2012-02-16, 13:02 | Link #122 | |
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I was making more of a general statement about how things work in general rather than the particular case the class is facing this year.Just to be sure I understand Forsaken_Infinity. To get back to the particular case,it still baffles me they forgot about Kouichi.His name was on the roster sent to people before the term began. So on the first day if they did a rollcall they'd realise he was absent and yet the number of desks was right. Unless of course he's the extra and the documents have been altered to put his name there when it wasn't before.
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2012-02-17, 15:57 | Link #123 | |
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2012-02-18, 10:51 | Link #124 | |
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So either he's the Another or the class didn't notice his name on the roster in the first day of school.
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2012-02-18, 13:39 | Link #126 | |
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If it's on a roster made back in March,why wouldn't it be on the first day of school? Or he was supposed to transfer in late april but maybe that was known well in advance.
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2012-02-18, 13:59 | Link #127 | |
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2012-02-22, 21:02 | Link #132 | |
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FWIW Japanese doesn't usually specify gender when talking about people. Because of the name "Misaki" and the fact that they mentioned physical attributes, the translators probably figured it safe to assume that it was a girl. What the characters were saying in the earlier episodes would literally translate to be things like "that child" when referring to the Misaki from 26 years ago. All the same, Japanese speakers would probably assume that Misaki was a girl, too, although I don't recall anyone definitively making the claim that Misaki was a girl (but I may have missed it). It's a limitation of the fansubs that they initially referred to Misaki as "she," which made it seem as if the gender was fully determined as a fact. The translators probably weren't aware of what lay ahead in the series; now we'll probably see Misaki referred to as a "he."
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2012-02-23, 21:19 | Link #133 | |
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"According to the L/N readers, CR subs are incorrect in the sense that the prologue in the light novel did not use a gender specific pronoun to refer to Misaki who died 26 years ago. The people responsible for the CR subs either assumed that she was female, or they know something we don't." So, until we get some proof from the writers we will have to wait on that deduction. On another note, the guy in the bar that went on the school trip and stopped the killings. He stated: "The curse that year wasn't..." "It wasn't my fault." "I saved them all." "I saved them!" "I knew I had to tell them! So that's why..." "I left it there." Make's me wonder... He couldn't remember what he left there, even though it was that important that he remembered all these years and will be a life altering experience for the rest of his life. So, I stop to think... If this "Another" has no idea "It" is dead, then there has to be some "Force" that is pulling the strings. What "If" this "Force" changed/manipulated this guys memory to make them go to this shrine for some (obscure) reason? Last edited by Voxxen; 2012-02-23 at 21:37. |
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2012-02-24, 14:32 | Link #134 |
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I'm convinced that the Another isn't doing anything apart from existing. I'm also going with the librarian guy's theory that there is no malicious entity at work here. It's more like, the mere existence of something that shouldn't be is causing kind of a strain on reality that people start dying "coincidentally" (note that none of the deaths, however unlikely, are impossible).
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2012-02-25, 03:42 | Link #135 | |
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1: "Another" behind the murders? (NOT likely) As I've started, thinking about the events leading to the seventh episode. From what we have been told, "It", Itself does not know its dead. So how can someone who goes about their normal lives have anything to do with these killings?(Not to mention the pure coincidental accidents they seem to be.) I retract my statements about the "Another" changing form, cause there is no evidence. (Idk where i even drew that idea) Which draws me to the question, "If" the "Another" is not (causing/apart/or even knows the reason) of the murders. A: Does "It" come back every year a new person? B: If you kill "It", can you tell if "It's" the real "Another"? C: On the field trip one of the classes stopped it. Did they find the root cause of the "Force" behind the murders? (Still, not convinced on the teacher incident) If they did, what could they have left behind that seems to be so terrifying? (If it is not a trap of some kind, a lot can go wrong on a bus up a mountain) D: What if the "Another" finds out it IS the "Another"? E: Is "It" a victim in this object as well? F: Could the "Another" be a person given identify's or traits of the killed victims? I have some more, but I don't want to go overboard on these random questions that probably won't get answered until later episodes. (Though, it is fun to speculate) 2: I do agree that the only person that seems to have extended knowledge about the incidents seems to be the librarian... He also has that... I wouldn't say guilty, but misleading kind of feel to him as well. Like he has an ulterior motive? Anyone with me? 3: I still think that glass incident is big... Somehow, BIG... No other murder has had even a close chance of survival. 4: Kouichi... Oh, Kouichi... Earlier in the series the students stated, The classroom is "more closer to death", than any other classrooms. Maybe with how close Kouichi and the reaper have been in the past, he has some weight on this "Force"? 5: It's almost like a fork in the road, this "Force" builds up some kind of trigger and sets fate on its way, there seems to always be a trigger in these killings. Not always from an external force, but from some very strong emotion that grips the character as well, kind of like the flight or fight instinct, but there is of course more to it. It's almost like a game of shogi (chess), where this "Force" plays against that persons "Fate" and there are times in these killings where they might be avoided. The girl that got skewed through the throat for instance, she could have swallowed her panic finding the twin duo together and suppressed her fear for her mother (though it seemed as if her panic out weighed her fear), walking down the closer stairs and possibly avoiding her "Fate". (Granted, when we humans feel that emotional it is a seemingly impossible thing to do... Much less on our minds... Why did i write this?) Tell me your thoughts. Last edited by Voxxen; 2012-02-25 at 04:04. |
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