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I like them too. Somehow i think and hope that those two don't die that easily And riful is really far from being stupid. She is probably more cunning isley ever was. She saw right through priscilla and knew at least that she was not beatable. Quote:
But things aren't what they seem to be. Miata showed during the fight against agatha that she has a good heart, a strong will and that she is a selfless person. She remembered me more of clare than of the big talking and cowardly acting priscilla. Interesting would be what would happen if clarice would die. Now after getting a deeper impression of what miata really is i think there is even a real chance she would stay human.
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Nice to know someone who likes that duo, too.
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Who ruled the world? Who left the South with her tail between her legs? Riful is hardly cunning. Her master plan is to get strong Awakened Beings to help her. OMG, Riful. Did you tought of that plan all by yourself or did Dauf help you? If anyone is interested in my opinion on Isley's plan, it's on the Priscilla and Isley thread.
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2009-06-15, 16:47 | Link #244 | |
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How can you possibly hate an adorable little girl like that? Besides, you can't blame her if she wasn't handed everything on a silver platter. Isley had everything going for him since day 1: They were both No.1's, but he had his own army, his second-in-command, an ultimate weapon, and even his own human apprentice who became family. The only thing Riful ever got, besides a series of never-ending failures was....well....Dauf If she's going to make any big plans, she needs support, something she never ever got. Isley had all the minions he could ever ask for. Perhaps it all didn't matter anyway. After all, Isley still died and he helped create Raciella, and technically with Isley dead, Riful is automatically the lord of the West, South AND North. Really something huh? Last edited by Shiek927; 2009-06-16 at 14:29. |
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Isley had all of that but he deserved them. He had to figth Rigardo for the position, he had to show to the other ABs that he was stronger and smarter. He even fought Priscilla to win her to his side. He could have avoided figthing Luciela. Seriously, he just had to walk in front of her accompanied by Priscilla and Raki. Since the boy looks so "delicious", Luciela would have probrably tried to eat him. Priscilla would defend Raki and that was it, Luciela was dead and Isley didn't had to do a thing. Instead of that, he fought her while sweet, little Riful was waiting for the outcome of the battle to kill the winner. Yes shiek, there were also many princesses in the history of Europe who had everything handed to them without having to lift a finger. That's hardly something honorable or to be proud of. Everything was handed to Riful in a silved platter, the only thing she did since her first appearance in the series was torturing weaker Claymores and weaker Awakened Beings. And Riful controls only the West and she is going to lose even that in some chapters. The Org controls the North, the South and the East with Alicia, the AFs and the Claymores. Riful only has herself and Dauf. If she wants to have minions, she should do something to deserve them. Besides, no one wants to serve a psycho and sadistic 9 years old child that breaks her own servants. And the worst of all is that she tortured Jean.
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The North and South right now are currently owned by no-one. With Isley's death, I assumed it was Riful's now, but it really belongs to no one. As for Luciella, Isley wouldn't do that, he didn't even know if Raki was of any use at the time. His original plan was what happened: Priscilla showing up and showing Riful that he was invincible now. NOTHING was handed to Riful, nothing. She never had anything. She didn't have the benefit of her ENTIRE generation awakening with her. She was lucky to even get her hands of Dauf to begin with, since he's the only one who left the other males. |
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2009-06-15, 17:34 | Link #247 | |
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He also said that Rigardo and Isley fought for the position of King. It's possible that he was already the King before that but Isley had, at least once, to defend his title. The South belongs to the Org after they killed their original ruler. The North has just been abandoned by everyone except for a few ABs. Priscilla became instantanely attached to Raki. Isley is intelligent, don't you think that in the days that took them to reach the South, he wouldn't have figured out a way to use Raki against Luciela? EVERYTHING was handed to Riful. She was handed Yoma flesh and she Awakened. She became an AO by her own right, splitting the Continent with other two AOs who were much more awesome than her. In the end, Isley killed Luciela and the Org killed Isley. Riful didn't had to do a thing to see more than half of her competition defeated.
