Command & Conquer 3

[felix]

For me its some thing like:
7/10 win ratio against Brutal Steamroller Nod.
4/10 win ratio against Brutal Steamroller Gdi
* I play as Gdi 90% of the time

All the others are pathetic, mostly the Ai stratagy could be better aligned. Looking at the stats, even tho' he's gathering twice as fast, he's not 100% efficient. My build order is a lot more refined, spending close to exactly what I harvest, with slight expected fluctuations late game. I'm guessing this innaficiency is due to the ai's addaptive nature..

What are these maps that have only bridges as main and only means of access? I also don't recall the ai being so stupid as to not repare it after something like a minute after it was blown. BTW I don't play against screen, just cuz they're to weak early game, especially against infantry, I also don't feel like camping out to either build up super force or let him build up, especially if its a brutal, so could you tell me, does Brutal Scrin really wait that long to build 40 carriers?!.. (I would imagine they would attack you with less and mix in some variaty)

[K. Yamato]

Btw Cats you said that the MK II is actually in it eh? xD Shoot what map? LOL xD

[felix]

I think I saw it on almost all of the big 8 player maps somewhere in the center. =)

You can google for a pic.. there are enough on the net.
Here's one.

Spoiler for EA ruined the mammoth, literaly xP:

I hope they bring it back for the expantion, as a treat in the campaing =)
That would be so sweet.

[USB500]

Originally Posted by Cats

I think I saw it on almost all of the big 8 player maps somewhere in the center. =)

You can google for a pic.. there are enough on the net.
Here's one.

Spoiler for EA ruined the mammoth, literaly xP:

I hope they bring it back for the expantion, as a treat in the campaing =)
That would be so sweet.

what? no way; how dare EA ruin the almighty Mammoth Mark II!

This brings back the memories of Tiberian Sun (which, unfortunately, wasn't completed when I first bought it ). Is it recommended to just stick to the PC version (which, obviously, is what I'm going to buy in near future) or go and try the X360 version?

[felix]

Probably PC.. don't know why, but it looks better from what I'm seing in some previews of the xbox version, like the dev team pumped more effects into it.
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They have hardly ruined it, it's one of the coolest units in the game.
It's also at the center of my lil' GDI anti Nod-Tank spammer stratagy.

And I do mean fast tank spam, as in: ref, pwr, fact (tanks tanks tanks) another fact (tanks tanks tanks), comes to attack at any number will loose them. (3, 4 even 90 )

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Spoiler:

My build order is: ref, pwr, cmdP, tech, (upg th Pwr), sonic, pwr, ref, fact (Mks Mks Mks).... pwr-sonic-fact-Mks from here on. (depends on your needs)
Requires 1 green field (it will never finish! ) The key to this hole stratagy is to forsee the placement of the sonics, and build your structures neer each other ensurcling very very small zones (just enough to place 1 sonic or maybe 1 sonic and 2 infTwr), of course when your sonic is ready place them there.. why?!, because tanks rocket squads etc cannot shout at them withought going thru the buildings first. How many scorps do you need to go thru this defensive?! Hint: more then 300!

Once you have enough mamoths (3 if he suddently went air, 4+ - max 6 if he's still not had enough ) go pwn his damn tank spamming base

Yes the base is extremily weak, you practicly at the mercy of n00bs that know to build more then one refiniry and camp with some defense. But against rushers, like the tank spammer or even the shadow rush, works well, since they screw their economy at the start, and they won't be able to counter in any effective way before you own their base with mammoths, even defensive isn't a viable option for them..

Other GDI stratagie
Infatry Camping: crane, ref, pwr, ref, barak, armor, (upgr inf armor), pwr, ref, barak.. you should already be pumping out rocketment and snipers, placing or holding in que infTwr is advised. When your not in danger tech up quickly and strat building sonics with pwr in front of them.. Build factory (I build 2) and pump juggs. When you have 3 go and own bases with everything you got (Q selects all your units, exept harvesters BTW). This works well against anything but really early tank spam. It is most effective against mass Avatars, Mks, cariers etc. and defending against late tank spam. It also works against shadow team rush, just switch from infantry to pwr and infTwr like crazzy. (try to keep something something like 3 refs up)
When you feel like it Spam Preds and go own his base.
(you should have the better economy)

