Code Geass - Q & A

[Splendiferous]

I've got a question not specific to the anime, but relating to its contents:

A while back I happened upon a website with a really fantastic comparative character analysis of Lelouche and Suzaku, comparing their relative moral outlooks, similarities and differences.

I thought I'd saved the link, but it appears I haven't, and all my numerous attempts to find it through searching have so far been unsuccessful. I was wondering whether anyone on these boards had come across something similar and still had a link

I wish I could say something more specific about it, except that it was very thorough and extensive breakdown of the two character's underlying motivations and moral and ethical outlooks throughout the series.

If anyone has read something similar to what I'm describing and still has the link lying around, I'd really appreciate it if you could reply to this.

Thanks and best

-Splendiferous

[Blue_Mercy]

Originally Posted by Splendiferous

I've got a question not specific to the anime, but relating to its contents:

A while back I happened upon a website with a really fantastic comparative character analysis of Lelouche and Suzaku, comparing their relative moral outlooks, similarities and differences.

I thought I'd saved the link, but it appears I haven't, and all my numerous attempts to find it through searching have so far been unsuccessful. I was wondering whether anyone on these boards had come across something similar and still had a link

I wish I could say something more specific about it, except that it was very thorough and extensive breakdown of the two character's underlying motivations and moral and ethical outlooks throughout the series.

If anyone has read something similar to what I'm describing and still has the link lying around, I'd really appreciate it if you could reply to this.

Thanks and best

-Splendiferous

http://community.livejournal.com/shi...to/183946.html

I found this livejournal to be a very good explanation of both characters. When reading you can tell the writer is a little bit leaning toward Suzaku, but bias is something that won't entirely dissapear even in the best debates.

[Dann of Thursday]

I would like to have something confirmed. I came across this little blurb regarding C.C. and wanted to see if it was true or not.

This was noted in a post a long ways back that the nun from the flashes was reported to be the original C.C.. Was this really confirmed?

[ashlay]

Originally Posted by Dann of Thursday

I would like to have something confirmed. I came across this little blurb regarding C.C. and wanted to see if it was true or not.

This was noted in a post a long ways back that the nun from the flashes was reported to be the original C.C.. Was this really confirmed?

It's from the DS game. When Lelouch is watching the episode 11 sequence and sees the nun he says something like "CC? no, this is someone else..." and when he sees the crying girl with the geass in her eye, he says "this isn't CC either."

interpret that as you will. Koshimizu probably has what the exact lines if you're still interested.

[Dann of Thursday]

Well the thing said it was the original C.C. so she may not look the same now. Still, those lines from the game appear to be accurate for the most part so I guess it may not be her.

Thanks.

[ashlay]

Originally Posted by Dann of Thursday

Well the thing said it was the original C.C. so she may not look the same now. Still, those lines from the game appear to be accurate for the most part so I guess it may not be her.

Thanks.

That was from a magazine from a good long while ago. I wouldn't count on it compared to an official game that came out more recently. Things change, and assumptions are often made.

[Dann of Thursday]

Yes that is true. That magazine was also before the whole Shirley arc with Mao. Some of the comments were also from Kawaguchi and he seems to be vague on details sometimes.

[siber222000]

oh yeah, another question, since lelouch has perm geas, during 2nd season, will he wear sunglasses or something to cover it? o_O? *i mean like daily life*

[Dann of Thursday]

Unknown at this point though he has been shown in casual clothes without his Geass activated so maybe he regained control of it or something.

[Koshimizu]

Originally Posted by ashlay

It's from the DS game. When Lelouch is watching the episode 11 sequence and sees the nun he says something like "CC? no, this is someone else..." and when he sees the crying girl with the geass in her eye, he says "this isn't CC either."

interpret that as you will. Koshimizu probably has what the exact lines if you're still interested.

Yep. That's what he said.


I think it's the PASH! magazine Dann's talking about, since that's the only magazine that talked about the nun. But what's written here are: "Mysteries of C.C. The nun in the flashback of C.C. has a geass mark on the forehead. What's her relationship with C.C.?" And that's it.
It could have been a misinterpretion of this... Since I don't recall any official source (including FO & FY) that said she's C.C.

[Dann of Thursday]

Originally Posted by Koshimizu

Yep. That's what he said.
I think it's the PASH! magazine Dann's talking about, since that's the only magazine that talked about the nun. But what's written here are:
"Mysteries of C.C. The nun in the flashback of C.C. has a geass mark on the forehead. What's her relationship with C.C.?" And that's it.
It could have been a misinterpretion of this.
I don't recall any official source (including FO & FY) that said she's C.C.

Ah, it was a misinterpretation than. And yeah it was from Pash!. Thanks for clearing that up entirely.

[-KarumA-]

hmm
does Toudou know that Suzaku kileld his father..?
i forgot =3


i think he does.. since the Kyoto group knows about it and since Toudou was close to Suzaku as a teacher...
but i just want to be certain thats all

[ashlay]

Originally Posted by -KarumA-

hmm
does Toudou know that Suzaku kileld his father..?
i forgot =3

Toudou was somewhat in cahoots with Kirihara, so I'd say he probably knew the truth too.

Then again, Toudou isn't exactly someone you'd call passionate, so I don't think it'd make a huge difference to his relationship with Suzaku whether he knew the truth or not.

[-KarumA-]

Originally Posted by ashlay

Toudou was somewhat in cahoots with Kirihara, so I'd say he probably knew the truth too.