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JB, Riful not doing anything still would have ended up being good for her yes, but you can't say she didn't TRY. Isley had so many advantages from the get-go; even though Riful had so many failures, it wasn't that things were "handed to her" when Isley died, it was luck. After all, it may not be even be that once the AE's start going for her. Looking at the big picture, She didn't HAVE to do anything to see her compeition defeated yes, but it's not like she sat on her butt for the whole war or Riful can use precognition. Quote:
Besides, I think he was more concerned with keeping him safe so he could get stronger. I don't think he would have tried putting him in danger. Priscilla showing up just to protect him seemed like a big gamble on it's own. Which brings up a good question: When Priscilla went to Isley, what did Raki do? surely he realized she wasn't in the house. Perhaps when both of them showed up naked was when he figured things out. Admit it JB, this whole arguement is because I like Riful and you don't |
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Well, you just proved a very good point. Riful is FAIL. That ain't tru actually, she did sat on her butt for the whole war Spoiler for manga page:
Actually, I think Raki tought that something else was going on. After all, he saw Priscilla returning with a naked Isley. Call me crazy, but I don't think that the first tought on his mind was that both of them were Awakened Beings. Prscilla wasn't naked. Not really. I used to dislike her, now I planly hate her and with every passing chapter, I pray for Riful to die a painful death.
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Yes, I'll admit, like I already said, Riful has had nothing but failures. Lord knows she's TRIED, but when push comes to shove, you gotta do things yourself. It's no wonder she got Renee on her own. XD, but why do you hate her so much? Do you like Jean THAT much? I like her, but Riful is just plain fun. She and Dauf are like Team Rocket; those two are comical, but you know they're going to lose in the end. |
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Anyone have any predictions as to who winds up fighting whom first?
1. Riful winds up going after Claire/new being before fighting Alicia/Beth 2. Alicia/Beth crash the party just as things are concluding 3. Wild guess is that they bring 10+ Abyss Feeders with them as backup, which would explain their confidence I don't know personally, but I get the feeling the Organization sent 10+ Abyss Feeders so that the danger the mission wouldn't be completed successfully would be much lower. Unfortunately for them, there is not only Riful now, but Claire and the new Super-Abyssal. Anyone else think this is going to end in disaster for the Organization?
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That is an important detail we all keep forgetting. I expect that Claire's personal views of the new being will be very sisterly. This no doubt would shock Cynthia/Yuma, since they've never really seen that side of Claire. I don't think anybody but Raki/Teresa has ever seen that side of Claire. My guess is that if the new being doesn't attempt to kill her, Claire will attempt to protect it.
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Frankly, I don't see any reason why they SHOULDN'T fight, it would only help Alicia and Beth not to mention they still have the element of surprise. And considering the "experience-gaining" abilities of the AB's that apparantely carry over to the latest batch, if they grew a fresh batch of AB's to send with Alicia(which is what they said they were going to do), they'd be flawless. Nevertheless, Control is what they care about most; and if they said they weren't going to fight, they aren't going to fight(though I still emphasize the "originally" part, plans may have changed). At any rate: I originally predicted that Alicia and Riful would have started fighting by now. That's obviously not the case. Nevertheless, I still don't think Riful will die at the hands of Claire or Raciella(at least not yet), though it would be a great twist: My prediction on what will happen: ================================================== == 1) Riful, sensing Raciella's awakening as we've seen, rockets back to her castle, leaving and ignoring the now obselete Renee. Dauf may stay behind to kill her or not, but it doesn't matter. Their is nothing she can tell the Organization that would impede Riful: They already know Riful's location, so Riful's most likely plan is too take Raciella, and escape to another castle, to plan her next moves. 2) Raciella awakens in her Super-Abyssal glory. Claire struggles and wakes up, confused over her identity and trying to piece together what's going on. She feels waves of emotions and feels like she "just woke up" for the first time. She tries to remember her name, but all that comes up is "Rafaela". However, before anything else happens, the smoke clears and their sits a physically grown woman with dark hair not saying a word. She appears to be just as confused; she looks at Claire with wonder and asks if they're related because she feels familiar. Claire has no answer and says she's just as confused, Raciella says no more and clings to her. 3) Claire feels the approaching Riful and she says they must escape. Alicia and Beth meanwhile are rocketing to Riful's castle to finish the job. Helen and Deneve have felt all this and want to hurry to the West to have Cynthia regenerate Helen's eye, but Deneve doesn't want either of them to encounter something else they've never seen before, and says they should go back to Rabona to meet with Miria before looking for Claire's group, even if this means leaving them alone for now(I admit, this probably won't happen as those two aren't smart enough to think rationally like that ). Raciella shows her impressive suppression abilities carried from Rafaela and manages to stealth the both of them away from the castle before Riful arrives. 