Note 1: On your like 3 baracks.. but I usually have more later, you should always have something like 99for rocketeers and you should always have 1 new refinery every 1 minute 2 max.
Note 2: Constantly build out, don't build yourself in, buildings are tougher then tanks and provide both cover and constant annoyance for the oposite player, building out is the only way you can meet the resource requaierment anyway. When you attack don't just attack with units build god damn defences in his base, just 3 or 4 pwr plants can take your zone a long way. Building out is also the most effective and easy way to keep your infantry alive and effective. So just build build build like crazzy.
Note 3: Make sure to build zone troopers, so you don't get own by tanks. Don't just place them in your army, preds might get owned by them and your horde of rocket sqd but those damn scorps are just too fast. To beat scorps with them, use the formation move and set them to move in a line in front, use the hold ground on them otherwise as you know in CnC3 the formation will brake as soon as enemy spoted comes up. You can also take them out of attack mode, get into plan mode and set a path in front of your roket sqd horde, longer then the horde-army's width but relativly fin and tight. End it very near to the spot were you sarted it, the line should go red, now you have assigned a patrol path the units will loop there forever, thes is better in open field since the units have a tendancy to form lines as the march and cross each other. Basicly you have a living wall. (it's harder to pull of then you think!). The first stratagy, the formation move, is best used, and easiest used, with Base Spam, your units will just block all tanks..
Note 4: Some of the GDI units are a lil' stupid, you'll have to manage them a lil'. For example, the Juggs, they are probably one of the best units in the entire game, but they are a lil' stupid. They'r own atack radius is decent but they are better used snipers. Unfotunatly given an atack move order or assault move order (A or F that is -- the diffrence is in advancement) they will not use the super advantage they get from snipers (you should always have something like 10-20 btw ) but instead use their own range.. no good!.. so make sure to micro them.. The there is infantry supression, I'm sure everybody knows of the D key (move backwards) so your tank spam, doesn't get owned from the side (+10% dmg) or the back (+50% dmg), but what about the G key?.. when infatry is under heavy fire the drop down, this gives them +20 armor, but reduces their movement to 0, if you try to run away with them they'll get owned as they move at a whoping 1m/hour.. the G key (Force Move) forces them out of squash-me-mode and and you might end up with a much more favorable outcome.

Less Known Info:
Ranks -- A unit gains 1 rank when it kills 3 times it's own worth. Rank 1: +10% dmge & armor. Rank 2: +25% dmg armor. Rank 3 (EA calls this Hero Rank) +50% dmg, armor, atack speed, movement speed etc. =) + auto-regeneration.
How to heal Infatry: -- Tiber- ..uhh I mean.. th GDI Armory.. is the answer.
How to beat Brutals: -- There is no sure way, but there is one map that is just so spoiled that you have 100% chance to beat the bastards. It's name is Red Zone Rampage (4 player), but you might as well think of it as Big Game Hunters from SC. Resources there are insane, and build order is really accelerated. In any case apply Infantry Camping I described above and you can beet them easy. Steamroll steamrollers with just infantry (no need to even bother to ever build the War Factory or to base rush them), ballanced and turtles should be handeled with a base-rush + infatry + jugs. I've beeten all the ai's at everything (units, buildings even resources ). On that map it's almost too easy. By the time I'm finished with him out of my 70 strong rkt sqds something like 40 are damn e-l33t.. and on the score board the ai's kill ratio is 0.02.. which is insanly pathetic compared to results on other maps. It is best not to play this map, or not very often as it can spoil your build order etc. because it's so damn resource rich.

The build order for pred spam and gdi-air-engnr-rush are too obvious.

[problemedchild]

Originally Posted by Cats

For me its some thing like:
7/10 win ratio against Brutal Steamroller Nod.
4/10 win ratio against Brutal Steamroller Gdi
* I play as Gdi 90% of the time

All the others are pathetic, mostly the Ai stratagy could be better aligned. Looking at the stats, even tho' he's gathering twice as fast, he's not 100% efficient. My build order is a lot more refined, spending close to exactly what I harvest, with slight expected fluctuations late game. I'm guessing this innaficiency is due to the ai's addaptive nature..

What are these maps that have only bridges as main and only means of access? I also don't recall the ai being so stupid as to not repare it after something like a minute after it was blown. BTW I don't play against screen, just cuz they're to weak early game, especially against infantry, I also don't feel like camping out to either build up super force or let him build up, especially if its a brutal, so could you tell me, does Brutal Scrin really wait that long to build 40 carriers?!.. (I would imagine they would attack you with less and mix in some variaty)

It's under a two player map. I'm too tired ATM to look it up, but the only way to make ground contact is across two bridges. And if you're playing GDI, those Sonic Towers does wonders against those things. As for the Scrin, it might of been a Turtle match(they tend to not repair bridges), but the amount of air units during that battle was epic. Over 3000 units lost in total on both sides. Of course, that's accounting for the carrier's one shot drones.....

