for everything. I cried when she died ;_;

2009-03-12, 19:03	Link #13
Red_eyes Member Join Date: Apr 2006	Arietta is the most tragic character in the anime. First, her mother gets killed which is ultimately because Mieu was retarded and set fire to the forest the ligers were living in. That was one of the dumbest reasons ever. Then the person she cares for the most gets killed thanks to Anise. Van, her savior, also appeared to be dead. In the final battle all of her family dies and it wasn't even a fair duel in the first place. Last time I checked, a duel is one on one and her ligers are her tools of fighting. Obviously they are no match for our 'heroes' especially Jade's magic. If Luke etc. could join in, Largo might as well be part of the fight too. By the time she died I just felt like our team of 'heroes' were in fact, the villains. Anise on the other hand, the Judas of the team survived. Oh how I despise Anise and Luke is barely tolerable. Everything really was Anise's fault, yet she never apologizes to Arietta.

2009-04-05, 09:20	Link #14
FireChick Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006	I finally saw this episode. I can't believe I didn't cry when Arietta died! She was one of my favorite characters! Yeah, Arietta is one of the very few anime villains that I actually like, and I can think of a few reasons why. Her past story made me sad. I guess she was previously a feral child before Ion and Van made her civilized. But I did like the pink outfit she wore in the flashbacks with Van and Ion! Soooo cute!