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2006-09-15, 16:14 | Link #22 |
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Sorry for going on topic, ;P but I hate how Square-enix is releasing ff on multiple platforms now. Want to just buy one system and be done with it.
Why release revenant wings as ds when pretty much every ff(12) fan has a ps2? At least with xenosaga the ds release was just a compilation of the ps2 games. Porting is good. Splitting a series among several platforms is bad. |
2006-09-15, 17:58 | Link #23 | ||
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Don't pull that ancient famous Greek shit on me, I know my philosophy. Anyway, as long as you conceded that FF7 AC was only beauty and attempted to downplay the importance of the plot and solidity, that's fine. I couldn't care less about opinions like these. Quote:
Anyway, Squeenix is creating games for the Wii as well, so I'm guessing they're just going to try and reap as much bling. |
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2006-09-15, 18:01 | Link #24 | |
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2006-09-15, 18:13 | Link #25 | |
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But if you make a sequel, MAKE IT A CONTINUATION. Actually in FF7, I was disappointed that you never actually got to fight regular sephiroth. You just fought some ugly boss mutation of sephiroth, and then in cloud's head, one omnislash was GG and he never attacked
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2006-09-15, 18:17 | Link #26 | |
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2006-09-15, 21:54 | Link #28 | |
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I hated Plato's Socratic works when I first read them (I still much prefer more modern philosophers such as Hobbes and Descartes), but ever since, the talk about beauty has seemed to become more and more pertinent. What is life about if not the pursuit and endurance of all things beautiful? As to other saying that FF:AC should have been a strong story continuation rather than a send-off of the characters. FF7 takes scores of hours to complete; the story was reasonably deep. Do you really expect a 90 minutes film to be capable of delivering a deep response to a 40 hour opus? To me, the purpose of AC was clear from the start.
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2006-09-15, 23:20 | Link #29 | |
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I think the value-neutral fundamentals of existentialism should make much more sense to you than Socrates or other opinions of some other dead Greek or famous figure. If you aren't devoted to value neutrality promoted in analytic philosophy, then I guess we won't be getting anywhere anytime soon. Regardless, bringing in some Socrates quote about pursuit of beauty is really, really poor. You still have to account for aesthetic standards being objective. If they were subjective, then your statement made no sense. Finally, life being the pursuit of all things beautiful seems to me to be just another variation of hedonism. If you're stretching your notion of beauty to encompass more factors than just the aesthetic, then.. ; ) Let's just not even go there. To me, the purpose of AC was clear from the start too. Nipple. Squeeze. Milk. |
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2006-09-15, 23:21 | Link #30 |
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A 90 minute film? Of course, as a hollywood embrace between cloud and tifa would take all of 1 minute, if that.
In 90 minutes, I don't expect an entire new story, but I expect at least some semblance of something to say "yeah, cloud and tifa are hitched. Yeah, XXXX is doing soandso." Because clearly, it WASN'T a sending off of the characters. Because DoC proves that wrong.
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2006-09-16, 00:03 | Link #31 |
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First off, Best way to describe FFVII is a Spooge of FanService. The movie really did nothing but offer a very pretty picture and a ton of fan service for VII fans
Second. I mean I really dont see the problem here with XII going to DS or even a Prequel. Doesnt mean it can not be a quality game now. DS has a great number of great RPGs comming out...Just add this on to it.
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Philosophy, IMO, has reached a real impasse in modern times. A very intelligent friend of mine put it best when he said that the problem with philosophy is words, themselves. But perhaps worse is the idea that philosophy can actually arrive at any truth. My stance is that all non a-priori philosophical claims will always be only opinions. So what's wrong with tossing out the opinion of one of the world's most revered philosophers? Quote:
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2006-09-16, 05:26 | Link #34 | |
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However, I've seen some footage of the ending of FFXII. And... (Be prepared for a minor spoiler. Yes, it's just minor and trivial; trust me.) Spoiler:
Maybe my logic is rather faulty there, but it's something to think about at least. So yes, maybe it is indeed a sequel of sorts. Maybe. |
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2006-09-16, 13:53 | Link #35 |
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Shit.. I've been coming across too many FFXII spoilers
I'm going to stay off these threads until I get and complete the ENG version. I'm 40 hours into the Japanese one.. My guess is that it's a prequel, though I much prefer sequels. I quite dislike people creating stories just to fit it into current standing works.. Anyway, are you keeping track with Otome & Tsuyokiss? There may be light |
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Anyway, we'll see how this prequel/sequel goes. I on the other hand prefer if this would become a prequel, but my sixth sense is telling me that it won't be one. Then again, I've been wrong before. |
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2006-09-17, 23:41 | Link #37 | |
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For the record Megaman=milking Sonic= milking Madden= milking Final Fantasy/= milking especially since this is only the second game game in the FFXII timeline, by that definition you could say Valkyrie Profile II is milking or God of War II is. Heres my two cents, the It's A Wonderful World one turns me off immediately because you know the characters are all just going to end up looking like this http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7.../Gackt2015.jpg and the villain will have silver hair, oh and lets not forget about the inevitable ten thousand belts and zippers. Seriously Nomura, crawl back into the black hole of talent your crawled out of and take Gackt with you if you love him so much, everything you've touched in recent years has been a pox on Squeenix's relatively good track record of storytelling and character presentation. I really hate this guy. Finally Heroes of Mana: Why not? I'm always for strategy games and Square has made two famously good ones already that I can think of off hand (FFT and FFTA), and since the Mana series has been getting stale in my opinion, its a good direction to attempt. Now if we can just keep Square from ever releasing another SaGa game all will be good in RPG land. And for those who seem to not like reading for some reason, it says right on the RPGamer link that the story will follow Vaan and Penelo's actions after FFXII. FINALLY (For Real) Advent Children was about Cloud's Motorcycle and Tifa's Cell Phone. |
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2006-09-21, 14:10 | Link #40 |
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According to a new article on IGN, S-E isn't really labelling this as a sequel or prequel...instead calling it a spin-off/side-story of sorts.
http://ds.ign.com/articles/733/733945p1.html Some quotes from the article: "To make a game suitable for inexperienced gamers, Torishima and crew planned to make something that uses the touch pen for control. They also decided to get rid of overly complicated elements from the battle system. While Torishima wouldn't provide specifics, he said we can expect a system that will allow you to defeat your enemies with minimal controls." "Yokoyama added that the game isn't a sequel to FFXII. It's not, for instance, FFXII-2." |
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