2008-03-05, 23:07 | Link #401 | ||
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And how do you know how Kyon-ko acts in novel canon? She doesn't exist in novel canon. Half the point of rewriting this is to show how the perceptions and logic would be different if Kyon was a girl. |
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2008-03-05, 23:10 | Link #403 |
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Kyon-chan works well...
Now that you say it, I just went through a wide search in baka-tsuki about the usage of Kyon in the volumes: Haruhi, Taniguchi, Kunikida, Nakagawa (Nagato-fanboy), Sasaki: Kyon only Asahina, Kyon's sister: Kyon-kun only (vol 9 disagrees, might be a mistranslation) Tsuruya: Mostly Kyon-kun, sometimes Kyon in vol 7 Itsuki: Said Kyon only once on vol 4, mocking both Kyon and John names. Other than that, never. Yuki: Never, ever said Kyon or Kyon-kun, this even a major plot point in Snow Mountain Syndrome. |
2008-03-05, 23:16 | Link #405 | |
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Her thought process also has to be different from the original Kyon. What girl in their right mind would think like Kyon does? Actually, how many of us guys think like him? Like Kaisos suggested, Kyon is a watcher of shounen and sci-fi, while Kyon-chan is likely to have been influenced by shoujo and other such things (where I have very little experience).
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2008-03-05, 23:18 | Link #406 |
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@Kaisos Erranon depends if your conjectures made are based on the criteria of close to equal outcomes out of the scenarios and whether or not if the scenarios themselves are closely identical to that of the canon. Frankly, the only frame of reference in the entirety of Haruhi series is based solely from the perspective of one Kyon. Essentially, the only 'established' point of reference is that of Kyon as in canon...
Yes, I have merely changed she to he. ChrissieXD in comparison is attempting to create a different personality and to gain another view. I will not only acknowledge your point, but actually thinking about how hard it would be to construct an independent mindset for Kyon-ko... Kyon-ko's influence might also be... Jane Austin, Heian/Warring period/Meiji poets... Japanese culture isn't quite like that of western mind, since the concept of Bushido for one applies to female as do male, to name just one element. Here by my question: male kyon has a unique mind for a male, but what would constitute as a unique mind for a female?
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2008-03-05, 23:19 | Link #407 | |
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Or will be attempting to do once I get this report done. Maaa, I hate college... |
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2008-03-05, 23:22 | Link #408 |
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About what to do with the Computer Society, try something like they're a fake club, their real intention is to spend time on Yaoi worship and production. Then Haruki finds out...
That should turn into an interesting Day of Sagittarius... Boys Love game? Yuuki turns out to be their BL god-like player(he's just knowledgeable, not that he's really into that... currently)? |
2008-03-05, 23:22 | Link #409 | |
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If it's a fanfic, it's up to the author(s) to decide the personality and actions, as that is the canon ending in that world. But, the great thing about literature is that you don't have to accept that ending or characterization. For instance, I love Kazumi of Shana, so I made a canon ending in my mind of having her end up with Yuji. It's not for anyone else to tell me that my plotline was wrong, as it is my canon ending. Basically, I think in terms of the fanfiction end of this (The rewrite of the story), the author should be the one who makes the final say. It just means that in his/her world, that's their personality, and that's what happens.
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2008-03-05, 23:23 | Link #410 |
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And we have 400 posts in 4 days!
If that's not the description of hot, I don't know what is! Anyway, just some random thoughts:
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2008-03-05, 23:23 | Link #411 | ||
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Asahina will probably remain Asahina. In Nagato's case...... well, I'll leave that up to you. Koizumi: First name terms. It's a girl thing. Quote:
I'm thinking of Kyon-ko as a less cynical, more dreamy type of person. DJ, I'll read over your work sometime later, and comment on it. Let's see if I can get some of my shoujo experience into it. |
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2008-03-05, 23:25 | Link #412 |
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Hoho, that would requite a completely different set of references to that of the original Day of Sagittarius III, being heavily influenced by Legend of Galactic Heroes and Yamato. For one thing, if you want an equivalence to that in gaming annals of fame, you need Tokimeki memorial and even before that... and there is no such thing as a multiplayer LAN dating sim game ... in 2D.
I actually think of Kyon-ko as somewhat jaded and cynical I guess! Having no belief in miracle nor Santa Claus, she is forced to deal with reality as male Kyon does... while never that popular and sees things from the sideline perpetually. Kang Seung Jae: You don't mean Regnarok. I know there's a 3D MMORPG all about 'dating and sex' being made in S.Korea... those girls in computer club would have to be pretty 'savvy' to hunt down things that aren't ported over to Japan. From what I recall, Korean products didn't hit big in Japan until after 1995.
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2008-03-05, 23:27 | Link #414 | |
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(I WANT INPUT ON THE FOLLOWING, PLEASE) - Hmm, I'd have to say for the same reasons, mostly. Haruki's pretty good looking, seems to have similar interests, stands out a lot. Then she talks to him and is utterly weirded out. -Kyon resists Haruhi pretty well, considering. As for poor Kyon-ko, since Haruki can pick her up at will, I don't think she's going to have an easy time... -Um. Yeah, Chippendales. I'm going to squick myself out writing that one. -Mitsuuru. To Haruki, dressing in drag is one way of proving one's manliness. -As above, Trap Maid. Because it's funnier. Unless anyone has objections? (Referencing Hayate would be fun...) His... work? |
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2008-03-05, 23:28 | Link #415 | |
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- Haruki's a pretty good looking bastard. Strange eccentricities aside, it's pretty much the same reasoning as the original novel. - Something tells me Kyon-chan's gonna have a harder time resisting Haruki than Kyon does with Haruhi. But she'll try her best! - I'm torn between how we should divvy up maid duties. Asahina's still the prime candidate, but Kyon-chan looks so good in the maid outfit, and I've seen Itsuki-chan cosplay raping Kyon-chan already. That's Kaisos's dominion. PM him, he's the writer.
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2008-03-05, 23:32 | Link #416 |
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As Kyon sees Haruhi, Kyonko might Haruki being a person that can realize dreams, no matter what the circumstances be I suppose. A universal theme with the sheer tidal wave of Suzumiya's personality is that no element can oppose that fire burning inside this force of nature and that the world will move on Suzumiya's whim.
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2008-03-05, 23:37 | Link #420 | ||
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I appreciate the help, though. The only shoujo I've ever seen is Ouran, so that's a big help. |
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