2011-12-02, 15:52 | Link #21 | |
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Base in Indonesia? Come on, Man. Indonesia has some riots targeting Chinese descendants after the south east asia financial crisis in the late 90s. China also supported the independence of East Timor. The relations have improved, but military base? |
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2011-12-02, 19:24 | Link #23 |
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The shadow war in Syria
"Target Syria - the strategic prize that outstrips Libya. The stage is set. The stakes
couldn't be higher. Libya 2.0 equals Syria? It's more like Libya 2.0 remix. With the same R2P (''responsibility to protect'') rationale - starring civilians bombed into ''democracy''. But with no UN Security Council resolution (Russia and China will veto it). Instead, Turkey shines, fanning the flames of civil war." See: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/ML02Ak01.html |
2011-12-02, 21:53 | Link #24 |
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Well let's see--oppressive dictator uses military force to crush dissidents? Just remove his military forces via a few well-placed bombs. I don't know about you, but look at what NATO did in Libya. I think we won some goodwill there, and didn't take a single foot on the ground, except for the time when an F-15E crashed due to mechanical failures.
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2011-12-03, 03:58 | Link #25 |
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^ Many belive than there was members of some special forces at least giving training if not more , on libyan. And to think than it will need only a fews bombs, even well placed... you will need more than that.
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2011-12-04, 18:08 | Link #26 | |
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30-40 years, China will be the 'peacekeeping' force being sent to third worlds and such. |
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2011-12-04, 19:47 | Link #29 | |
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China is too self-sufficient to be a leech. Thus it will be difficult for it to have an international empire like the US.
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2011-12-04, 20:52 | Link #30 | |
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And it also needs Oil too... |
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2011-12-04, 22:22 | Link #33 | |
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So long as China doesn't invade UK or buy out the ICE or Brent, they would need alternative energy for the long run.
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2011-12-04, 22:34 | Link #34 |
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Let's agree that whether China will have military projection capability in another decade (optimistically speaking) is not much of relevance to global or local power balance today, and even less relevance to this thread.
As for the Syria situation, it is clear that China are against foreign intervention. It is consistent with the Chinese doctrine of valuing sovereignty over everything else. Personally, I don't think China has much interest in Syria, and it doesn't have much influence to wield in that part of the world. However, China will veto UN resolutions sponsored by the west, simply because it doesn't want to see Nato do whatever they like, and more importantly, because Russia will veto it. So it is like a "I scratch your back, and hopefully you'll scratch mine" kind of thing. |
2011-12-04, 23:13 | Link #35 | |
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It doesn't want other countries meddling in it's own affairs, so it vetoes all meddling, unless under the most severe circumstances. |
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2011-12-05, 00:22 | Link #38 | |
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The stance they take is the only way they're able to continue their human rights abuses and certain suspect activities. It's a fairly consistent position, anyway. "We don't delve into your matters, you don't delve into ours". Minding your own business isn't such a bad thing anyway. |
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