2009-03-05, 15:12 | Link #41 |
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Ah finally, I found a translation of the spoiler script! Interestingly enough, Magellan asks Luffy how he managed to infiltrate the prison. Luffy simply responds that he would die before he answers that question (good to know that he's keeping Hancock out of trouble....). Also, it looks like Magellan has quite a nice variety of attacks.... the tear gas that was mentioned in the earlier summary was create through a grenade that he spat out of his mouth. Oh, and some of the guards were unlucky enough to get infected with the poison, heh.
As far as Buggy and Mr. 3/Galdino go, they decide to skedaddle while Luffy's busy fighting Magellan. Mr. 3 says that the guards will be too focused on keeping Luffy away from level 5 to pay much attention to them. Both of them are aware that Hannyabal is guarding the stairway to level 3, but Buggy thinks that the vice-warden can be taken out easily since he hasn't heard any rumors about him being a DF user. Heh, looks like those guys are underestimating the ambituous vice-warden. I kinda hope that he turns out to be a Rokushiki user or something, myself.... And... as far as Luffy's recklessness goes, while I do know that it tends to get him in trouble, I really can't picture him being a more scrupulous pirate. The fact that he's so rash is one of his strongest character traits and is what got him such a notorious reputation, anyway. Sure, he'll probably need to exercise more caution when he reaches the New World, but I think the opposite may also be true, as well; Kidd's speech about how pirates wouldn't survive in the NW if they don't have the testicular fortitude to shout out and say, "I'm gonna find the One Piece!" particularly comes to mind. Oh, and if memory serves me right, Kokoro mentioned something about Gold Roger being a reckless idiot during the Enies Lobby storyline, as well. Plus, couple that with what Rayleigh said about him being "big and flashy" about everything he does, and you might say that the Pirate King was even more hard-headed than Luffy...... |
2009-03-05, 15:36 | Link #42 | |
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They underestimated Luffy? When? Crocodile killed Luffy twice - first time he was saved by Robin, but how would though that burring him alive with huge hole in his belly wouldn't kill him. Second time only his great luck saved him, and even after he finally beat Crocodile, he would die without Robin giving him antidote. As for Moria, first he waited till Oz was ready to serve him, and at the end he tried to beat him down with super power of 1000 shadows. Who the f**k would thought that Luffy's crew could beat down Oz (except for the viewers, I'm talking about normal people here). Luffy deafeted two Shichibukai in their strongest forms. That's how I take it. Besides there are now 3 good Shichibukai(Kuma, Boa and Jinbei), and that's with beaten moria like a half of them. We don't know much about Mihawk.
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2009-03-05, 18:44 | Link #45 | |
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Also, Luffy's recklessness is necessary for this manga. If Luffy was not as reckless as he is: 1. He would not be able to obtain the crew that he has. It was out of his recklessness that he was able to convince them to join. 2. Even if he was able to gather his crew members, they would probably be less loyal towards him. eg. Zoro would probably let Luffy be taken away by Kuma. 3. He would not grow in strength. That is to say, if Luffy were to be cautious most - if not all - of the time he would avoid all of the big fights that made him the person that he has become now. If Luffy were to take more caution after hearing about Ace's execution, he would become a disgrace to all One Piece fans. He is the kind of self-sacrificial, altruistic hero that the fans have come to accept and look up to. He is quite a knight in my books. He has the audacity to stand up to people who are superior to him in order to protect his nakama. If his impetuosity deteriorates at this point, he might as well throw away his dream of becoming Pirate King. |
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2009-03-05, 20:17 | Link #47 | |
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a captain with split personalities would be quite funny |
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2009-03-05, 22:28 | Link #48 | |
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2009-03-06, 00:54 | Link #50 | |
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Though, you might of been sarcastic in that comment. I'm not just so willing to call Kuma a good person yet. He stands a good chance, but his real motive is suspect. There is a very small possibility that Kuma sent everyone to islands or locations he thought they may want to stay in. Yet he underestimated how much they want to move forward. I keep getting this funny idea that he just accidentally mixed up where he was going to send Luffy and Sanji. I don't think it's likely. It would just be funny. It's just that line he always says, "If you were going on a vacation, where would you like to go?". It's that and how he told Luffy they wouldn't ever meet again. He did send away those Pacifist robots. Sure, he was called 'The Tyrant Kuma', but the World Government also called Robin 'The Child of Demons'. I'm waiting to see if they show the scene of Kuma being questioned about Luffy by someone in the Marines. There is no reason to leave out Moria. Currently he still has his title as a Shichibukai. He was at the tactics meeting in the Holy Land.