They only way a computer can attack you when both land options are gone is by air. It doesn't take very long, they generally have 3-4 air factors pumping these things out like you wouldn't believe.

[felix]

2 Player Map..
Well there is only one that fits the description I would think. Ground Zero, it has a big crater in the middle with tiberium, but I think that map had 3 bridges.

[problemedchild]

Deadly Sertao. That's the map.

Here is a screenshot of the end. It became so laggy that I pretty much turned everything down to low detail. Still had quite a bit of lag when those 40 carriers rolled by. So the mighty 8800 GTX isn't so mighty after all :<

[felix]

A brief changelog has been posted by Apoc.

Things that catch my eye.

• Rocket Squads get among other things +75% range.. WTF.
  I could already with something like Refinery + Power + Barack (Pump anti-Inf) Baracks (Pump rocket-Sqd) beat even the most rushed scorp rushes, and even manging some base storming early on.. before eventually gettin pwned by anti infantry. I think I might manage more then just minor harassment early on with these new toys. =)
• Foxholes cost 100 Wha! (they were 300 before) and now they're instant deploy on the spot too and and they have like 2 slots.. Yay.. I used these things while in the campain but gave up on them because they were hard to use.. but now.. they sound sooo much better. (forgot to mention they now have to be completly destroyed for infantry to step out of them)
• No more build radius for things like pwr and other stuff.. mhh tight bases :/
  I guess this is anti-base crawling, lucky for me I always crawled with refs too.. and they ddn't get the nerf. =)
• Orca +50 dmg.. bikes -200% anti air. =) Yay. (note: it seems there was a 200% anti air buff but it was removed)
• Scrin anti-infantry sounds tougher now.
• Repair drones will home each on a seperate unit.
• Scrin Harvester: No more ion crap.
• Gdi Harvesters: +300% dmg =)
• Most anti-infantry vehicles get dmg nerf.
• New visual effects (last parts in the quote bellow), one intresting one would be the addtion of extra explossion patch marks, so basicly if you destroy 100 tanks they won't all leave the same mark on the terrain.
• Harvesters cost increased and selling your Refinary gives you 300
• Pwr ups and most upgrades significantly increased.
• Ai now will build super weapons in the most defended part of his base.
• SkyHauks fire ani air in voleys now and when they stratosphere at once they won't just come out of one spot, to get all pwned by something stupid like a Scrin Lightning Spike or whateva it's called.
• Guess what, what, we've always wanted the, the sonic get a damage buff =) Now it can destroy any tank in one shot, no more 10/1000 hp left etc. The official explanation tho' is to account for the bug fix related to it, basicly for something like a mamoth it would do 2.5times it's own dmg.

It would seem now it's much more safer to go infantry early on.

------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: EA Apoc
Hey everyone,

You've won me over, instead of revealing this to newsletter subscribers first, i'm posting it here, and seeing all the lashing out for the same reasons has admittedly been very aggravating and frustrating, but I won't be denied in my quest to win you guys over.

So, before you read the extensive list below, here is a reiteration of our plans surrounding patch 1.05 which we feel is going to set the landscape for Command & Conquer 3 for the coming months, WCG, the ladder, etc, etc, etc... and of course, I expect there will be many who agree and disagree, but such is life in RTS la la community land :-)

-We are targeting the patch release for later this month and we are currently on track. Since this is such a huge patch, our QA team has mandated a much more extensive amount of testing time on it. That is the primary reason we have not put the patch live yet. As i've said before our patches go through extensive QA testing efforts, and especially one of this magnitude.

-The balance changes that are addressed in this patch are absolutely reflective of thousands of hours of testing and play, thousands of matches and generated opinions from you...the community...we listened and we made conscious choices that we feel are going to diversify the factions greatly. I ask that you please save your final judgement until you PLAY THE PATCH extensively. We had balance testers here to help us finalize and fine tune and they all really felt it brings a new dynamic to the game. I consider our balance testers indicative of the general community player, you. Can't have everyone come in and test, but it certainly helps to get that added layer!

-The notes below do not encompass all of the technical bug fixes in this patch but they do include the primary fixes that would be most visually apparent to you.