4) Dauf meanwhile is still searching for Renee, and nearly catches her were in not for Cynthia and Yuma. The three of them manage to escape. Dauf tries to catch them but ends up with a nasty surprise: a horde of Abyssal Eaters. He fully transforms and manages to actually destroys 4 of the 11 Eaters, but that's still not enough to drive them off. Their speed, acquired overtime from the battle of Isley, dodge anything the bulky Awakened can do, they claw at his neck, face and exposed back and eventually bring him down. As Alicia arrives at the scene, Riful senses Dauf's demise and flies to the battle scene. 5) Riful arrives, enraged at the loss of her long-time minion. The handler pulls back the AE's from attacking, expresses his sarcastic pleasure in meeting her again and tells her death will sound the Organizations victory; for the creatures she sees before her brought about the end of Isley. Riful is shocked, but laughs, thanking the Organization for doing her job for her, and tells her this changes nothing, for Isley's greatest "token" is yet to reveal herself. The handler is confused and asks if she refers to the "female Awakened Being" that was defeated by Isley in the North but Riful says it doesn't matter, she's found a better minion then Dauf. The handler asks where is Renee and Rafaela. She tells him that she killed Renee, and Rafaela is hiding on her orders. The handler scoffs her; if it were true, Rafaela would be here helping Riful, but Riful says she needs no help to fight The Organizations "little golden girl". The handler proudly presents Alicia, the prototype for the next-generation soldier, but all Riful sees is the biggest sham of a Number 1 warrior in history. Alicia awakens as the handler orders an all-out attack. 6) The seven Abyssal Feeders rocket up Riful's appendages and claw at her, but her manipulation of her body tear them all to shreds. Riful's deduces many of their abilities quickly, surprising the handler and tells him it was easy enough to see how they died: the ones Dauf killed have their head complete squashed, a testimate to his brute strength. she silently thanks him as she slices them to bits. The handler is shocked and Riful tells him that he shouldn't be surprised, she's always hidden her true power very well. She also notices how the Feeders seem to circle themselves around Beth and wonders why she hasn't moved at all. Alicia's battle with Riful rages across the forest and ends up destroying her castle. Riful eventually manages to hide herself and attack Beth, causing Alicia to lose all control of herself and go completely beserk. Without any coordination, Riful easily manages to finish her off. The handler warns that they'll just create a new batch of Feeders and keep sending them till she's dead, but Riful tells him that she'll make Raciella kill them all before that happens. Even if they both die, Isley's trophy will kill everyone herself, the last words he hears before he's sliced to bits and Riful collapses on the floor. 7) Meanwhile Claire and Raciella have made their way through the forest and Claire is slowly regaining control of herself. She's looks at herself at a lake's surface and understands she's not the same girl in her memories. They end up however, stumbling upon a ruined Riful. Claire recognizes her as the enemy and she praises her creation and asks for her help, but Claire isn't going for it. Riful screams why she constantly rejects her, especially now that she's lost everything. She tells Raciella that she's the one who found her and tried to awaken her, but Raciella says that her "sister" is the one who helped her, who tried to push back her awakening and make her human again. Claire notes that Raciella's strength should be enough to finish Riful off and asks what happened; they'll keep her alive if she does. Riful slowly explains a few details, Alicia, and the AE's and Claire deduces the rest. Claire wonders why she's able to understand things better and wonders if her mind is working more sharply; the details however struck something inside her, she already knows, Rafaela has been investigating the Organization's research and found a secret R&D facility where a traumatized little girl was given the flesh of Awakened(Kudos to you Revan ), the eventual breeding ground of the AE's. Riful says those creatures will kill everyone and begs that they work together, but Claire says that they're more of a threat with her alive as they'll keep breeding and keep killing as long as they keep hunting her. Riful begs Raciella to help her one last time, but Raciella says no...although she was "sleeping" at the time, she could hear the world around her, and she heard how Riful would kill her before she woke up if she was too strong. Riful screams in agony and misery as Raciella finishes off the Abyssal of the West. 8) The Organization is distressed, they've had no choice but to assume Alicia and Beth were casualities. What has happened is making them question whether or not to increase the stock of Abyssal Eaters and create entire flocks. They believe Rabona has been a threat for too long, and they believe these women in black may have hidden themselves there. Claire and Raciella wander and eventually uncover Cynthia, Yuma and Renee. Cynthia recognizes her as "Claire" which clicks, and Claire at last understands everything. Claire tries to explain the situation and says they should return to Rabona as