Then again, Toudou isn't exactly someone you'd call passionate, so I don't think it'd make a huge difference to his relationship with Suzaku whether he knew the truth or not.

thanks for answering so quickly..
now i can continiue my fic chapter with that info X3

[iwubanime]

I just finished watching this series and have been reading the board and I noticed a bunch of terms I didn't remember seeing in the anime. It is very possible I missed them...

Possible spoilers?

Spoiler:

What is this World of C? I don't remember hearing about it.

Who is that Wakamoto guy? I'm probably butchering his name but he seems to be similar to C.C and V.V?

What is the thought elevator and what is the importance of it?

And also why was Kallen shaking so much at the end of episode 25? I understand that it was probably traumatizing to find out who Zero was but it seemed to be a little abnormal so I wondered if there was something else to it.

Lastly, why did Lelouch say those things to Suzuka at the end of 25? I know he is somewhat evil but I thought he did care for the people of Japan...

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by iwubanime

I just finished watching this series and have been reading the board and I noticed a bunch of terms I didn't remember seeing in the anime. It is very possible I missed them...

Possible spoilers?

Spoiler:

What is this World of C? I don't remember hearing about it.

Who is that Wakamoto guy? I'm probably butchering his name but he seems to be similar to C.C and V.V?

Spoiler:

Don't know what the world of C is, but C.C. mentions it when she tells Mao to wait there and shoots him.

Apparently... Wakamoto=Emperor of Britannia...

[ashlay]

Originally Posted by iwubanime

I just finished watching this series and have been reading the board and I noticed a bunch of terms I didn't remember seeing in the anime. It is very possible I missed them...

Possible spoilers?

Spoiler:

Spoiler for :

What is this World of C? I don't remember hearing about it.

Who is that Wakamoto guy? I'm probably butchering his name but he seems to be similar to C.C and V.V?

What is the thought elevator and what is the importance of it?

And also why was Kallen shaking so much at the end of episode 25? I understand that it was probably traumatizing to find out who Zero was but it seemed to be a little abnormal so I wondered if there was something else to it.

Lastly, why did Lelouch say those things to Suzuka at the end of 25? I know he is somewhat evil but I thought he did care for the people of Japan...

Spoiler:

-Largely Unknown. However, it seems to be a means of communication between C.C., V.V., Marianne, and person or persons unknown. So whenever you hear C.C. talking to people who aren't there, that's the World of C she's talking through (probably... >_>)

-You spelled it right. Norio Wakamoto is the voice actor of Emperor Charles di Britannia. Charles di Britannia is the 98th Emperor of Britannia, age 63, and Lelouch's father. He talks to dead people in a fashion that seems a whole lot like C.C.'s communications, he's building something called a mental elevator, and apparently he knows absolutely everything that's been going on in the show, including that Lelouch is Zero, but didn't even bother to involve himself until episode 24. As you of course saw.

The 3rd ending credits suggests he's closely related to V.V., but since his age is given and he does look old, I doubt he's immortal like C.C. and (apparently) V.V.

-She thinks it's impossible for Lelouch to be Zero (from episode 3), there are people pointing guns at each other, Lelouch has a (fake...) bomb strapped to his chest, Suzaku's screaming something about magic powers and Lelouch killing everyone in the specially administered district, and meanwhile back in Tokyo everyone else in the Order is fighting for their lives. That's a hell of a lot of pressure and almost no time to think. Of course Kallen is freaking out.

But given 5 minutes to actually calmly think about it, she'll of course decided all that didn't matter, and that Lelouch is still the best shot at Japan's freedom. Welcome to episode 26. >_>

-Lelouch is doing something he has a tendency to do a lot: he's pretending to be evil to absolve the people he cares about of all responsibility for what's happened. He does the exact same thing with Shirley in 14, and Euphie in 8. Of course Lelouch isn't just using the Japanese, he doesn't send them on suicide missions nor have them fight in battles where he's not right on the front lines too. They're comrades.

But, he says he's just been controlling everyone so Kallen will put all the responsibility on him for the destruction of the district in 22 and 23, or taking control of Ashford in 24, and not blame anything on herself.

[Blue_Mercy]

Originally Posted by iwubanime

I just finished watching this series and have been reading the board and I noticed a bunch of terms I didn't remember seeing in the anime. It is very possible I missed them...

Possible spoilers?

Spoiler:

What is this World of C? I don't remember hearing about it.

Who is that Wakamoto guy? I'm probably butchering his name but he seems to be similar to C.C and V.V?

What is the thought elevator and what is the importance of it?

And also why was Kallen shaking so much at the end of episode 25? I understand that it was probably traumatizing to find out who Zero was but it seemed to be a little abnormal so I wondered if there was something else to it.

Lastly, why did Lelouch say those things to Suzuka at the end of 25? I know he is somewhat evil but I thought he did care for the people of Japan...

Spoiler:

World of C; you have seen it when C.C. makes contact with someone we see a planet and alot of people with the symbol of Geass on it. Possibly the ability to speak to the dead.

Wakamoto refers to the Emperor and not much is known about him except he's the emperor lelouch's father and a real bastard. Relation to C.C. and V.V. unknown if there is one.

Not known or at least I don't know.

Nope you got it right, just shock with Lelouch being Zero.

That has been a big question, but Lelouch despite saying evil things in the end said true things. Which might not have been the best move.

[-KarumA-]

Originally Posted by ashlay

But given 5 minutes to actually calmly think about it, she'll of course decided all that didn't matter, and that Lelouch is still the best shot at Japan's freedom. Welcome to episode 26. >_>

this could still be considered a spoiler between some people, could you tag it?
atleased till sunday =3

[Blue_Mercy]

Is the hype over Code Geass hurting it or helping it?