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Shrade- 107 Andy- 105 Cayenne- 98 Jin- 91 Amata- 80 commander- 30 Zen- 26 Mikage- 25 Izumo- 22 Donar- 16 Moroi- 11 Last 2 aren't shown on the image but listed on the link Mix- 1938 Zessica- 1902 Yunoha- 1881 Sazanka- 1609 Crea- 1606 Ei- 1436 Suomi- 1376 Alicia- 1375 Mikono- 1039 I see a lot of bias towards the females lol
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2012-03-26, 02:39 | Link #3225 | |
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2012-03-26, 03:10 | Link #3226 |
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I concur to the fujoshi poll.
I would have put Cayenne before Andy and Shrade though. I suppose Mikono not being a very proactive thoughful GF, the jelly (though mostly understandable), and the little "incident" with Kagura at the end of episode 5 probably rub the otakus/purity fags in the wrong direction. How is it that Zessica isn't number one ?!!! Otaku sure love their Tsuderes. Or is it the boobs ? XD Last edited by Zuul; 2012-03-26 at 03:25. |
2012-03-26, 03:23 | Link #3227 | |
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This seems to be a male fans-based poll... otherwise, I bet Jin would be higher.
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While poor Mikono... Source of the poll. Yeah not a small poll at all.
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2012-03-26, 15:27 | Link #3229 |
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I want to remind everyone to please use the Episode threads from now on to discuss what happens in the episodes proper. If you're subscribed to this thread, please consider subscribing to the sub-forum. This thread can be used for more general topics. I moved a few posts from this thread to the Episode 13 thread to keep everything grouped together.
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There isn't merchandise thread yet so I'll post it here.
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2012-04-14, 03:26 | Link #3232 |
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I posted some concept art on catsuka forum:
http://www.catsuka.com/interf/forum/...7157&start=257 Please check it out! |
2012-04-14, 04:28 | Link #3233 | |
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2012-04-14, 06:54 | Link #3234 | |
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2012-04-15, 18:19 | Link #3235 | |
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Moving us over...
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Jin and Yunoha did develop at a breakneck speed but that's fine when you consider the actors: Jin is completely isolated in ND, entirely out of his element, but some protoculture suddenly starts being nice to him in a way that doesn't completely get him running away in panic: by keeping her distance and trying to direct him. That's the whole point of it being Yunoha and Jin, and not any of the other girls. Those two have similar personality quirks and can, and did, express empathy towards one another which allowed them to bond quickly (we already knew that Yunoha, being so isolated, quickly formed attachments to people who treated her normally). Out of the four episodes where it was *there*, two were devoted to it developing it while two others had flashes of just what it was that made Yunoha different from every other girl for Jin. Such scenes are not juxtaposed for the lulz. Certainly, they are not perfectly handled and they do have a grace of being secondary characters with no nearly as much needed foreplay or development, but it makes the point that they can do it, they can do it decently enough, and the issues faced by the quadrangle are not so different from the issues of the other characters, its just how said characters act. The biggest examples are, quite honestly, Andy and Amata: One confronts the issue head on, the other dances around the point and mopes until the issue physically manifests. Quote:
Episode 6 - Kagura Appears. Episode 7 - Kagura plays elephant in the room for Mikono. Episode 8 - Kagura is in a cage. Amata buys the picture with Kagura (elephant), Amata and Mikono have little screen time together, alone, so the problem would have been hard to really show. It is alluded to, though, with Amata's *must protect*. There's really only one thing he can be referring to... Episode 9 - Focuses on MIX and Andy, very little time for Amata and Mikono until the very end, and then a Fudo happens. Episode 10 - ALL about Jin. Episode 11 - Elephants. Episode 12 - Bonding -> Elephant Appears. I think what they were aiming for is that its implied to be on their minds, they simply didn't bother to spell it out time and again in episodes where the show focused on giving the rest of the cast some depth (9, 10). I don't agree on the severity though I can agree that the execution leaves a bit too much to interpretation. Quote:
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Episode 6: Fight episode, irrelevant and is never brought up. Episode 7: Resolved with Yunoha, and Amata, quite clearly, being shown to fly for everything. After that, it was just Mikono being unreasonably jelly for something that, at that point, she knows and has admitted is completely beyond Amata's control. Quote:
Amata doesn't immediately start flying in Ep.6, first he's falling. I don't know if Kagura can reverse GRAVITY. And, didn't he glow red just before beating back Shrade and his music?
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As for Jin and Yunoha, you can analyze everything and find explanations, but the speed was in fact out of character for Jin, and Yunoha as well (though at least she was given a believable motivation). It was just unnaturally fast. It doesn't help that they needed to focus so much on developing it in order to get a reaction out of the viewers at Jin's eventual death that the Jin x Yunoha relationship overshadowed nearly everything else. Quote:
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Ep 1-2: Kagura wants Mikono. He has Aquarion pinned down. With his power he can essentially dismantle a mecha, but what does he do instead? starts banging on Aquarion like an idiot. And then he again doesn't do anything as Amata (having powered up) kicks his ass. Ep 6: He glows red AFTER he's already made Shrade lose the violin. Shrade stands there completely unarmed, preparing for physical combat (where Kagura would clearly have the upper hand), Kagura glows red, and... scrams. What. Also ep 6: he could've avoided getting his ass kicked by: a) reversing Aquarion's flight power, b) reversing the damage done to his mecha (remember what he'd done to Cayenne? yeah), c) hell, reversing the gattai, he's probably hax enough to do that. Instead he got his ass kicked. And you can't even say that his power was a result of Mykage's boost because one, he had glowed red as early as ep 6, two, he wasn't surprised in the least by his power and knew how to use it, three, in ep 15 he managed to do everything without Mykage's support. So. Again, just to restate the point I'm trying to make: it's not that the writers are handling specifically Amata and Mikono badly, the problems involve other characters as well, and are stemming from a general issue with the writing. Last edited by kuromitsu; 2012-04-19 at 14:14. |
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So reverse what you listed: Ep 1-2: He couldn't undo shit, the only way for him to get to Mikono was to bash open the cockpit. Ep 6: The glow is ??? but he doesn't have the powers you think he does. He cannot reverse the damage (reference Ep. 13 when his power is cut off, the Spada shreds him). Similarly, he does not have the power to stop the EVOL from gattaing.
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2012-04-19, 15:34 | Link #3240 |
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FWIW: I think we can *all* agree that that Mikono-Yunoha scene is probably the front-runner for the "all-around weakest scene" award (at least so far, sigh).
Not having Zessica go as a favor to Amata is a huge missed opportunity; it could've been done very naturally and would have tied everything together cleanly (even if Mikono still had her ridiculous line, sigh). In re the rest: Zessica's backstory better turn out to be really interesting, Kagura sucks at using his powers except when he doesn't suck at using his powers, we still don't know what's up with Beastwolf!, and most of our characters suck at talking, logic, or both. But it's still a fun show despite all that! |
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