2011-02-15, 04:31 | Link #7861 | |
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I know, we could be having this conversation for nothing But I would like to believe that something must come from Touma's sacrifice, there is no way the people closest to him would not be changed by this- It might not be much, but anything is better than nothing.
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2011-02-15, 05:28 | Link #7862 |
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Dunno what the fuss is about here...it's quite obvious that Touma will make a return. When? Who knows, but he will return given the rather obvious foreshadowing (one only has to look at 'Never Found The Body'). Funnily enough, it would be considered very bad writing for Kamachi to not "revive" Touma given all the loose ends still present in the story concerning him.
Though at least now with Touma gone, we'll get to see how the people he affected reacts to their illusion being broken. Well that and some character development from magic side folks (hopefully) now that the star has left the stage with the fans clamoring for an encore; which they'll get so just enjoy the show? |
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Touma will be back, and I suspect that is when Laura's plan will start to go into action. For now, the Magic side is still recovering, while the Science side has suffered almost zero losses. When the Magic side has completely rebuilt, and Magic vs Science will happen again... that is when Touma will return. He is the face of Magic vs Science, after all. But whether as a Hero or Villain; that will have to wait for when the time comes.
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Have you seriously forgotten Crowley's grand plan? About the Artificial Heaven, eradicating magic, about the Imaginary Number District: Five Elements Institute, about Angels and what they represent, about being able to surpass Aiwass... Even the comparison between the Star of Bethlehem and AC. Combine all these with his talk with Fiamma in Volume 22 and you can pretty much piece together what he has in store. Quote:
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For the record though, writers/directors can tend to mix their own stuff up. For example, Gundam 00 director Mizushima sets up Sergei Smironov as a great tactician but shows him to be only a mediocre pilot. Later, he totally contradicts his own work by saying Sergei is one of the series' top two pilots in an interview, even though Sergei was shown to be mediocre at best and constantly being outperformed by his subordinate Soma. I'm just saying, sometimes directors and writers lose sight of their own work, not that Kamachi is an idot and can't be trusted; the author says Shiage and Accelerator are main characters and I don't dispute that at all, but almost everything in the novel material, Kamachi's own work, revolves around/is traced back to Touma. Quote:
And by "result in conflict," exactly what would Toma have done to stop her had she not just suddenly lost her character there, and decided to go with him? The guy is more than smart enough to realize it would be a waste of what little energy he has to try and stop her, especially when he had nothing to stop her with. IB wouldn't do him much good in stopping Mikoto from following him. Quote:
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That quote is filled with reason for why she let him go, but not a thing about why she didn't think "But I don't want to see him get hurt, so I'll go help him!" EDIT: Meh, I think we're getting a bit off of the originally intended topic here. (Touma coming back or not)
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2011-02-15, 08:53 | Link #7865 | |
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2011-02-15, 09:50 | Link #7866 | ||
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meh, we *do* know that she'd be pretty much useless against accelerator and kakine. And we know she'd be useless against Gabriel and Aiwass and Fiamma, who are much more powerful than accelerator...
Acqua is the guy who makes saints look like weaklings, the same saints who are compared to nukes and who's descriptions make them look a hell of a lot more powerful than "normal" level 5...heck we have Hamazura, the guy who was a member of ITEM and thus knows Mugino fairly well, comment on how Acqua's power was far greater than any level 5.... Quote:
This is no longer a character driven plot, but a story driven plot(or at least, it seems to be going in that way), Touma himself no longer needs to be the focus for it to work, nor is he even necessary anymore: IB is and IB could come back without Touma... Quote:
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2011-02-15, 10:06 | Link #7867 | |
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Mikoto is strong. As strong as a normal esper can do. Touma can be gone for a volume or 2 and the story wouldn't be effected that much. The story or the focus of story should be from now on the age of horus and the state of kamijou. With the defeat of roman catholics the age of osiris is already been defeated.
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It has became her nickname, isn't?
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And overall nobody has a control over her mind like the one on Index. Mikoto still has protectors. Quote:
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I'm going to trim down the walls of text and just do quick answers.
Why do you need to know right off the bat? Why? Are you not familiar with what happened in Volumes 3-4-5, 5-6-7-8, SS1-14-15, 14-15-16 and 18-19-20? Quote:
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And just for the record, convincing Mikoto to let him go is practically the same as convincing her to stay out of the fight since it was done in a way that told her to go home and let Touma fight alone. A longer speech that will surely break her resolve, like he always does. He could even do it the way he did in the Sisters arc. Violence is not the only answer to everything. Quote:
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Yes, you do. Sorry. Also, the HQ version of the new volume cover is already available on Haimura's site. Spoiler for large image:
She really does look like Frenda's little sister or something.
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2011-02-15, 12:16 | Link #7871 |
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even if it would be somewhat dissapointing, i think touma's death wouldnt affect the overall series, i accept that touma is none of the best things of the series, but the series can still go on and i think that would add a suspense factor(if the "main"and a liked one at that, died, anyone could be next).
my specullation migth be that toumas body will appear but with another personality, im not sure if that will mean he is dead or alive...
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2011-02-15, 13:04 | Link #7873 | |
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2011-02-15, 14:10 | Link #7875 |
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We don't know yet if IB is tied to Kamijou Touma's soul or body, volume 22 implied that IB is there to seal 'something' inside Touma's body
so technically, it could be possible for IB to exist without the person known as 'Kamijou Touma', so long as the body is still there... |
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