2011-04-04, 20:07 | Link #1483 | |
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To get an impression of the genre, you only have to clear one route. Then if it's your kind of thing, you'll start trying other routes and learn about the path system. Tsukihime's path system is very vague; you can't even determine whose route you're on without asking people. When I was new to VNs, I thought Tsukihime was boring (yes, really). It's all walls of text, you have to fiddle with things to even get music, and while I won't call the graphics bad it's nothing to be blown away by. For a newbie, it's rather hard to get into. I would recommend Ever17 over Tsukihime as starter VN (I had read Ever17 before trying Tsukihime). Yes. I'd go as far as saying Ever17 is probably less awesome if you've played 999 beforehand (and vice-versa - 999 disappointed me mainly because I'd already played Ever17). |
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2011-04-04, 21:25 | Link #1485 | |
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What do you mean by fiddling to get music? My version already had music when I installed it without any problems whatsoever. |
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2011-04-05, 01:07 | Link #1487 |
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I guess I'll have to give him an option between slice-of-life and supernatural fighting stuff (just generalizing). Oh, if it makes a difference, he really likes the Higurashi anime. But I have no idea if 1. that's fully translated yet and 2. if that visual novel is typical or if it...you know, messes with the player.
And I'm like GundamAce in that hearing Clannad mentioned made me think of him being forced to sit through that 300 hour guide (that I'm actually in the middle of) and forgetting that just a few routes would do just fine. |
2011-04-05, 02:35 | Link #1489 | |
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http://www.mangagamer.com/allages/ Yesterday they even released a trail version. The Higurashi visual novel is very good with messing with it readers mind, it's one of the things that makes it so good. But if your friend has already seen all of the Higurashi anime the mindfucks won't work on him anymore so a big part of its charm will go away. PS Higurashi is my favorite visual novel. Last edited by chaos_alfa; 2011-04-05 at 09:06. |
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2011-04-05, 11:37 | Link #1491 | |
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"On topic", however, I wouldn't recommend Fate to a first time player. It's interesting, but far too big. Back then, I think the first title I ever read was Planetarian, which was very short but easy to get into, not to mention it had a very pretty story which, if played on a rainy day, made it quite atmospheric. Nowadays there are tons of other good (short) titles out there, though. Depending on what sort of person you are, a lot of small games like the Nitro+ ones have been translated and you could probably get into those. The only con I see is that they're usually written in a very mature way and more often than not deal with very touchy subjects such as rape etc. Anyway, Higurashi seems like it might be a good place to start. If a bit confusing, it can get pretty interesting not too long into it, and since it's divided into the whole different episodes you get a climax early on, without having to read through a "whole" game. Plus, it has all of those club activities to help newcomers get used to the craziness by introducing likeable characters doing funny stuff.
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2011-04-05, 12:09 | Link #1492 |
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As long as Higurashi doesn't have any twists that ruin some of the fun of Ever17, I'm willing to recommend it. He asks all the time what's so epic about it and why it can't be adapted into an anime or manga and it's so annoying that I can't even give him an example because he'd overanalyze it.
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2011-04-05, 12:34 | Link #1493 | |
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2011-04-05, 13:45 | Link #1494 |
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The only reason I'm against recommending Higurashi or Planetarian is because they're visual novels, and not ADVs like Ever 17, so if you want to introduce him to an ADV, they'd be not representative of that at all. But if you want to introduce him to visual novels, then it's fine.
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2011-04-05, 14:29 | Link #1495 | |
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You can get it here: http://sonozakifutagotachi.blogspot....-releases.html P.S.: Every chapter is a story on it self. |
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2011-04-05, 16:01 | Link #1496 | |
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2011-04-05, 16:14 | Link #1497 | |
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I don't think I could ever write for an ADV. The format is just far too restrictive.
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2011-04-05, 16:28 | Link #1499 | |
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Both formats produce amazing, yet different, creative works. |
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2011-04-05, 16:29 | Link #1500 | |
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The only really noticeable difference I've found between the two is that ADV makes it easier to take screencaps in context without sprite/cg quality being lost.
But that's a really really small thing. Quote:
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