- We just fixed the auto-map transfer issue for custom maps, that is not noted in the patch notes, but it will be included in patch 1.05. So for anyone having issues automatically transferring custom maps, this patch should fix your problem.

-We are working on a strict disconnection and cheat policy that we plan to coincide with the release of patch 1.05. We will not rest on our laurels and let these people ruin the competitive aspect of the game. Please also understand that this battle is end- less and there cannot be an expectation to 100% rid of cheaters and disconnects. We will have to adapt to survive, its true. If you look at any other RTS, MMO, or FPS game, its an on-going war, its not just here on C&C 3, its everywhere. We will crackdown and do whatever it takes to combat this in order to make our ladder and your experience as great as possible.

-We intend to start a ladder season shortly after the release of patch 1.05. Per this ladder season we are working on prizes, tournaments, etc.

-The Battlecast feature is currently undergoing A LOT of tuning. Its a new revolutionary feature and we are working to make it everything its meant to live up to. Changes and enhancements to Battlecast will also coincide with patch 1.05 and further in to June.


Alright, without further ado, here are your patch 1.05 full notes. Please do not tarnish this thread with anything less than constructive talk related to C&C 3. That would be hugely appreciated.

We will be having some interviews and so forth with the designers to coincide with the patch and our producer of patch 1.05, Greg Kasavin will be talking in this thread and other patch related threads to help answer any questions. Expect to see him on and off.

Thanks again to all those supporting our efforts,
APOC

<Fixed Exploits>

· Fixed an exploit in which players could use GDI Engineers,
Nod Saboteurs, or Scrin Assimilators to capture enemy structures
without moving the units over to those structures.

· Observers of multiplayer matches can no longer use hotkeys to
affect spectated players' production queues.

· Units affected by the Scrin Mothership's Catalyst Cannon now
lose their explosive properties if teleported via the Teleport
Units ability or the Wormhole support power.

· Scrin Mothership can no longer fire its Catalyst Cannon
through a Wormhole.


<Balance Changes>

The following balance changes are intended to enable a more-
diverse set of viable strategies for both casual and competitive
play, and to further ensure that the forces of the GDI, the
Brotherhood of Nod, and the Scrin are evenly matched as Tiberium
Wars rage on.

/General Balance Changes/

· Some structures on each side no longer provide Ground Control
for base expansion. These include: Power Plants, Reactors,
Tiberium Silos, Barracks, Hands of Nod, and Portals.

· Heavy infantry units' resistance to CANNON damage increased by
45%. This affects GDI's Zone Troopers and Commando, Nod's Black
Hand and Commando, and Scrin's Shock Troopers and Mastermind.
All other infantry resistance to CANNON damage increased by 25%.
This change means infantry are less vulnerable to tank shells and
similar weapons.

· Infantry armor penalty to SNIPER damage removed. This change
makes infantry slightly less vulnerable to Nod Shadow Teams in
particular; GDI Commandos and Sniper Teams, Nod Commandos, and
Scrin Buzzers are still highly lethal against enemy infantry.

· Infantry attack range bonus while garrisoned reduced by 25%.

· GDI Commando, Nod Commando, and Scrin Mastermind units can no
longer be crushed by enemy vehicles.

· CANNON weapons, such as those found on the GDI Predator Tank and
Nod Scorpion Tank, now cannot miss against moving enemy vehicles.

· GDI, Nod, and Scrin Harvesters' cost/build time increased by 40%
to 1400/14. All Harversters' speed and turn rates equalized, which
makes Scrin's Harvester slightly more maneuverable than before.

· GDI Refinery, Nod Refinery, and Scrin Extractor sale price
reduced by 70% to 300 credits.

· GDI Surveyor, Nod Emissary, and Scrin Explorer base expansion
units now all move at the same speed. Specifically, the Nod
Emissary and and Scrin Explorer move 50% more slowly to match
the GDI Surveyor.

· Repair Drones for all sides now repair vehicles that are under
attack. Limit one Drone per vehicle. Rate of repair is now
constant, rather than a percentage based on the vehicle's total
health. This means vehicles with lower maximum health will be
repaired faster.

· Standardized repair radius on all structures. As a result, the
radius on all aircraft production structures has increased.

· Re-stealth time doubled for units that do not have innate
stealth effects, such as units affected by Nod's Cloaking Field.
This means such units will take longer to regain stealth after
attacking or being detected.

