2003-11-19, 00:13 | Link #83 | |
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I also think *all* the creeps who work in that corporation should be gassed, but you can't deny that Jose and Hilsher sincerely care for Henrietta and Triela. It raises an interesting point: are Jose and Hilsher better than Jan because they're nice to their charges? All of them order their "sisters" to commit terrible acts. Maybe Jan is the less hypocrit of all, treating Rico like a tool, which is the way the other two end up using the girls, teddy bears and stargazing notwithstanding. |
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2003-11-19, 00:26 | Link #84 | |
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2003-11-19, 02:26 | Link #87 |
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[quote] Now, Triela doesn't look older than 13 to me, which could place her outside the age of the girls being smuggled and I don't see why smuggling 6-yr old girls is useful. [\quote]
Aside from what others have said, don't forget this is a show where a child of that age can be turned into the ultimate killing machine. I kind of took the smuggling as a sign that, properly conditioned, children may be useful "tools" for all kinds of nasty things. As for Mario's musume I think that idea's a bit daft. On one side you have the likelyhood that he just wanted to give a gift to the girl that helped him *as well* as his daughter. On the other, you'd have to believe he went through all that to deliver a present to someone who was right beside him the whole time! Not to mention all the other logical problems with that. After all, even before they met he was trying to get to his daughter (it's the whole reason he was on the loose) so how could he possibly only discover her identity after that? Remember he wanted to spend Christmas with his daughter (and not just give her a gift) because he had promised her. He obviously was not a stranger to her. |
2003-11-19, 02:44 | Link #88 |
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Yeah, its pretty obvious that Triela is not Mario's daughter. The evidence is all there against it, but there will always be one or two people who will argue otherwise. Those people are deluded conspiracy theorists.
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2003-11-19, 02:51 | Link #89 | |
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Triela and especially Henrietta seem to be treated as people and not machines. I think this will be important in the long run. |
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2003-11-19, 02:58 | Link #90 |
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Yeah i agree that the facts are very much in favor of Triela not being Mario's Daughter. The possibility of her being his daughter just seems to round about and not straight on. The rest of the show has been pretty straight foward. To say that she is daughter, you have to come up with some elaborate scheme of things just like (no offense) the person stated above. This is Gunslinger Girl not a John Grisam work. Not to pick on you but c'mon the facts are totally obvious.
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2003-11-19, 07:11 | Link #91 |
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Well call me a deluded conpiracy theorist but im stil sticking with it. Unless I see it in the manga that clearly state to me that he is not the father then im still a deluded conspiracy theorists.
Now thats out of the way. I agree with the poster who said that Rico might self destruct. Im also thinking that John might be the first brother to die out of the brother of the five girls that were shown. Damn I wished I found out about the Manga sooner. Last edited by Gabriel710; 2003-11-19 at 07:24. |
2003-11-19, 17:05 | Link #92 |
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Tragedy...
I think if you look at the series as something akin to a Shakespearian Tragedy, you can get some perspective, even only four eps in.
I think Jose is our tragic hero. He has a deep flaw that brings alot of his basic character too light. That flaw, which I think is his unwavering loyalty, is also his strongest quality. It both serves and abuses that which he holds most dearest. Henrietta. I have to go out on a limb and state what I believe in. Would it have been better to leave her as he found her. Broken and suicidal. If the only other option was too make her an assassin, then yes. He took something that was broken and made it into something that the corporation sees as a resource. The little girl still wants to grow up. Look at the tagline for the series. Well, I just realized that I am preaching again. So I am going to shut up. |
2003-11-19, 17:45 | Link #93 | |
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About the Triela/Mario discussion, I'll only add this: the idea of them being related never crossed my mind. It was pretty clear, at least for me.
About the spoiler, maybe we should do like they do with other series: we have this thread with spoiler tags for general GSG discussion and we open a new thread when a new episode is available to talk about it and spoiler tags won't be necessary. Quote:
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Rico has a harsh and unforgiving relation with her only human contact. She's still a sweet child and gets along well with her little girlfriends, but when the chips are down, there's no doubt whose side she will be. I see here the seeds for a future conflict that will be even more heartwrenching than anything we have seen so far. We still have to learn about Claes and Angelica, hopefully in the following episodes, and the possible road might appear more clearly. On the long run, Rico will become completely dehumanized, and from the Corp. and Jan's viewpoint, a more effective weapon. Of course, I could also argue that Jose and Hilsher care more for their sister and might try to save them from the more dangeorus missions. Jan, being the uncaring jerk he's, probably won't care and might need "replacements" more often (the jerk!) |
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2003-11-19, 19:07 | Link #94 |
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I find this whole show quite distrubing as I do with Noir. But this show is 10X more distrubing because of what they actually put these young girls through, it makes you think what the hell the writers/directors were thinking. But nontheless I find this show very interesting almost like watching Narutaru again.
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2003-11-19, 19:17 | Link #95 | |
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2003-11-19, 22:16 | Link #97 | |
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lol a fall of child abuse, Not yet were still in the season of ecchi I think. Still alot more ecchi series coming out.
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2003-11-20, 00:18 | Link #99 | |
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