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Could she have exposed Meer earlier? Certainly, but that only fuels the creditability of the Earth forces and its not exactly what Lacus wanted, or in the best interest of Cagali, especially when her relatives were Alliance sympathizers. - Tak
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2011-06-21, 10:15 | Link #2162 | |
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the problem with GSD is the politics were not well written enough.. the series had so much potential in terms of politics.. Lacus and Athrun's character in GSD should have had a much bigger role. Athrun, being the son of the mad man who tried to destroy Earth, returns to PLANTS to carry the burden of his father's actions. that was a desirable effect, even if people were ranting against Athrun's return to ZAFT and how he didn't "learn anything" back in SEED. but indeed he did learn something. in fact he thought that if he acted to the situation IMMEDIATELY, things would be resolved. but he ended up being a puppet for Dully. Athrun's arc was quite interesting. Lacus, her character was depicted rather badly (I'm a Lacus fan). They should have given more depth into her character. She was the daughter of the man who tried to stop the mad man from destroying earth. IF Dully was smart enough, he should have thought about uniting the Zala and Clyne faction to further his influence on PLANT. the story would have been more interesting if Lacus and Kira were against eachother... since it would be rather impossible for Kira to go against his twin sister if Lacus and Athrun would side with Dully. and yes, GSD story was very forced. like how we were FORCED to believe that Athrun and Cagalli weren't lovers........... |
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2011-06-21, 10:25 | Link #2163 | |
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1. Kira would never go against Lacus and vise-versa. If he had to choose between Lacus and his sister, somehow I believe he'd stick with the former. Moreover, Kira already resolved the issue of going against his twin sister. He done this by... well... kidnapping her. 2. One cannot control Lacus. Dully cannot work with Lacus, because he will eventually end up working for Lacus. 3. Lacus would have refused the offer without a second thought. - Tak
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2011-06-21, 10:35 | Link #2164 | |
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2011-06-21, 10:37 | Link #2165 | |
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about the points you mentioned.. that is why Lacus' character was portrayed poorly in GSD. it's as if she's a person who NEVER makes mistakes. and how do you know that Kira won't go against her no matter what? well, he would if she would do something horribly wrong. but then again, the story would be far MORE interesting if Lacus went crazy and Kira would still follow her because of their romantic relationship. I, for one, want to see a depressed, crying, problematic Lacus Clyne. think about it, if those points were not impossible GSD would have been more interesting |
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2011-06-21, 10:44 | Link #2167 | |
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then how come wait delay is going besides unless we GS era fans would go lead & help out to get GS movie.
besides i would personally volunteer go work help remain to fix on GS movie to show it to everyone. overall really i'm assume they got something plan for it 10yrs special in next year.
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2011-06-21, 11:12 | Link #2170 | |
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You may be right in the Earth Forces' credibility being boosted, however Dullindal could easily make the argument that he was trying to unite his people in the midst of the horror of Junius 7 crashing to Earth, which is pretty much what he was trying to do. So even if the Earth Forces were to take advantage of the deception, Dullindal could stay his position as a peace-favoring ruler and perhaps even use their bullying to unite his people even further. The Earth Forces' argument for engaging in the war was that Coordinators dropped Junius 7 onto Earth. By solidifying his position as one for peace, Dullindal could directly oppose that view through his actions, albeit somewhat misguided ones, and bring real debate to the floor as to whether this was a war that needed to be fought. Having that kind of controversy on the table could bring a much deeper set of emotions and hatred out into the open, making for a far more appealing story. |
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When someone gets "promoted" just to get them out of the way. Which is what should happen to Morosawa (i.e., "promote" her to a creative consultant).
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2011-06-21, 11:28 | Link #2172 | |
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2011-06-21, 11:29 | Link #2173 | |
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From the moment I first laid eyes on her character, I wanted to know what had happened to her to make her turn out that way, whether it stemmed from her mother or some sort of unexpected, conflicted past, or whatever. Sadly it never happened. |
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2011-06-21, 11:41 | Link #2174 | |
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it probably stems from her very "perfect" upbringing btw, was her mother a victim of the bloody valentine too? |
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2011-06-21, 11:47 | Link #2175 | |
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If she really had as much of a "perfect" upbringing as you claim, I would think that all the more reason for her to show some faults. Surely most anyone would be just about ready to go nuts having to be so unequivocally sweet and kind all the time. If Lacus' mother was a victim of the Bloody Valentine, I certainly never saw any proof of that in GS or GSD. The only time I ever even heard her mentioned was when near the end of GS when she was talking to Kira. I don't believe she was ever touched upon at all in GSD. A serious mistake, IMHO. |
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Besides, what did she say to Meer when she finally met her? You could be me if you like, but we are different persons. If Meer's existence was to initially bring the people of PLANT together, I don't think Lacus would have minded. Lacus only stepped in after it got out of hand. Quote:
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Where was the anger? The frustration? Feelings of helplessness or an inability to cope with the loss of someone precious to her? One could make the argument that the lack of these even reinforces her role as the perfect heroine because she seems to be a loss for these very real human emotions. I want these so-called "deep, dark secrets" so I can relate more to Lacus' character and try to understand why it is she's the way that she is. As she stands now, she's akin to a far away idealistic dream that no real person could possibly live up to. |
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Lacus grew up under the watch of her father, the current Chairman of the Plants at the time; so she should've been exposed to plenty in terms of the political world and its far-reaching consequences. It's not so much that she should've realized Meer's existence as a threat, but the manipulative hand of Dullindal behind it. To have such a man as the Chairman of the Plants; she should've at least sensed the danger in that alone and confronted Meer to discover the truth behind what was happening. Quote:
What effect Athrun had on her and what effect Lacus, the object of her obsession, would've had are two completely different things. It was in their final confrontation with one another that we saw the difference that their words had on her. Had Lacus come and talked with Meer early on, before she had become increasingly encompassed by the role Dullindal had placed on her, I believe there should've been a very real chance that she could've come to her senses. Quote:
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When did she ever learn how to pilot a mobile suit, by the way, as was shown when she assisted Kira in bringing the Infinite Justice down to Earth. That on its own could've provoked a whole series of questions and depth into Lacus' past. What about her mother? We didn't see much of anything with regards to her. That was a total waste of material that could've opened up a whole new side to Lacus that we didn't know anything about. In GSD alone, we didn't see any refreshing new set of circumstances that would've rekindled that spark to fight for what she held dear. Perhaps during the initial assassination attempt, one of her children could've been hurt or even killed. That would've been an awesome means by which to send Kira and Lacus storming back onto the battlefield. |
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