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Eisdrache · 2011-10-24, 23:06

Tried some dominion lately. When I'm not jumping on people all over the map with Jax I defend bot with Maokai, usually getting Mercury's Treads, Warmogs, FoN, Frozen Mallet with 2 open slots. He's literally impossible to kill unless you overextend or get dived by several people.

If people wouldn't start coming to bot lane ALL THE TIME for whatever random reason instead of pushing top my win ratio would be 250% better :/

Kotohono · 2011-10-26, 01:08

well I spent a good bit of time today learning and playing Irelia since she's free this week[I had been eying to try for quite a while after seeing her a good bit], she's definitely next champ I am buying, she's very fun to play and good too. I am still debating my item build/skill order with her currently skill wise I get E > W > Q and max W > Q > E, and item wise:
Regrowth pedant > Philo stone
Boots
Amplifying Tome -> Sheen/Rube Crystal -> Heart of gold/Merc boots or Ninja boots[not sure order here it kinda depends on match so far]
Other 2 of above
Dagger -> Zeal
Long Sword -> Phage
Trinity Force
Negatron Cloak -> Regrowth pedant -> Force of Nature
Then unsure for starting gunblade next or upgrade Heart of Gold into Randuin's Omen and Philo stone into Eleisa's Miracle/Shurelya's Reverie[depending which boots were picked], so that my final build is usually:
Shurelya's Reverie/Merc boots/Randuin's Omen/Trinity Force/Force of Nature/Hextech Gunblade giving me a lot of mobility and solid defense and offense, though I am still not sure about gunblade for 6th item

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Kafriel · 2011-10-26, 01:56

Doesn't really need a gunblade imo, if you're using her DPS from W, Stark's can be very useful, and if you want to burst people down, you could always risk a bloodthirster...

Xacual · 2011-10-26, 02:04

So our next character is going to be a half dragon. I'm going to be annoyed if it's another "ult for timed power up / transformation" like renekton, nasus and riven.

Kafriel · 2011-10-26, 02:51

Personally I'd prefer an ultimate like Nidalee's, with a second skillset and hybrid options. Riot can be very creative at times...

Xacual · 2011-10-26, 02:52

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Originally Posted by Kafriel

Personally I'd prefer an ultimate like Nidalee's, with a second skillset and hybrid options. Riot can be very creative at times...

I would prefer that since it seems like dragon form is definite judging by the preview.

Kotohono · 2011-10-26, 03:06

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Originally Posted by Kafriel

Personally I'd prefer an ultimate like Nidalee's, with a second skillset and hybrid options. Riot can be very creative at times...

I hope so I'd love to see another champ like her since she is one of my favorites

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Originally Posted by Kafriel

Doesn't really need a gunblade imo, if you're using her DPS from W, Stark's can be very useful, and if you want to burst people down, you could always risk a bloodthirster...

Mainly gunblade seems like a good last option since her ult scales off both AD and AP + spellvamp works nicely with her Q[so much healing for killing minions

] and ult, and seem liked better choice than will of the ancients. Though Stark's is definitely worth considering depending on team comp if anyone already build one or can make use of it. Bloodthrister meh, if I wanted something that AD heavy I'd probably just go for an IE instead

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Kafriel · 2011-10-26, 03:28

While it's not really practical on her, I just love stacking AD and going ninja on creeps with Q^^
Anyways, from what I recall, Irelia is usually built classic tough-DPS (your build with atma/warmog instead of the tenacity/regen item and hextech GB), with enough burst to put down some damage, and enough survivability to engage in further encounters without taking serious damage, thus harassing well and killing better. Of course, there's no such thing as the perfect build, and no champion was meant to be built in one way, so feel free to experiment and post your results

Duo Maxwell · 2011-10-26, 04:20

Irelia usually goes for Trinity and tanky. Gunblade helps her sustained dmg, but not required. It's not that good on Irelia before the ulti nerf, but after that its usefulness went higher, a lot.

Kyero Fox · 2011-10-26, 07:09

great, another tooth pick female champ with gloves 5 times the size of her

and why are the girls getting all the cross breed things? pretty much every male character thats come out for a while is boring, excluding Xerath. he's awesome.

Kafriel · 2011-10-26, 07:24

Nocturne is boring? Blasphemy, I tell you!

Skane · 2011-10-26, 07:37

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Originally Posted by Kafriel

Nocturne is boring? Blasphemy, I tell you!

Does Nocturne even have a proper gender?

Hmm...

Otani-kun · 2011-10-26, 09:18

I wonder if Shyvana's going to be like Dragon Knight from Dota.

DragoonKain3 · 2011-10-26, 11:33

Haunting Nocturne = best skin for him and best harrowing skin, both past and present. Of course, if Nidalee got her bewitching skin use bats instead of leaves, it would give Nocturne a run for his money. But until then.... man, those new particles for Noct's Q and E are goddamn sexy.

Kotohono · 2011-10-26, 16:36

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

great, another tooth pick female champ with gloves 5 times the size of her

and why are the girls getting all the cross breed things? pretty much every male character thats come out for a while is boring, excluding Xerath. he's awesome.