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2009-03-06, 05:47 | Link #52 | |
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Shichibukai were suppose to be dogs of the military, and so far it looks like ALL of them are using the title and military for their own profits while scheming behind everyone's backs. If Moria beat a Yonkou and had such power than he would rather become Yonkou, before becoming the pirate king -_-' Kuma has connection to Dragon, but he still is very brutal throwards anyone else, except Dragon's son and his crew. Don Flamingo has his smiles theory that we don't know much about yet. Mihawk is a shichibukai because he can beat all those pirates and have a better reason - instead of "being bored" he can say "I'm a shichibukai, y'know". We don't know if Jinbei was planing something, but he revolted against WG so it doesn't matter :P
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2009-03-06, 06:10 | Link #53 | |
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You often see the Shichibukai be defiant to the World Government members with no consequence. That is until this fight with White Beard. Even Kuma destroyed the Pacifists and said that he wasn't going to help the Marines in captured, because he had no orders to do so. Sounds more like an excuse. They might not even do anything to Kuma after Luffy's escape. They need him on their side. Not to mention it seems next to impossible to actually stop him. Unless you have a way to stop his ability to appear at random. He doesn't seem to need a ship. We know why Jinbei revolted. It's a matter of honor to him. He wouldn't raise a hand against White Beard who rescued Merman Island. He also seems to believe that is White Beard fell the whole Grand Line would fall into chaos. He has so many islands named under his protection. It's a personal matter to Jinbei. Has it ever been confirmed that Kuma is connected to Dragon? I thought that was just speculation as to why Kuma is helping Luffy. Man I'm irritated. My favorite manga viewer site has the new Naruto and Bleach up, but still no One Piece. That always seems to be the last one.
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2009-03-06, 07:26 | Link #54 | |
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I thought that Kuma said Dragon's name after his deal with Zoro was done. Also juse before he sent SH all over the GL, he told Rayleish that it wasn't his plan to do so, as he himself wasn't sure if it would work. I know that they allowed to pretty much whatever they want, but they still get the orders to stuff. Three of them showed up when they were dealing with Crocodile's replacment, but if someone didn't show up for WB war preperation than he or she would be banned as Shichibukai. That's the diffrence that WG stress on things. Pirates can do whatever they want. However shichibukai has to fight other pirates, listen to WG orders (at least the most imporatnt ones) and can't overtrone countries and such. WG is cool with them bringing their own islands (like Moria), but not taking it from someone (like Croc). I can bet you right now that Don Flamingo's new era it tottaly against WG rules.
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Exciting chapter. So as it appears Luffy 'sacrifices' his hands to jet bazooka Mallegan. The last picture depicts Luffy being covered in Mallegan's poisonous goo. Which struck me a bit odd. The drawing is confusing. Either the Jet Bazooka took some poison with it back to Luffy (wouldn't explain the large quantity as shown on the picture) or Mallegan sneaked in an attack.
In any case, Luffy, even without the poison attack seemed to be reaching his limit so a moment of pause/healing/eating will probably soon follow. I can even see some scenario where Luffy get's captured but escapes thanks to Bon Clay or (by mistake) Mr 3 and Buggy.
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And these are the examples that substantiate how Oda had to "dumb" down Crocodile and Moria in order for Luffy to win.
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I wouldn't say that Moria would keep up with Luffy's Soru+gear 2nd. One of the reasons why Crocodile didn't use enought sand was because it would cause the building ot colapse. We know for sure that Kuma didn't underestimate them, and beat the crap out of all SH, but what about Mihawk? He fought against Zoro using a small knife and won, and neighter Crocodile or Moria was that bad.
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I don't understand what you mean here. Can you please clarify?
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