2012-03-12, 07:00 | Link #2721 |
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ANN reviews the 1st 12 episodes of Last Exile: Fam, the Silver Wing
And what do you know. The reviewer like this show and gave it a "B" saying "Perhaps Fam isn't the second coming of Gonzo (yet), but it is a well-made, well-balanced, and, well, enjoyable action series—and they could've done far worse than that."
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2012-03-12, 08:00 | Link #2722 | ||||
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And, regardless of the eloquence of your argument, I think the script in #18 handles the topic very poorly. Quote:
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2012-03-12, 12:52 | Link #2725 |
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So Luscinia is just a plain old bad guy, no hidden agenda no secret plot he just want to wipe out most of the population so that the surviving ades + Sara can rule the earth. So next thing is grand final battle versus rest of the world, where he will dies while taking out most of the world too. Afterward we get a happy end! Fam can race her grand Race as peace party with Sara watching and then Sara will get assassinated by whoever is left. And the neverending circle of war and peace continue till the next Last Exile - "insert possible Name here" serie.
God the serie began so good so much promising but by ep 12-14 it went down and down and down. Please at least let the last grand battle be good... Last edited by hai_san; 2012-03-12 at 13:02. |
2012-03-12, 12:58 | Link #2726 | ||
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And I'm not. The thing is it's not reasonable to expect an exact one is to one correlation between our real-world history and the world presented by Last Exile.
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2012-03-12, 13:30 | Link #2727 |
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Funi's subs at up at least. It is still unclear if Sadri knew Luscinia's true intentions on bringing that new weapon, but he did mentioned that he will proceed to the plan. We'll find out how loyal Sadri is on the next episode.
Fam finally realizes her fault and that the grand race is nothing but a dream. It sucks that her realization was poorly executed and felt unrealistic, but at least she realize how much hate there is in this world. As for the Grand Exile, a small vanship might be able to get inside and do some damage. Also there might be a weakspot on the rear where the Silvius can do critical damage to it. |
2012-03-12, 14:01 | Link #2728 | |
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2012-03-12, 17:20 | Link #2731 |
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Well, after watching the subs, this episode just comes across as a hot mess to me. In fact, in the last two episodes, we have seen a) Liliana tell Millia to do what she has to, b)Luscinia tell Fam to do what she has to, c) Luscinia tell Liliana to do what she has to, and d) Luscinia tell Fam he is only doing what he has to. Amazing writing, really.
Liliana and Millia: The viewer sees that Liliana was “forced” into serving Luscinia and becoming a witch after the destruction of Turan. Then it cuts to Millia bemoaning Liliana’s death and saying that she (Millia) was oblivious to everything and didn’t realize the burden Liliana had to bear. But how does Millia come to understand this? It wasn’t just the Exile knowledge Liliana may or may not be aware she possesses. It was the choice Luscinia gave her in the ruins of Iglasia. That’s when Liliana decided to “bear her burden.” Did Millia download all of Liliana’s memories as well? That’s the only way Millia could appreciate Liliana’s situation. If so, that would be an interesting development, but I don’t think the show really intends to go there. I just think the writers are belatedly trying to make Liliana a complex character by shoehorning details into the plot. Fam Fan Fan: Well, Fam finally realizes that other people have feelings too, which is a positive bit of “growth” for her character. But as another poster noted, it rings entirely false. Let’s just recount what Fam has personally witnessed prior to this episode: terrorist attack on first Grand Race; death of Kaiser in front of her six-year-old self; assassination of Augusta Farahnaz in front of her six-year-old self; annihilation of Iglasia; ambush of the sky pirates by Orang; Liliana’s betrayal of Millia when the Sylvius meets the Ades fleet; destruction of the provincial fleet; destruction of most of Glacies’ rocket fighters; the aftermath of the destruction of Kartoffel; losing an entire squadron of Sky Pirates in the first battle of Boreas; almost being shot down by Dian in the second battle of Boreas. After Fam has seen and experienced all these things, she still, as she admits to Millia, doesn’t think of anyone else’s feelings and only wants peace so that there can be another Grand Race. But somehow Liliana’s death forces Fam to grow up, when Fam’s first-hand experiences up to that point haven’t moved her character one bit? Seems forced and unbelievable to me. Spoiler for Fam at the end:
Sadri: I love the old guy. I don't think there's any way to reconcile what a character in his position should know with a view of him as anything other than a crafty, psychopathic old man. After all, Luscinia has been using the equivalent of an atomic bomb (the Exile) to bring world peace and now he tells Sadri that he is going off with Sara to get an even bigger "peace-bringer." How can Sadri think it's anything aside from an even bigger bomb? Below just some general thoughts and questions I have going forward: Spoiler for Guild theories:
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2012-03-12, 20:00 | Link #2733 | ||
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2012-03-12, 20:32 | Link #2734 |