· Ground Control provided by building a GDI Crane, Nod Crane, or
Scrin Foundry has been equalized. Specifically, the amount of
Ground Control gained by building a Nod Crane or Scrin Foundry
has increased by 50%.

· Tiberium Spike tech structure's income increased by 66% to 25
credits per unit of time.

· Defensive Tower tech structure's attack power increased by 60%.

· Visceroids are now punishable by crushing.


/GDI Balance Changes/

· Rifleman Squad: Speed increased by 20%. Attack power increased
by 50%. Dig In ability cost reduced to 100, build time reduced
to 5, Foxhole capacity increased to two units. Foxholes no longer
eject infantry units until the Foxholes are destroyed. Dig In
ability now causes the unit to begin building a Foxhole
immediately at its location.

· Missile Squad: Speed increased by 20%. Health increased by 100%.
Range increased by 75%. Attack power vs. aircraft reduced by 25%.

· Engineer: Speed increased by 20%.

· Grenadier Squad: Speed increased by 20%.

· Sniper Team: Speed increased by 20%. Health reduced by 50%. Rate
of fire reduced by 50%. Re-stealth time increased by 25%.

· Commando: Speed increased by 20%.

· Pitbull: Health increased by 33%. Rate of fire increased by 25%.
Turret turn rate and pitch rate increased, improving the Pitbull's
ability to fire on fast-moving aircraft.

· APC: Speed increased by 20%. Attack power vs. infantry reduced
by 25%. Turret turn rate and pitch rate increased, improving the
APC's ability to fire on fast- moving aircraft.

· Harvester: Attack power increased by 300%.

· Rig: Acceleration and deceleration times reduced, making the
unit more maneuverable. Battle Base Repair Drones changed to work
like all other Repair Drones.

· Mammoth Tank: Speed reduced by 7%. Attack power of rockets
reduced by 25%. Rate of fire with Railguns upgrade reduced by 35%.
Attack power with Railguns upgrade increased by 35%.

· Orca: Health increased by 50%.

· Firehawk: Now fires its missile loadout in volleys, improving
its ability to quickly damage groups of enemy aircraft.

· Ox Transport: Health increased by 70%.

· Sonic Emitter: No longer hits larger units multiple times in one
attack. Attack power per hit increased to compensate.

· Railguns: Upgrade cost increased by 66% to 5000.

· Composite Armor: Upgrade cost increased by 50% to 2000.

· Radar Scan: Support Power cost increased by 20% to 300.

· Shockwave Artillery: Support Power cost increased by 33% to
2000. Attack power reduced by 38%.

· GDI Airborne: Support Power cost increased by 50% to 1500.

· Bloodhounds: Support Power cost increased by 50% to 3000.

· Sharpshooter Team: Support Power cost increased by 40% to 3500.

· Zone Trooper Drop Pods: Support Power cost increased by 50% to
4500.


/Brotherhood of Nod Balance Changes/

· Militant Squad: Speed increased by 20%. Attack power increased
by 50%.

· Militant Rocket Squad: Speed increased by 20%. Health increased
by 100%. Range increased by 75%. Attack power vs. aircraft reduced
by 25%.

· Saboteur: Speed increased by 20%.

· Shadow Team: Health reduced by 50%.

· Black Hand: Speed increased by 22%. Health increased by 66%.
Attack power increased by 150%.

· Attack Bike: 200% attack power bonus vs. aircraft has been
removed. Turret arc and turn rate increased, which allows the unit
to more-effectively attack any nearby targets while moving.
Directional armor removed, which makes the unit more resistant
to attacks from the flank and rear. Fixed an error that caused
the unit to not always fire both rockets at once, effectively
raising its attack power.

· Raider Buggy: Attack power vs. infantry reduced by 25%.

· Scorpion Tank: Attack power reduced by 20% before Laser
Capacitors upgrade.

· Flame Tank: Cost/buildtime increased by 20% to 1200/12. Turret
turn rate doubled, improving the unit's ability to quickly acquire
targets. Attack power increased by 150%.

· Stealth Tank: Cost/buildtime increased by 50% to 1500/15. Attack
power increased by 50%. Attack power bonus vs. aircraft reduced
by 25%.

· Avatar: Cost/buildtime reduced by 27% to 2200/22. Flamethrower
upgrade attack power increased by 150%.

· Venom Patrol Craft: Attack priorities changed so that the unit
will always prioritize enemy infantry over vehicles and base
defenses.

· Carryall: Health increased by 70%.

