Hayate no Gotoku manga (raw discussion only)

[Game8910]

ubt at least it looked pretty xD this arc will look A LOT better for those who will catch up in the future

[Teleutao]

My guess is that They're all back at the mansion and Sakuya and Isumi are at a spa type thing there to relax after the fight. The question remains as to what they told the others and what Hinagiku told them. It would be very suspicious if they each had different stories, but I think that Hina and Hayate either don't want to talk much or are in a state where nobody wants to ask them yet.

I get the feeling that they'll be leaving Greece soon but maybe not just yet. When they do leave, Hayate has to be happy since that's the whole reason Nagi brought him there in the first place. There's a chance that he'll be faking it but more than likely he'll have put the issues aside (realized they don't need to be solved now or something) and set the mood for the story to go back to normal. I really don't think everything will be solved yet since the idea is to stretch out the story, so any resolution with Athena or massive power ups will have to wait for another time.

[Game8910]

lets think about it:

Hinagiku got rejected - mood: depressed
Hayate withnessed Athena's pain - mood: depressed

Hayate and Hinagiku had a date and pretty much no one knows what happened on that date, suddently their mood is depressed.

The perfect new misunderstanding to drive the plot forward dont you think?

[dazo]

yes, spoilers.. yes fanservice... XD
but i hope, that hata show us, more about a-tan conditions, the royal garden, and about hina..
welcome back, light - misunderstanding , and a power- up..
now i need the sumary...

[zodanhko]

Man, Isumi is getting really awesome and interesting as a character lately, even her attitude is ownage. Don't mind an Isumi's development and re-enter the harem.

Credit to Todoko from Mangafox

Spoiler for chp 248 spoilers:

Hayate no Gotoku! Chapter 248. Her choice

Signs of Isumi (I'm not sure of this so if someone else knows it then edit at will)

3 people come out from sea.
Using the technique, 'Forced Transposition' they've been transpositioned to a sea somewhere in Greece.
Isumi is riding a dolphin and because she used too much of her power, her hair turned pure white.

First in the washroom, they talk about the tecniques and about what happened at the castle.
The spirit and the snake are being supplyed with limitless power, and they're so much stronger it's scary.
Guesses that Athena has the ability to push them to their maximum power.
Isumi: 'If we don't atleast seperate the spirit from the Cheif President... no matter how many times we fight them, we have no chance of wining.

Meanwhile, Makina is crying over the destroyed hamburgers.
Athena: 'I'll some again next time.. So don't cry. Don't even eat.. Anyhow..'

Athena: !!

The scene moves back to Sakuya and Isumi who jus finished bathing.
Isumi: 'She never had that ominous look before, the reason was hidden away in a deep place but something must have triggered it and caused her feelings to waver and if it took that chance to implement itself in...'

Hayate: 'Is it hard to chase away that monster?'
Isumi: 'No, chasing it away is simple.'
We can just either give or break that stone which is the shared objective of Athena and that spirit.
Then, the connection with the spirit and Athena will break, and we can save her.
It's not that if we don't break the connection we can't save her..
But in the worst case scenario, the shock might hurt Athena's soul.
Sakuya light-heartedly says that then it's simple, but Hayate reluctantly rejects it.

So Sakuya suggests 'Then why don't we give the stone first and chase the spirit away, then get the stone back? but
Isumi: 'We cannot give him the stone. The stone is the spirit's main objective. If we give it to him it's like letting him win.'
Sakuya: 'Even if it's just lending it to him so we can chase him away?'
Isumi: 'What happens if we can't get it back? We can't do that..'
I think it's a 99.9% chance that it won't work.. even so it's not completely 0.
If it's not a 0% chance then we have to look carefully at that chance or else..
Isumi: 'The world... might come to an end."

The world---
Will end?

Isumi: Because of that I want to right now... destroy that stone!!

It seems like Isumi really does know Athena well.

