2004-12-29, 02:07 | Link #41 |
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You have to also count / guess at Myammar's population. The gov't is not forthcoming with the actual dead or even close to counting. Also, parts of Indonesia is under terrorist control (Marxist control) so gov't cannot tally the # of dead nor can they seperate the # of people actually killed or were executed and the Tsunami dug up the mass graves. It's going to be a long and ardious task. Also, there will be many bodies totally "lost at sea."
As to AzureSky's comment, I agree with planning for the future. Even though there are lots of people lost, progress must still be done to generate income. There will be many people who need money - it does make the world go around. If no money can be generated, people cannot buy medicine (espeically with the virus/bacteria outbreaks that are sure to come), shelter, fresh water and food, and so forth. It's going to take years. Look at Japan's Kobe quake in 1995. In one of the most Industrialized countries, Kobe is starting to get back to normal. There's still a lot of rebuilding to be done but you get the drift. In poorer nations, this rebuilding is even more important. Many communities were totally wiped out, islands disappeared, nations destroyed. It's going to be hard but it has to start somewhere. On the emotional side, rebuilding also gives people hope of a future. Also, through rebuilding, they will uncover humans remains and families reunited (whether better or worse). It's a form of closure. |
2004-12-29, 02:09 | Link #42 | |
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I know what you're trying to get across, but some may find your post a little insensitive. The situation is also somewhat different this time as well, the 60 000 people who would be dead, are dead. |
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2004-12-29, 06:06 | Link #44 | |
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Just gave something to the Cooperating Aid-organisations that work here in The Netherlands to aid those people in dire need of help. And since I know some people from there this is one of those cases that you just can't let go by without doing something about it, being it financial aid or anything else to help really. |
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2004-12-29, 06:14 | Link #45 | |
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2004-12-29, 07:05 | Link #46 | |
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Natures disasters are off course nothing that we can help but to put off this Human tragedy as something you consider not to be a big loss to society, I'd say stand in line first next time they hand out feelings. |
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2004-12-29, 11:23 | Link #47 | |
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You know nothing about me or my outlook on life you presumptuous ass. You don't know how I react to in family death, nor anything else for that matter. And excuse me for being the only one seeing that the Earth can not support this bulging population means are required to lessen the numbers and the strain on the planet. |
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2004-12-29, 12:25 | Link #48 |
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dude, i'm all for the old "the earth is too populated and needs to cut down on the amount of humans in it" idea, but this whole situation still makes me ill to think about 80,000 people (the toll has risen) at LEAST who died in this one tragedy. i'm as callous as anyone about over-population, but for fuck's sake, i can't see how you wouldn't even feel mildly sad about this incredible loss of life.
i'm with animizzle. i can't possibly believe that you wouldn't feel like shit if someone you knew (a best friend, a lover, ANYONE besides your family if you don't give a shit about them) died in this incident. you mean to tell me if your best friend died while vacationing here, you'd sit back and think "wow, that sucks, but hey, population control!" if you say yes, i propose you are lying out your ass. no one is THAT dead inside. |
2004-12-29, 13:00 | Link #49 |
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That is about exactly what I would say, and you have no right to say I'm lying because YOU don't know ME.
I don't understand why all you people are so hung up on death, You have no idea whats on the otherside ,if there even is anything. For all you know they could be much happier now. |
2004-12-29, 13:14 | Link #51 |
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The news service originally thought that 10,000 died in the WTC on 911, because that is how many worked in those buildings on an average buisness day. The death toll numbers went down as people began to realize that most workers escaped from the buildings after the first plane hit, and before either building collapsed. If both buildings had collapsed imediately, the death toll would indeed have been 10,000+.
Meanwhile, for the current much larger disaster, the death is liable to keep rising, not go down. This is because there is nobody around to report many of the people who have come up missing, and some of the lost will never be found. Also, I tend to regard all human life equally, whether they are in Sri Lanka or New York. |
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2004-12-29, 14:07 | Link #53 | |
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As for the aftertoll of this event, I am really hoping that they can contain and control diseases like maleria effectively to reduce any possible future deaths. I feel absolutly horrible about this whole event. My best friend is over in Cambodia and I'm crossing my fingers that she didn't lose any family and that she won't be effected by this. I too am gonna donate some money later today. |
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2004-12-29, 14:17 | Link #54 | |
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2004-12-29, 14:49 | Link #56 | |
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Update : Death Toll Surges Above 100,000
"The death toll in the tsunami disaster soared past 100,000 today - and is set to climb higher. A total of 50 Britons are now confirmed dead and at least 100 are unaccounted for after tidal waves swept away resorts in Thailand, Sri Lanka, India and around the Indian Ocean." http://www.thisislondon.com/news/art...0Standard&ct=5 Quote:
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2004-12-29, 14:55 | Link #57 | |
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As for Cambodia, as far as I've heard, damage seems to be minimal. I'm just worried that my friends family is ok because she has some family in other countries like Thailand. Best of luck to you and your university as well. I hope that everyone is ok. |
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2004-12-29, 14:58 | Link #58 |
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I find it a bit strange that there wasn't more warning given. I'd have expected that the geologist and seismologists would have able to see something that big coming once the EQ happened.
After a bit of googling around... A brief scientific overview of the EQ and the tsunami warning that follows: http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2004/s2357.htm A computer animation from NOAA (requires QuickTime): http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/video/t...esia12-2004.qt Apparently it took a few hours for the tsunami to travel from the epicenter to Sri Lanka and the surrounding regions, although they don't seem to have any advance warning system like those set up in Hawaii or Japan. |
2004-12-29, 15:05 | Link #59 |
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From what I've heard on the news, there was such little warning because there isn't a effective warning system from the Indian Ocean. CNN stated that it was very costly for the southern asian countries since tsunamis occur so infrequently. Australia is supposidly looking into a warning system again and will probably propose one later this year.
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