I thought Skarner and Wukong weren't that boring, though Talon or Graves.... ya I'll give you they're a bit boring, but so was Riven

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Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

Haunting Nocturne = best skin for him and best harrowing skin, both past and present. Of course, if Nidalee got her bewitching skin use bats instead of leaves, it would give Nocturne a run for his money. But until then.... man, those new particles for Noct's Q and E are goddamn sexy.

Hmmm it is a great skin, but I finding hitting people in the face with broomspears on Nidalee to awesome[plus the hat + cat form is win], though the Nocturne is definitely better than Annie or Blitz's.

Kyero Fox · 2011-10-26, 19:16

Riven was boring, yea.. a female cloud imo

altho i kinda like the fox girl and this dragon chick... hopefuly she'll be romance for Jarvan XD

Kafriel · 2011-10-27, 01:11

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... hopefuly she'll be romance for Jarvan

Well, he does have the dragon hunter skins, all that's left is to capture one...or half :P

Her mechanics are out btw, sounds like the fury system but only goes up with AA, so I'm guessing AS/AD champ? Unfortunately, she's not like Nida

-Sho- · 2011-10-27, 03:14

Vayne's last dragon slayer skin will make sense too

If only Xerath isn't boring then almost all champ is boring wth...

Kafriel · 2011-10-27, 03:42

KF was talking about the recent male ones...

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Vayne's last dragon slayer skin will make sense too

And so, the Shyvana x Vayne ship has set sail!

Kotohono · 2011-10-27, 05:08

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Originally Posted by Kafriel

Her mechanics are out btw, sounds like the fury system but only goes up with AA, so I'm guessing AS/AD champ? Unfortunately, she's not like Nida

Her system sounds more like Swain's ult than fury to me except based off AA instead of mana, but you have to full charge to use it.

2011-10-26, 02:04	Link #1284
Xacual Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	So our next character is going to be a half dragon. I'm going to be annoyed if it's another "ult for timed power up / transformation" like renekton, nasus and riven. __________________ I was influenced by a certain group overflowing with madness and started trying to write a story. Please give it a try. Crashed into Fantasy

2011-10-26, 04:20	Link #1289
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	Irelia usually goes for Trinity and tanky. Gunblade helps her sustained dmg, but not required. It's not that good on Irelia before the ulti nerf, but after that its usefulness went higher, a lot. __________________

2011-10-26, 07:09	Link #1290
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	great, another tooth pick female champ with gloves 5 times the size of her and why are the girls getting all the cross breed things? pretty much every male character thats come out for a while is boring, excluding Xerath. he's awesome. __________________

2011-10-26, 11:33	Link #1294
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	Haunting Nocturne = best skin for him and best harrowing skin, both past and present. Of course, if Nidalee got her bewitching skin use bats instead of leaves, it would give Nocturne a run for his money. But until then.... man, those new particles for Noct's Q and E are goddamn sexy. __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

2011-10-26, 19:16	Link #1296
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	Riven was boring, yea.. a female cloud imo altho i kinda like the fox girl and this dragon chick... hopefuly she'll be romance for Jarvan XD __________________

2011-10-24, 23:06	Link #1281
Eisdrache Part-time misanthrope Join Date: Mar 2007	Tried some dominion lately. When I'm not jumping on people all over the map with Jax I defend bot with Maokai, usually getting Mercury's Treads, Warmogs, FoN, Frozen Mallet with 2 open slots. He's literally impossible to kill unless you overextend or get dived by several people. If people wouldn't start coming to bot lane ALL THE TIME for whatever random reason instead of pushing top my win ratio would be 250% better :/

2011-10-26, 01:56	Link #1283
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	Doesn't really need a gunblade imo, if you're using her DPS from W, Stark's can be very useful, and if you want to burst people down, you could always risk a bloodthirster...

2011-10-26, 02:51	Link #1285
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	Personally I'd prefer an ultimate like Nidalee's, with a second skillset and hybrid options. Riot can be very creative at times...

2011-10-26, 03:28	Link #1288
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	While it's not really practical on her, I just love stacking AD and going ninja on creeps with Q^^ Anyways, from what I recall, Irelia is usually built classic tough-DPS (your build with atma/warmog instead of the tenacity/regen item and hextech GB), with enough burst to put down some damage, and enough survivability to engage in further encounters without taking serious damage, thus harassing well and killing better. Of course, there's no such thing as the perfect build, and no champion was meant to be built in one way, so feel free to experiment and post your results

2011-10-26, 07:24	Link #1291
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	Nocturne is boring? Blasphemy, I tell you!

2011-10-26, 09:18	Link #1293
Otani-kun Beta Tester Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Netherlands Age: 35	I wonder if Shyvana's going to be like Dragon Knight from Dota.

2011-10-27, 03:14	Link #1298
-Sho- ~Omedetô~ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell !	Vayne's last dragon slayer skin will make sense too If only Xerath isn't boring then almost all champ is boring wth...