2006-06-12, 18:39 | Link #22 | |
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I believe the decrease in number of DRAGOON units is also to help more people be able to use them effectively, in addition to the computer aid system.
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2006-06-12, 21:45 | Link #25 | |
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Were the members of the TSA not against a bombardment of GENESIS with their ship-based guns because it had multiple layers of PSA? If PSA is useless against beam weapons, then why would beam bombardment with capital ship arsenals be out of the question? I mean, if GENESIS was armoured UC-style with thick amounts of real armour ala The O, I would understand. PSA, on the other hand, does jacksquat against beams and positrons, so why not just shoot at it? I cannot remember the reason, please
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2006-06-12, 22:07 | Link #26 | |
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I think its been mentioned many times in this forum that Genesis's Phase Shift was so strong or at such large scales, it rendered even beam attacks useless.
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2006-06-13, 18:52 | Link #29 |
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Like some of the tech in CE we dont exactly know how Phase Shift armour works.
All we know is that depending on how much power Phase Shift Armour is given, its strength can vary from providing protection from shell-firing artillery or melee weapons, all the way to also providing protection from beam weapons and positron weapons. |
2006-06-13, 19:11 | Link #30 | |
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1. Kira starting to punk out Shinn, Rey breaks off from Athrun and comes up. 2. Beam slashing, Rey reveals he's Rau's clone, SF dodging Legend's beams. 3. Kira picking off DRAGOONS left and right, then some more beam locking. 4. "You are yourself...not Rau." 5. GGPO RAINBOW GUNS V2. Did they change something in Final Plus? I didn't actually watch that one. But the fight in the original ep. 50 was pretty one-sided...I mean, he didn't even take out any of Kira's DRAGOONS, let alone damage him in any way. |
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2006-06-13, 19:26 | Link #31 | |
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iirc a technician at Yachin said something about the absorbtion rate when the beams hit so that leads me to believe it hit directly. Speaking of which, just how did regular missiles destroy neo genesis? It didn't come with phase shift? |
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2006-06-13, 19:33 | Link #32 | |
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2006-06-13, 21:10 | Link #33 | |
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2006-06-13, 22:48 | Link #35 |
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I don't understand why he couldn't even do this against Providence - why couldn't Kira just to the multiple lock-on on all the Dragoon pods? Were they just too fast?
If Kira was able to take them down with the beam rifle, why couldn't he just use all his guns and take them all down? (SF has at least 13 guns to take down each of Legend's 10 pods) |
2006-06-13, 23:44 | Link #37 |
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SF>>freedom in terms of space combat. 8 more goons=very yes.
And if Kira took on Rau in SF instead of vanilla Freedom, Rau would have gotten his sorry ass kicked in three minutes tops. Providence was OMG COOL because Kira had one gun and Freedom's beamspammage to fight against dragoons. In SF, Kira had DRAGOONS to fight against dragoons. Instead of dodging and manually destroying every dragoon one by one, why not just whoops, do it right back in SF? Legend got owned because Rey sucks as a pilot. And because there is absolutely nothing it has on SF. SF>Legend in every single way, except possibly semantics, but as far as we've seen, SF > legend, and that's that. In fact, has any other gundam ever gotten BEAMFRAGGED?
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2006-06-14, 02:48 | Link #39 |
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Legend, is a better mobile suit than Providence when it comes to maneuverabilty. Of course it loses in fire power but makes up for it in defensive purposes. The flight backpack makes angles for complex dodging manuevers possible instead of latteral movement on the Providence. It just came up against the wrong opponent. Aside from Kira not many pilots have what it takes to overcome the Dragoon System. Its really no mystery on how SF beat Legend flawlessly. How do you think Kira thought Rey was Rau in the first place. Surely, not the newtype flash. Rey use similar tactics with his dragoons that Rau use. Legend was very aggressive in that fight with SF, putting it on the defensive many times. Where Rey's focus is to take down the SF instead of its dragoons, Kira was taken down Legends dragoons while dodging and countering enemy fire. There's no pilot in the C.E. universe better at this than Kira. Taking full advantage of SF superior maneuverability, it would only be a matter of time, before Kira would take down a significant number of Legends Dragoons then look to take down the main unit itself. As, for Kira's magic phrase, let's just say its an eye for an eye, Rey wasn't really quiet during the fight himself. He just lost focus and Kira got the better of him. If you think Freedom and SF rainbow is called beam spammage what in the world do you call what Legend and Providence is doing? Super Spammage?
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2006-06-14, 04:25 | Link #40 |
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Legend is a superior suit compared to Providence, other than that Providence uses Nuclear Jammer Canceller. Legend is the second design after Providence and it makes up for Providence's weakness (which is close combat). First off Legend has dragoons which includes beam javalins, has a beam sword, an has a beam immited shield (Providence doesn't edven have a shield)
Actually i actually the Providence better because it looks better compared the the Legend. so i'm not taking any sides, but stating the fact.... -__________-||| |
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