· Armageddon Bomber: Health increased by 33%. (Note: This aircraft
only appears when summoned by certain Support Powers.)

· Laser Capacitors: Upgrade cost increased by 50% to 3000.

· Tiberium Infusion: Upgrade cost increased by 50% to 2000.

· Cloaking Field: Support Power cost increased by 100% to 3000.
Attack power vs. light infantry increased by 600%. Attack power
vs. heavy infantry increased by 200%.


/Scrin Balance Changes/

· Buzzers: Health increased by 50%. Movement rate improved; now
more effective at cutting through massed infantry but no longer
kill entire infantry squads all at once.

· Disintegrators: Speed increased by 17%.

· Assimilator: Speed increased by 20%.

· Mastermind: Cost/buildtime increased by 66% to 2500/25. Recharge
time on Manipulator Device increased to 30 seconds. Teleport Units
ability now begins its cooldown period after units are teleported,
rather then when units are first selected for teleporting.

· Gun Walker: Acceleration and deceleration times reduced, making
the unit more maneuverable.

· Harvester: No longer spawns an Ion Storm when destroyed.

· Corruptor: Acceleration and deceleration times reduced, making
the unit more maneuverable.

· Planetary Assault Carrier: Ion Storm ability now generates an
Ion Storm more quickly. Scrin aircraft now receive a 25% bonus to
attack power in addition to the 25% bonus to armor while in an Ion
Storm.

· Mothership: Attack power increased by 100%. Catalyst Cannon now
causes a faster, wider chain reaction. Damage sustained by the
Mothership has less impact on the power of its attack.

· Buzzer Hive: Buzzers immediately respawn when killed. Buzzers no
longer die if their Buzzer Hive is destroyed.

· Gravity Stabilizer: Now spawns Buzzers instead of Shock Troopers
when sold or destroyed.

· Force Fields: Upgrade cost increased by 66% to 5000.

· Stasis Shield: Support Power cost increased by 100% to 2000.

· The Swarm: Support Power cost increased by 50% to 1500.


<Multiplayer Maps>

Added four new multiplayer maps, which may also be used in
Skirmish mode. Two out of four of these maps are enabled for
ranked competition online, and so will appear in the Automatch
map rotation.

/Map 1: Tournament Rift/
Red Zones such as this have long since become uninhabitable to any
of Earth's life forms, and yet serve as a focal point for the
conflict between the GDI, the Brotherhood of Nod, and the Scrin,
in their continued efforts to gain control over the alien mineral.
This is a two-player map available for ranked matches.

/Map 2: Tournament Coastline/
As the spread of Tiberium inexorably continued across the world,
GDI and Nod forces found themselves frequently skirmishing for
control over strategic coastal regions such as this one. This is
a two-player desert map available for ranked matches.

/Map 3: Schlactfeld Stuttgart/
The Scrin, desperate for Tiberium, savagely laid waste to this
once-proud German city in short order. Now fighting over the green
crystal continues in the city's ruined remains. This is a two-
player urban map available for unranked matches.

/Map 4: Coastline Chaos/
An extension of Tournament Coastline, this map is based on the very
first map used to publicly showcase Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium
Wars at the 2006 Electronic Entertainment Expo. This is a four-
player desert map available for unranked matches.


<User Interface Enhancements>

· Added a "Classic Command & Conquer (Left-Click Orders) mouse
interface option, which may be selected in the General tab of
the Settings menu.

· Added the ability to cycle through multiple production
facilities of the same type either by clicking on the main
tab for that production category or using the respective hotkey.

· When placing unit-producing structures, players will now see
these structures' default rally point, which should help guide
base-building decisions near impassable terrain.

· The Reverse Move command for vehicles can now be given by
pressing and holding the hotkey (default 'D') as well as by
tapping the hotkey before each move order.

· The 'Show Healthbars' hotkey (default '`') now toggles on all
healthbars with one tap. Tapping the hotkey again reverts the
effect.

· Loading screens prior to online multiplayer battles now show a
snapshot of the selected map as well as statistics for each
player.

· It is now possible to rebind the default hotkeys for camera
controls.

· Hotkeys for Telestrator features are now available for match
Commentator. Visit the Hotkeys tab of Settings menu to view
the default hotkeys or change them.

· Various "slash commands" added to online multiplayer lobbies.
Type "/help" in an online lobby for a list of commands.


<Bug Fixes>

· Fixed an error that prevented players from being able to place
certain structures as closely together other as expected, which
makes it easier to find suitable building locations.

