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Speculations/Theories on who Killed Aswald's Previous Leader. ( no spoilers please)
Ok i have been wondering about who could have deafeated the Aswald's previous leader at the insurgence that happend 15 years ago. Well Since he was the leader he should have been the strongest or wisest of them all and probably a Cyborg. I have two theories. One is that Rena encountered him and defeated him and got that wound. and the other theory is that while that person was trying to run away with Arika, the leader of Aswald kills her but before she can kill Arika , Miyu apears and defeats him and that is why we see the scene with that woman and Arika on the ground in episode 23 and we see shadow of Miyu.
Well in My opinion the second theroy is more reasonble because Rena probably wouldnt be able to defeat the leader of Aswald without being an Otome. P.S. I was suprised this topic was never discussed ^_^. ( or mayby it was?) |
2006-03-20, 00:07 | Link #2 |
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Looks like no one has shot you down yet, guess I'll kick it off.
Rena was injured by Rado and killed. When Rena was about to run off with Nina, Rado kicked down the door and confronted her. |
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2006-03-20, 00:18 | Link #4 |
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Your forgetting that Schwarz was part of the attack as well, not just Aswald. Were talking a decent sized armed force assaulting the castle, there's going to be chaos everywhere.
The 4 knights were shown moving into the Castle and there the Duke orders them to find the princess and that's probably when Rado breaks down the door looking for Nina. If there was a leader among them, we would've seen 5 knights and not 4. So either he slipped and cracked his head or he got gunned down by Windbloom troops which I find highly unlikely prior to episode 1 timeline. That or he was off running around by himself. |
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2006-03-20, 11:27 | Link #6 |
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im confused. What has the Aswad leader to do, with the incenet in WINDBLOOM castle?
We are talking about Rena and the child she lost? In the Anime you see only the Windbloom raid... Aswad was in raid with Schwarz minions... well.. all other thing that i wanna say, goes direction spoilers *g Are we talking the right scene? And for Aswald, previous leader.... Well the malfunction of a weapon.... Mfg, Seska |
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Mfg, Seska |
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2006-03-21, 21:18 | Link #11 |
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Aswald's previous leader was killed in the weapon malfunction that made Midori, Rad and the rest of them have to undergo serious transformations (read: become androids) in order to survive. The person they lost was Youko. The previous is fact, the latter is a guess as she's the only person in the picture we've seen of the group as children who is no longer in the Black Valley.
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2006-03-21, 22:08 | Link #14 |
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The sickness was caused by the weapon malfunction. Therefore my statement was valid. As for their leader, I was under the impression that the story given by Midori was "Weapon malfunction --> sickness --> leader dies --> Midori and crew become androids" --> FAST FORWARD --> raid on Windbloom.
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I am confused from this Thread. Every one is coming up with new things that i have never heard . |
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The previous leader Rado is referring to is the King. The duke allied with Shwarz to overthrow the king. Aswald was helping Shwarz because of the promise of technology. Remember that Aswald is after any technology that can help cure them, or aid them in finding the technology that can. The life they sacrificed was Renas. Rado knew that she had lost her otome powers, but still fought on anyway because of her loyalty to the king. Aswald had no grudge against the king and was only there because of the promise of technology from Shwarz.
Rado says that to Aswald a fight is sacred, so long as it is for one's own destiny. They understood that Rena wasn't fighting for evil reasons like the duke, she was protecting her king and her family. To them, she was an honorable opponent, but no match for them without her otome powers. That she fought on anyway was honorable to Rado. But the strong win over the weak, so she lost. They even honor those who fought with honor after death. They tried to save her corpse from being stolen by the Shwarz, but it was too late. |
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