soon as possible to plan their next move. Helen and Deneve have already arrived and Galatea has sensed the defeat of Riful and says they're better of waiting and everyone is bound to regroup in Rabona so they're better off staying put. As the Ghosts make their way back to Rabona, Renee introduces herself to the group and is shocked to realize this is THE Claire, the previous No.47. She tells of Raki and is even more shocked to discover how close he could be. Renee questions the little girl with insurmountable yoki; Claire is scatterbrained but asks what exactly did his yoki felt like. Renee describes it as similar to Raciella; like an Abyssal One's, but so much more, and Claire is horrified at the impossible idea that this little girl could be....She moves with all her speed to the East, unaware that she is actually on head-on collision with Raki. As Raki makes his way to the West to the next town, he recounts his experiences with Priscilla and Isley, unaware that the next town will be the one he finally meets the girl he's been waiting for. 9) Rubel meanwhile is standing in the middle of a forest and recounts his latest report to a creature unlike anything ever seen before. Rubel asks for more time, he should be able to easily tamper with the creation of the AE's. Rubel warns and repeats the original plan: the Organization must be killed by their own creations or they'll start anew again someplace else. This creature warns "no promises" and says the situation is going steadily away from Rubel's control and Rubel looks distressed: "they are coming" ================================================ ........God, after all that, I swear I felt like I just wrote a fanfiction Well, this is my prediction on what will happen in the next 10 chapters or so, maybe more. I admit, alot of this stuff is made up straight off the top of my head, I honestly didn't plan to write as much as I did, but it was 2am, I'm bored and I got carried away. ,writing for about an hour and a half(lost track of time ). I managed to piece together details as I went along(praying that's not how Yagi writes his story) so this should make a somewhat amount of sense. Inspired by ideas of Revan and other users; Riful's death wasn't easy to write, being a fan of hers, but that's the most probable way she will die that I can think of(at least right now). Roflmao at the last part, THAT came out nowhere, I don't even fully know if they are coming in this story or if they even should. I figured, "this is all only a theory, so I might as well"; It reminds me of the opening scene of Return of the Jedi where the commanding officer tells Vader then the Emperor asks for too much and he needs more men to finish the Death Star, Vader replies "Then perhaps you can tell him when he arrives", totally flooring the officer, The Emperor is coming. 2 things are probably going in your head: 1) how did the handler control the AE's? This is something I've been thinking on. Their's at least a 50/50 chance that a handler will be there with Alicia when she fights. If the Abyssal Feeder's really are that programed, I believe they need some sort of control when it comes to Staff members, otherwise they're useless. They can't be used if they attack everything and everyone on site. They need to be "remote-controlled" on location as well as far away. That's why, I believe they can recognize the scent of the Staff members and take orders like a player controlling his units in a RTS game. 2) As for Miata in there, their's no actual date when she joined the Organization. Their's a huge time descrepsy, I know if Rafaela ever saw her, but it's possible she may have been kept around for that long in an attempt to control her because of her massive strength which they wouldn't give up on. Eventually, they gave up and threw her in her quarters as a "garbage disposal" for warriors that end up learning a bit too much. One brown-haired warrior however, ends up as Mama to her. This shocks them, so they try killing her off a different way: Sending her after Galatea, knowing full well of the Awakened there, who they believe would be enough to kill them all off. They didn't count on the Ghosts showing up though. As such, they know lost 2 warriors, one of them a potential No.1, Galatea is still at large, and these mysterious warriors in black who couldn't possibly be from the North..... Last edited by Shiek927; 2009-06-16 at 12:43. |
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Maybe I should have just written, "Riful screams that she'll haunt MisterJB in his sleep for all eternity" Criminey; Even the biggest Raki Hater doesn't hate Raki as much as you hate Riful, geeeeez! Please remember that I wrote all of that in the middle of the night(2am), most of it off the top of my head, so it was tough trying to piece things together. Alicia's death...I see no reason why Alicia should die and Beth still live, they both should just kick the bucket. Best way I could think of at the time. |
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Only a loli to protect from another loli.
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I remember Gangsta saying that though; otherwise I'd think you were the one who made it up Another thing JB; Beth is the one controlling Alicia. Alicia has no mind of her own when she's awakened, Beth controls her like she controls a RC toy car. Without Beth, Alicia would be completely mindless. Last edited by Shiek927; 2009-06-16 at 15:41. |
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Rofl, my point being, it makes sense that Alicia would lose control like that. Luciella went off on her own because she had a mind of her won, Alicia does not.
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