2012-10-14, 02:10 | Link #841 |
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I believe they can override the kill setting and downgrade it to paralize at will. Therefore I think that nowadays law enforcement is in the very same position. If the perp accepts to be detained (or is subdued with a good old close combat) they can do some interrogation and do some dna testing. But sometimes in the heat of the moment a gunfight ensues and they die in the operation, there is still tissue to do some dna testing on the dead tissue, but any info the perp had dies with him.
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I agree with whitecloud about the exceptions. This being a similar setup to Equilibrium, you probably have flaming hypocrites at the top. The only question is why they don't encourage the general population to self-medicate themselves into apathy. |
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2012-10-14, 11:41 | Link #846 |
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okay, the 1st ep really brings up a lot of discussion
as a huge fan of Urobuchi's work, I don't think I am satisfied with the 1st ep The major problem of this ep is: how stupid the whole system is This flawed, inhumane policing system seemed to create problems than solutions and this is exactly why I think Urobuchi has done wrong in this ep As I comprehend, the whole "psycho-pass" system should be "in order to create a better world" by "curing the disease in the society" Immediately go into showing the flaw of the system isn't a good idea That make all of us think about "why should they implemented this system with so many obvious problems at the first place?" I think they should show us the "Better world" first to convince people the system is indeed "building a better world" Then we won't think the system is really so stupid and useless at all If I were the director, I would make the scene like this: At first, I will show the normal daily life of mentally healthy Ms "hostage" (I forgot her name) and show the safe and lively world (all in a bright mood - bright light, laughing crowds...) then the "criminal" show up and kidnap Ms "hostage" (change into the dark mood) and then follow by the ep The contrast is the key With this contrast, we can complete the argument on utilitarianism and humanism - "Is it right to ignore the human mind and freedom for the greater good of society?" then if yes, "how can we know a person which is "useful" to our society or not?" This question should be the origin of the psycho-pass measurement Urobuchi may have think about this but this ep can't show me this argument clearly maybe he will make this up in this next ep so I am looking forward for the next ep |
2012-10-14, 12:24 | Link #848 | |
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I am talking about the presentation of the ep and what I think about how they should present the idea I am talking about some scenes they could be add to enforce the plot I don't think the content of the last few pages is about this aspect you are discussing about the idea and plot of the ep and I have nothing to add because it has been deeply discussed In short, my idea is show bad side of the system only (which is presented now) --> most of us know it is bad --> it is stupid to use it show both good side and bad side of the system (in this ep or later ep) --> some of us may weigh the pro and con --> maybe the system is useful adding some scenes can make the difference Last edited by kemal_1915; 2012-10-14 at 12:39. |
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2012-10-14, 12:36 | Link #849 |
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I guess I'll repeat myself again....
Why aren't we even considering that the Psycho Pass is actually accurate and acceptable? Because yeah if it was soooo bad then why was it passed in the first place? People are always saying "obviously flawed" but have you ever thought why was it presented this way if the flaw was so obvious? Maybe we need to step back and let the show try to explain things before we say "this is flawed that is flawed etc etc" we're only at the first episode...
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2012-10-14, 12:59 | Link #851 | |
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And for some reason, Akane looked like she knew that would happen ...
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2012-10-14, 13:06 | Link #852 |
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And like I said earlier... if Akane didn't interfere and just let Masaoka paralyze the victim then it would have ended there with them taking the victim into custody and give her theraphy. Akane's interference only gave the victim more time to work herself up and get a lethal judgement.
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2012-10-14, 13:10 | Link #853 |
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The problem is like this: we have no idea what is the therapy, and it is implied it is not a "enjoyable" experience either. Also, if the victim memories aren't erased, she will remember that she was tazed despite being the victim.
Really that's the same as a cop apprehending the kidnapper, and then use a tazer on the victim to take her to the box. That's something no normal law enforcer in their right mind would do that, even if the victim is in a hysterical state. In therm of practicability, paralyzing her would be the easiest way, but that's absolutely not the best course of action, if we take in consideration the context and the potential aftermath.
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2012-10-14, 13:13 | Link #854 | |
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Akane's interference isn't what got her worked up,having a gun pointed at her is what got her worked up.When Akane gets to interfere without someone pointing a gun at her she calms down.
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2012-10-14, 13:17 | Link #855 | |
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Unless the system consider an individual to be dangerous the very moment they reach such treshold a single instant, it means the enforcers are too focalized on the numbers, and don't read between the lines. Either way, not going to be pretty.
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2012-10-14, 13:19 | Link #856 | |
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And thus I say before we tag the system flawed and whatnot maybe we need to know how the system really works?
As for the therapy... maybe the criminal is exagerrating... maybe he's not confident that he can clear the therapy because he knows that he really has serious issues. Akane certainly didn't think it was bad(around 04:19). Quote:
Like I said... if Akane didn't interfere it would have ended there with them just paralyzing the victim. The result would be acceptable if that was the case. edit: I just noticed that the dominator GUI actually belonged to Akane.
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2012-10-14, 13:42 | Link #858 |
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We know the system very nearly killed the rape victim for being upset. So, yeah, it's fucking flawed. If you want to say it possibly results in less crime and fewer violent deaths than what we've got, and that that woman should therefore be considered "acceptable loss" or "collateral damage", go right ahead. But don't insult our intelligence by pretending there's any possibility of the system being perfect and the setting being a utopia.
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2012-10-14, 13:47 | Link #859 | |
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I just hope our main girl won't be getting the same treatment Sayaka got but since this IS Butcher Gen we're talking about...
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2012-10-14, 13:49 | Link #860 | |
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And again(lol)... if Akane didn't interfere then the whole incident would have ended with them taking the victim into custody and giving her treatment. Is that not an acceptable outcome?
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