· Flying units can now be ordered to move onto terrain that is
impassable to ground units.

· The Attack Move order now works correctly if a target unit
is selected.

· Fixed an error that sometimes caused units to not target
structures automatically when given an Assault Move order.

· Fixed a graphical error that caused production timers in the
Sidebar interface to "snap" to position when switching between
production queues.

· Added an EVA announcement for when an enemy Scrin Mastermind
enters the player's line of sight.

· Fixed an error that prevented players from using hotkeys to
change unit stances while units were moving.

· Tiberium Spikes now continue to provide a flow of resources
if damaged and then repaired.

· Several campaign cinematics now show up as expected in the
Transmission Log.

· Fixed an error that sometimes caused GDI Ox Transports and
Nod Carryalls to become stuck and unselectable when ordered to
land next to edges of cliffs.

· Mouse cursor no longer suggests that air units can be used to
open crates.

· Jumping to a unit group now moves the camera to the center
of the group, rather than the last unit added to the group.

· Nod defensive turret hubs now appear unstealthed when their
turrets fire while under the effects of the Disruption Tower.

· Computer-controlled players will no longer attempt to sell
the same structure multiple times when low on resources, which
caused a stream of zeros to appear onscreen.

· GDI APCs now will always move close enough to their targets
to ensure infantry units inside are within attack range.

· Fixed an error that sometimes caused walker unit death
animations to not play correctly.

· Stormriders are now affected by the player's handicap setting
in multiplayer matches.

· Maps with six starting positions now properly randomize
players' starting positions.

· The Nod nuclear missile can no longer be stopped after launch
if the player powers down the Temple of Nod.

· Nod Avatars will no longer retain their veterancy level when
they are destroyed and their husks are recovered.

· Nod Beam Cannons now gain their expected bonuses to attack
power from veterancy.

· Fixed an error that sometimes caused Nod laser defenses to
appear as if they still were firing when powered down or
destroyed.

· Units created using Nod's Decoy Army support power will no
longer last indefinitely if the Nod Operations Center is
powered down. Decoyed Scrin Corrupter units no longer spawn
Visceroids.

· Fixed an error that sometimes caused units to display
veterancy ranks from the wrong faction.

· Added effects for when Tiberium crystals are attacked and
destroyed.

· Added effects for Nod Vertigo Bomber's rear anti-air turret.

· Added ambient sound effects for Scrin Gun Walker and
Scrin Annihilator Tripod.

· GDI and Nod Commandos will now respect the rules of their
selected combat stance with regard to their C4 charges. They
will not automatically rush to demolish structures unless
set to Aggressive stance.

· GDI Firehawks equipped with Stratofighter Boosters will no
longer fly in stacked on top of each other when groups of them
are order to use the ability at the same time.

· Nod Scorpion Tanks don't catch fire as quickly.

· The user interface now properly stretches to the top and
bottom of the screen in 1280x1024 resolution.

· Added recoil effects to unupgraded Nod Scorpion Tank and GDI
Guardian Cannon.

· Scrin Worm Hole support power no longer allows the user to
create the entry and exit points on top of each other.

· Scrin Buzzer Hives now show an attack radius when selected.

· If a player is defeated, the end-of-mission music no longer
plays twice.

· Computer-controlled players will now attempt to build
superweapons only in their most-fortified bases.

· Added an EVA announcement for when teammates place a beacon.

· The Resources chart in the post-match screen now graphs total
credits gathered over time.

· When spectating multiplayer matches, players will now hear the
game music change dynamically as the battle's participants do.

· Fixed an error that caused text to misalign in online chat
lobbies if players remained in those lobbies for a relatively
long period of time.

· When loading replay files directly from the Windows desktop,
Main menu music no longer plays during the match.

· Various other minor bug fixes.


<Other Changes>

· Some campaign missions have been tuned and rebalanced.

· In team-based matches, allied players now share Ground
Control, allowing them to build structures in each others'
bases.

· When attempting to restart a campaign from the beginning,
players will now receive a warning prompt notifying them
that their autosave for that campaign will be overwritten
if they proceed.

· Added wider variety of scorch marks to the battlefield.

· Added garrison-clearing effects for Nod Flame Tank, Nod
Black Hand, and Scrin Corrupter units.

· Added explosion effects for when Scrin Disintegrators are
crushed.

· Added Heroic-level firing effects for the GDI Juggernaut.

· Added music when viewing Intelligence Database during
campaign missions.