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Well I just finished watching the show at NicoNicoß and I'm going to have to back off on some of my earlier comments. First, Kayhvan's not dead - those who reported that seem to have missed the fact he seemed to be fine when we last see him (he see's the light but it is going past him). Second, the opening part of the show wasn't mentioned. Someone just posted that Lilliana was forced, after all, to do what Luscinia wanted her to do. What?! What Lilliana seemed to have done is been given the a chance to kill Luscinia but was talked out of it by a wacky speech about if how she didn't let him start a war and take over, then she'd have to do it herself. NO one had to start a war, let alone continue it! The series started on a note where things had actually looked to be calming down. Luscinia and Aluada went out of their way to stir it all up again JUST to start this war. Had Lilliana pulled the trigger, and Luscinia actually let her kill him (not to sure he'd have done that), Lilliana didn't have to do squat about keeping peace for everyone in the world. The fact she didn't realize that shows that she had some real issues. I guess what they show was going for was that she agreed with Luscinia because as a Key she knew the cycle of violence was never ending but why Luscinia would be the end to that violence shows her to be quite short sighted. Just because he has a big bad weapon it isn't going to stop a thing. At some point (probably before the end of the series even) he's going to lose the ship through his own death or maybe even Sara's and then what? If that didn't happen now it would in a few hundred years. He isn't stopping anything here. He's on a huge ego trip and killing thousands of people who are in the way. Anyway, this opening scene seems to be his memory, not Millia's, though it could be trying to convey it's a shared memory between the two, due to Millia seeming to gain her sisters memories. Still, I'm not sure exactly what Millia understands when it comes to Lilliana's "burden." I still can't make heads or tails of why Lilliana did what she did. She went from angry over her fathers death to just doing what the person who killed him wanted to, to the point of wanting to always be with him. Part of this is most likely Stockhom Syndrome but I still think Lilliana's swayed way to easy for someone next in line for a throne.
Luscinia's talk with Fam: I think that's the only time in the series he ever spoke directly to her. Interesting to me is that he told Fam Lilliana wanted her to look after Millia. That isn't what Lilliana asked for. She asked Luscinia to do it and it shows yet again how worthless a person he is and how foolish she was to be swayed by him. I have to say that over all I didn't like this episode because it I just feel the story isn't doing a good job conveying what it wants us, the viewers to take away from it. Case in point, it keeps harping on how poor Lilliana situation was when it never did one thing to let us know who she was, let alone understand her. The only positive thing on the long term plot was that Fam finally realized she's been a total dork about the Grand Race, which was nice but not exactly a high point either. There are other things that are rubbing me the wrong way but that's a big one at the moment. Now the one thing that did make me happy was Dio finally dispatching Aluada. What I'm not sure about is what does the side of the Vanship read? I know it's important but the NNß didn't subtitle it. It was also nice to see Dyan have regrets but if thing hadn't really gone all crazy at this point, I think it would have been to late for her. Now I think the show is setting it up so they can let her out of of jail to at least fight without making Millia to upset (they're going to need everyone that's left). Last thought - I keep thinking that the Mysteria poems are telling a story, the back story that is, of what happened in the past. If so, then whatever that Exile was created for sounds like it had more to do with sending people off in the beginning. So did Ades simply decided not to use their Exile? Even if they did use it and come back or whatever happened, the ship doesn't seem to be like the other Exiles or truly have the same purpose. The design isn't really big enough to be a long distance carrier for a Prester sized group of people so what was it really for? I asked this before but what was that Exile really meant to do? I do hope we find out though I'm not counting on it . |
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2012-03-12, 21:30 | Link #2736 | |||
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2012-03-12, 21:34 | Link #2737 | |
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Spoiler for HERE I'LL EDIT TO ADD THE RAW CAP OF IT hurr.:
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2012-03-12, 22:08 | Link #2738 |
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So Luciana's goal is to save mother earth's natural resources? Then why the heck did he unleash an earth destroyer known as the Grand Exile? The Grand Exile lays barren land and natural resources. It destroys ecosystems in a blink of an eye.
The concern is overpopulation depleting our natural resouces. Yet he has been on a mindless compaign destroying all land and scorching the earth. I am surprised no one in his army has noticed the hypocrisy of it all. Well, at least he is telling them it is for world peace. When everyone else is dead, your pure race will achieve peace (where did I hear that before, and where do I keep hearing it practiced today? )
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2012-03-12, 22:53 | Link #2739 |
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A few quick thoughts:
I'm kind of pissed that Vasant was killed. I kind of expected most of the Generals to be killed, and I expected Luscina would be responsible for killing her. Still I didn't really like it. I still love how even animist everything, we still got a nice sweet Fam/Gisey/Millia Moment. I want to see if Millia forgives Dyan. I really can't wait until next week, if for nothing else to see Tatiana and Alister fly together again, and to see Millia take command of the Silvius.
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