2012-10-05, 10:28 | Link #1062 | |
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And what would be an alternative against a corrupt government? |
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2012-10-05, 10:33 | Link #1063 | ||
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2012-10-05, 10:48 | Link #1064 |
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Jobless Rate Falls to 7.8%, Lowest Since January 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/06/bu...ps-to-7-8.html Some good number for Obama.
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2012-10-05, 11:13 | Link #1065 | ||
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Honestly, the numbers report is probably boosted by seasonal job shifts and other simple factors that are employing more people currently but not for long lasting work. |
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2012-10-05, 11:31 | Link #1067 | ||
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And yes, it's definitely corrupt. Money = Speech and Corporations are People should tell you that immediately. And what is a "peaceable" protest? Who defines what is "peaceable"? The Tea Party protests were worse, yet nothing happened to them since they happened to coincide with what the 1% wanted. That was not the case with OWS, so they got beaten. |
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2012-10-05, 11:35 | Link #1068 | |
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Have the Tea Party protests been overstaying their mandate (in camps, no less) or continuously hindering the activities of those unrelated to the protests? |
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2012-10-05, 12:47 | Link #1069 |
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I would describe OWS as a "peaceable" protest. Obstruction is not violent. It's simply civil disobedience.
Personally, I think they should have gone further and "occupied" the stock exchange. Or did a in person Denial of Service attack. Flood it with so many people that nothing can get done. The only reason people paid attention to OWS was because they made such a nuisance of themselves. The Wall street bankers had their cocoon pierced, if only for a short time. Unfortunately, they still live in an alternate reality where they're Randian heroes driving the motor of the world. |
2012-10-05, 12:54 | Link #1070 | |
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Symbolism - Struggle between Man & God (yes, I'm taking this WAY out of context, but it's a beautiful painting )
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2012-10-05, 12:57 | Link #1071 | |
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The data says truth almost always loses. It isn't a level playing field of ideas.
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2012-10-05, 13:19 | Link #1072 |
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The people, at any time, can elect anyone and everyone out of office, and then every questionable law can be repealed or reformed. Will this ever happen? Probably not (money is the great equalizer when it comes to the truth). But, as so long as it is possible, then the Government (which is of the people and by the people) is not corrupt, simply run by corrupt individuals.
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2012-10-05, 15:07 | Link #1076 |
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Ah... yeah, I had to read it a couple of times.
In other news, PBS decided an official statement skewering Romney's lack of command of the facts on public broadcasting was necessary. You'd have to have millions of "PBS budget line item" removals to begin to make a dent in the Bush tax cuts. Public broadcasting is the information equivalent of the Rural Electrification Act that brought electricity to all those rural areas because the private sector simply wasn't going to do it. http://www.pbs.org/about/news/archive/2012/statement-presidential-debate/
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2012-10-05, 15:40 | Link #1077 | |
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Do i think religion is useless and stupid? Of course not. Before science became the dominant mode of reasoning and inquiry, Religion served that function. Someday, science, too, will be replaced by a superior mode of inquiry, one that relies on as of yet to be discovered technologies and mathematical concepts. At this point though, religion has no use as a mode of inquiry or as a guide for how to live your life. The fact that there are actually laws that are entirely based on religion is both frustrating and infuriating to those of us who have moved on. Religion is already on the short path to extinction. It's sad that we are still debating about this in 2012. |
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2012-10-05, 15:45 | Link #1078 |
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Well... I think there's always going to be a place for *spirituality* because its an acknowledgement of the irrational in being human. I'll readily admit to having experienced "perfect moments" (even if I know there is a biochemical/neurological foundation for them) and one should enjoy those - and I rather enjoy visiting shrines or temples that help to focus those moments.
Institutional religion with founders (and leaders) who wave a book of "rules" of questionable origin that detail what sort of fabric you wear, who to stone, who to hate? Sects with extreme and unsupportable interpretations of those rules? Insecure violent buffoons who lash out when that is pointed out? Yeah, not destined for the dustbin but needs to be driven there.
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2012-10-05, 15:52 | Link #1079 |
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Can I just say that is one of the largest piece of BS I've ever heard in any format? There is no superior or inferior way of thinking, given the limitations of humans. The fact that people think science is the answer is the same kind of idolatry that anti-religion people accuse the religious of, and in fact I believe them to be no different from the extreme religions that they speak down of.
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2012-10-05, 15:53 | Link #1080 | |
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