Spoiler for chapter 248:

Now Hayate is given a choice, protect the inheritance or save Athena...or just ask Mikado to change the inheritance ordeal

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by GDB

Not sure which song you mean specifically, but every time Hayate had those sad walks while in Athens I played The Lonely Man by Joe Harnell (aka "That sad walking away song from the Hulk")

My bad, it was the opening theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BviaHtmkgJQ

[Koroshiya_Kame_13]

Its nice to sit back and let other people do the translation since I was too sleepy to translate it yesterday. What was the condition for Nagi's inheritance again? I remember that if the stone is destroyed Nagi would lose her inheritance. Does Isumi know this, or does she think that destroying the stone is more important than Nagi's inheritance.

[zodanhko]

Destroying the stone would save Athena and perhaps the world (safest way anyway)...

[Used Can]

I wonder if that's why that arc was named "The end of the World".
Oh you crazy Hata...

[Koroshiya_Kame_13]

Originally Posted by zodanhko

Destroying the stone would save Athena and perhaps the world (safest way anyway)...

Manga cliches. One Piece is a perfect example. Didn't Isumi say that the last thing she'll do is hurt Nagi? Oh yeah, if Mikado didn't have the original stone 10 years ago, how come its under his possession now before he gave it to Hayate?

[Game8910]

so in the end it IS coming down to "Pick Nagi or Athena" for Hayate, oh wow this arc is so much win...seriously

Im also glad they had the intelligence to suggest the whole "borrow the stone" deal, at least we now know that wont work either

[zodanhko]

I don't think Isumi will bet a promise she made to herself over humanity. And Nagi can easily survive with her stocks in the economy even without the inheritance as she mentioned, economic is her best subject after all.

... Or just let Isumi destroy it, receiving the inheritances, then give it back to the Sanzein although it would be really lame...

[Koroshiya_Kame_13]

Originally Posted by zodanhko

... Or just let Isumi destroy it, receiving the inheritances, then give it back to the Sanzein although it would be really lame...

You really think that'll happen? Destroying the stone means destroying a good story for Hata to use and disappointing Japanese fans who expects more battles.

[zodanhko]

Originally Posted by Koroshiya_Kame_13

You really think that'll happen? Destroying the stone means destroying a good story for Hata to use and disappointing Japanese fans who expects more battles.

Of course, the stone won't be destroyed, not right now anyway. It will be sooner or later.

[Xellos-_^]

there is also kill mikado now, receive inheritance and gave stone to Athena.

[Used Can]

Or Hayate can always get a miraculous power-up that allows him to face Midas and Machina.

[Koroshiya_Kame_13]

Originally Posted by Used Can

Or Hayate can always get a miraculous power-up that allows him to face Midas and Machina.

Don't you think that the main character receives a major power up to defeat the villain is overused? I'll prefer a more unique way for Hayate to defeat Midas King.

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by Koroshiya_Kame_13

Don't you think that the main character receives a major power up to defeat the villain is overused? I'll prefer a more unique way for Hayate to defeat Midas King.

Yes, but as I've said before, I'm not really expecting strategy or battle tactics being used in this manga. Isumi already showed her cards; so, unless she's testing Hayate, I think that's the only plan she could think about.

So, between some corny scene and some good battle scene, I'll take the latter any day, any time.

[dazo]

this is no bleach, there is no power-up, for each 3 chapters... hayate , just need to destroy that stone , damit, just save athena , nagi can live a good live without the stone, but a power-up ,really sound good XD.
men, the history is getting better XD.. good work, hata !! if midas, change host, that would give a new way.

[zodanhko]

The spirit and the snake are being supplied with limitless power, and they're so much stronger it's scary.
Guesses that Athena has the ability to push them to their maximum power.
Isumi: 'If we don't at least separate the spirit from the Chief President... no matter how many times we fight them, we have no chance of wining.

This makes me wonder...Why does Isumi wants "the chance to win" even after she were to successfully separated the spirit from Athena? Why does she still want to fight after separating the spirit? Unless the separating spirit only refer to the "physical skeleton" itself while Athena is still possessed by the "mind" of the spirit.


But the "breaking the connections" seems to refer to the "mind" of the spirit which to drive that monster away from Athena's mind...Need more information...