2012-10-28, 04:54 | Link #2562 | |
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As with most environmental pollutions - civilizing radiation can be regarded as such - the dangers are not imminent. The risks accumulate over time. There is certainly a higher than average risk to develop cancer if you were living in the region and eat local agricultural products for all your live (more so when you were born and raised there). Thats not so much because of the slightly increased background radiation there though. The real problem are long living isotopes. Tritium for example is rather short lived (12 years half life) isotope and can be very fast catabolized. Iodine (131) for example is a little bit more dangerous, since it needs longer to be catabolized but it has an extremely short half life (8 days). Now, stuff like cesium (137) is very nasty, since it has a longer half life than tritium (30 years) and the human body does not really catabolize it. Thus the body is more likely to accumulate these isotopes over time. To a point were there is a statistically significant risk of developing cancer early.
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2012-10-28, 04:59 | Link #2563 | |
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Going for hyperbole doesn't help your case. Yes, it was a preventable accident. Yes, it is bad. But trying to exaggerate things for your own benefit does not help anyone.
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2012-10-28, 05:45 | Link #2564 |
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aside the sillyness of my location , but yea graphite core in Chernobyl was combustable meaning more radiation, and contamination of the area was more widespread than in Japan.
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2012-10-28, 11:59 | Link #2565 |
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Fukushima was downplayed the shit out off. If you look at numbers instead of listening to governments trying to stop panic, fukushima has already released 70% of the radiation of chernobyl, and keeps releasing more everyday due to the large quantities of nuclear fuel left (~1000 vs ~100 of chernobyl).
And unlike chernobyl fukushima is right next to the ocean, contaminating the water to a scale that has never happened before. It's only a question a time before it is acknowledged as the #1 worst nuclear event on earth, because it is. Last edited by james0246; 2012-10-28 at 13:41. |
2012-10-28, 13:02 | Link #2566 | |
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radiation and radioactive particles are not all the same, nor are the fuel system in Fukushima and Chernobyl even remotely the same, and the fact that you can't even seem to grasp that basic fact is quite telling. |
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2012-11-03, 03:56 | Link #2567 | |
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Spoiler for Fukushima + Vice...:
And some post-brain bleach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWsElfOqVLU (I'm not sure how to embed youtube videos and the share button is not working properly for me but ok) |
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2012-11-03, 05:24 | Link #2568 |
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It is really a shame that nuclear power gets again bad reputation because of carelessness. Japan sits on area where some tectonic plate boundaries are located. This means high chance for earthquakes because collisions of those plates make earthquakes. Also Japan has quite small land area and it is surrounded by ocean. This means that tsunamies can reach populated areas easier and seawater is more optimal method for nuclear power plant cooling. It is then very likely that water masses could reach nuclear power plant area. These should be obvious facts for people who design and maintain nuclear power plants.
I don't know, if there is any known methods to protect nuclear power plants againts earthquakes and tsunamies, but it would be quite reckless to take such risks, if there is not. Pretty much anything can backfire badly, if poorly executed. As far as I know, both nuclear power accidents happened because of clear mistakes, not because of chaotic nature of nuclear power itself. People die early and suffer additional health damage because of pollution. I wonder, how much fossil-fuel power plants are responsible of it? Nuclear power probably gives more rapid pollution results, if accidents happen, but fossil-fuel creates slower and unavoidable pollution all the time.
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2012-11-03, 06:59 | Link #2569 | |
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To be honest out of that 13mins video, 10mins was on the photographer blabbing about this life story and his philosophy. The body was half submerged and the abandoned towns (that was interesting) depicted a real life 'ghost town', but it wasn't anything overly traumatic (Probably cause I've seen worse reports, slide-shows, pictures and heard stories of those who went in person), methinks some part of me has desensitised to it or since it was partly my reality for quite some time last year, that sobriety has already sunk into me. If nothing else, I feel for those who lived in the evacuation zone who are still living lives as refugees 18months later, actually have homes to go to but can't cause of the poisoning and live a life of uncertainty and tedium. In a sense it's emotionally and mentally destroying that having to rebuild your house again but at least you can move forward. PS: Haikea, they said the plants were built to withstand a M8 quake. No human being in their right mind could have ever predicted a M9 to occur at the very epicentre that it did, just goes to show Mother Nature > human beings. I believe Sandy is a recent example of that, but at least they had warning days in advance to prepare as much as possible for the storm, (or get the hell out) compared to a 10-15m high tsunami wiping out thousands with only about 10mins to escape. Natural disasters are tragic but sadly commonplace all over.
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2013-01-14, 06:26 | Link #2570 |
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Came across this news article tonight, and it's about the Coming of Age Day.
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311dis...AJ201301140075 What nearly made me choke up while reading is that... some of their best friends were never able to see this day.
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2013-01-14, 07:05 | Link #2571 | |
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We are fortunate in the modern times, that we don't have to think being alive long enough to become adults is a big deal. But occasionally, in times like these, we remember why these events exist. We can't take our lives for granted. The Coming of Age ceremony is done in this case, for exactly its intended purpose; to celebrate the survivors, and to remember those we lose on the way.
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2013-03-05, 15:36 | Link #2572 |
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Some people have been turning to exorcists in the devastated area. Make me wonder if we'll have to do the same when the finally open the "Freedom Tower" in New York.
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Nation marks second year since calamity
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2013-03-11, 13:48 | Link #2576 | |
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Women of Fukushima
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2013-07-09, 00:26 | Link #2578 | |
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Levels of toxic groundwater spike in Fukushima
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2013-09-03, 04:56 | Link #2579 | |
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Abe to end 'ad hoc' response to Fukushima nuclear crisis
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