· Scrin Devourer Tanks now have an additional gauge that
shows remaining supercharged ammunition after using the
Conversion Beam ability.

· Added new visual effects for the Scrin Annihilator Tripod's
close-range EMP attack.

· Added an audio cue for when Repair command is used on a
structure.

· Added ammunition counters to the unit portraits of aircraft
with limited ammo, including the GDI Orca and Firehawk and the
Nod Vertigo Bomber. Also added reload sound effects to
these units.

· Updated the loading screen when loading saved games.

· Fixed various typographical errors in the game.

[dahilig007]

So.. it's been released!? im a Red Alert Fan too ^_^

[FGSFDS]

What's the minimum requirement for playing smoothly with medium or high graphic presets?

[problemedchild]

Originally Posted by FGSFDS

What's the minimum requirement for playing smoothly with medium or high graphic presets?

Resolution? Playing with AA on? How many times AA?

[felix]

Originally Posted by dahilig007

So.. it's been released!? im a Red Alert Fan too ^_^

The game yes, for both PC & XBox. The patch.. No.
It is finished and currently delayed by quality control checks.. should be out in a few days.

[FGSFDS]

Originally Posted by problemedchild

Resolution? Playing with AA on? How many times AA?

1024x768

If 'AA' means anti-aliasing, is it that anti-aliasing option thingy in the C&C3 settings?

[felix]

Yes, I'm sure thats what he meant by AA..
I think you should be able to pull almost all setting to high and ultra high and some things like anti-aliasing to 1x 2x etc with just 512 RAM and a new and decent graphics card..

I know a friend has has spex that are something like that.. and that's how the settings look to me.. the game seems to run smoothly on all but the biggest of maps for him. (but for those I'm guessing he just needs an extra 512 RAM)

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All in all the game is very forgiving setting wise..

[LoweGear]

Hmmm for the ultra-tech savvy gamers here, since we're talking about AA anyways...

What setting should I put AA on when on 1024x768 without losing performance (on a 256mb GPU)? I'm quite afraid to test out AA especially when I suddenly get to see my screen stretch with AA -_-;;;

[FGSFDS]

Originally Posted by Cats

Yes, I'm sure thats what he meant by AA..
I think you should be able to pull almost all setting to high and ultra high and some things like anti-aliasing to 1x 2x etc with just 512 RAM and a new and decent graphics card..

I know a friend has has spex that are something like that.. and that's how the settings look to me.. the game seems to run smoothly on all but the biggest of maps for him. (but for those I'm guessing he just needs an extra 512 RAM)

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All in all the game is very forgiving setting wise..

For medium or high graphic presets?

By the way... is the anti-aliasing thingy supposed to be adjusted at the C&C3 settings there? =\

[felix]

Ahh?!.. Oh, Yes Yes.. =_= Ara ara..
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Look just set anti-aliasing to x1, texture to high, lighting the same, and animation to medium. Then start a skirmish match on a 2player map, start building a ref, the money counter should be dropping very Very smoothly..

Then go back add to the settings. Repeat the skirmish part.
Do this until you get to the point where the counter either lags or "jumps". It's a very subtle difference, hope you got good eye sight. ~_~
At that point the previous settings are the optimal settings for you.

If you got low spex, I don't recommend going over anti-aliasing x2 as your better of pumpin up the rest of the settings. If you really want to get as much resources as possible for the game you can always go into Ctrl - Shift - Esc. Close absolutely everything that has your name on it (explorer etc..) If you want to close the anti-vir (recommend to hit disable on network first tho') you'll need to do it from explorer. After that just go File > New Task, and browse for the link (shortcut) or the actual .exe. (you can run any program this way)

Note I : explorer is the windows shell, just think of it as the Windows Graphical Interface, when you close it the start bar will go away, as well as some minor functionality, generally things like the ability to adjust sound volume from your keyboard (if you have those buttons on you keyboard that is =P ).

Note II : You don't seem to understand what anti-aliasing does.. to put it short, round edges will appear round instead of stair-like or jagged. (takes a lot of resources tho' =/ )

[Kinny Riddle]

I just realized something after playing for about 2 weeks: there doesn't seem to be any naval units for any of the 3 factions this time around.

I don't know about other people, but I personally find the naval campaigns in Red Alert 2 fun, so I'm sort of disappointed there isn't even any accommodation for naval units.

[felix]

This is not a sequel to the Red Alert series.. but the Tiberium series.
There were never naval units in any of the games, at most there were amphibius units.