(L) Rosario+Vampire Manga

[cyberdemon]

Spoiler for 43:

i wonder what happens to the blood of a shinso carrier if they transfer it to another person Like Akasha and moka dd. would it remain shinso blood or would it return to normal? this ritual they're carrying out could be quite short lived if it's the ladder.

[Tachibana]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

Spoiler for 43:

i wonder what happens to the blood of a shinso carrier if they transfer it to another person Like Akasha and moka dd. would it remain shinso blood or would it return to normal? this ritual they're carrying out could be quite short lived if it's the ladder.

Well, from what we know when the Shinso blood is passed from person to person those individuals become the next Shinso, examples include Moka and Tsukune because they to are Shinso's, we also know that the Shinso blood doesn't lose it's synchronization effects when inherited by someone else, which is why Alucard woke up when Moka's Shinso power was released.

Spoiler for Issa:

Another topic, about Issa, he is alive because Kahlua confirmed this in chapter 14, before her and Ura-Moka fought, Kahlua said that their father would be proud of how strong Ura-Moka was, except Kahlua used "will" instead of "would", which can be used in past tense.

But i guess i'm like yall, i just wonder what happened to him...

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Shinso Tsukune

Well, from what we know when the Shinso blood is passed from person to person those individuals become the next Shinso, examples include Moka and Tsukune because they to are Shinso's, we also know that the Shinso blood doesn't lose it's synchronization effects when inherited by someone else, which is why Alucard woke up when Moka's Shinso power was released.

Spoiler for Issa:

Another topic, about Issa, he is alive because Kahlua confirmed this in chapter 14, before her and Ura-Moka fought, Kahlua said that their father would be proud of how strong Ura-Moka was, except Kahlua used "will" instead of "would", which can be used in past tense.

But i guess i'm like yall, i just wonder what happened to him...

Spoiler for Shinso blood:

Except that ,keeping the blood synchronization, after inhriting the Shinso blood, is pretty rare, if we take Tohou Fuhai's words from chapter 33 into consideration.

Furthermore, it seems to me that Tsukune has a stronger blood connection with Moka, because of the mental connection that they share with each other, since despite Tsukune being pretty close to Alucard, there hasn't been anything suggesting that Alucad reacted in some way to Tsukune presence.

Still, considering the fact that, there hasn't been any clear explanation on how does the Shinso blood synchronizes with the blood of another Shinso vampire, so maybe it is a good idea to wait, until Ikeda reveals more information about this.

[zibi88]

Originally Posted by Chris38

Spoiler for Shinso blood:

Except that ,keeping the blood synchronization, after inhriting the Shinso blood, is pretty rare, if we take Tohou Fuhai's words from chapter 33 into consideration.

Furthermore, it seems to me that Tsukune has a stronger blood connection with Moka, because of the mental connection that they share with each other, since despite Tsukune being pretty close to Alucard, there hasn't been anything suggesting that Alucad reacted in some way to Tsukune presence.

Still, considering the fact that, there hasn't been any clear explanation on how does the Shinso blood synchronizes with the blood of another Shinso vampire, so maybe it is a good idea to wait, until Ikeda reveals more information about this.

Spoiler for eh...:

well tsukune did not use the shinso blood in him for that small attack... but he used a magic skill from tohou funai... his blood is sealed by that lock on his right arm the same like the rosary is on moka.... once they are removed both start to use shinso blood in 100% mode (that bat transformation thing.... moka changes to ura moka while tsukune to dark tsukune)

alucard did not react to moka for 1month... the same how he did not react to tsukune... simply its becouse both dont use shinso blood since its sealed...

the boss mentioned that there is a key to unseal alucard inside moka.... and that they are in the process of getting it.... which mostly its to remove the rosary (that sealing spot looks similar how the school head repaired mokas seal once..) and make ura moka resurface since she is fueled by shinso blood the alucard will react to it....

I really hope that akua did not use alucard is your mother now to make moka cooperate in this ritual... 1month passed so maybe after not seeing that tsukune is appearing to save her she just gave up the resistance and is going allong with it....



but still the boss is kinda stupid... alucard will kill not only humankind but mostly everyone else even yukai's >__<.....

well what I see is that tsukune gets to moka in the last moment... moka wakes up and is about to rush towards tsukune (out of that sealing spot) but akua will appear and fight tsukune while imobilize moka in that sealing spot.... tsukune was worried that outer moka is a fake personality... so the struggle will appear that he wont be able to see outer moka anymore if the ritual ends... and it might end alucard will be awakened... but they will see that he is out of control and gets to kill everyone on that island..... akua maybe with moka might start to think what I have done.... and maybe try to call out to it thinking that since mother is there than alucard will stop..... but it will fail so everyone will have to fight it with everything they got untill some reinforcements arrive...

alucard might be reborn since tsukune got wings for some reason... and in current chapter tsukune used an "antiaircraft skill" so a skill for air combat....

maybe alucard will awaken... and it will take moka (kinda like it did with akasha)... tsukune will cry out... the same akua will witness what she has done... that her dear sister has been absorbed like akasha which was the compleate opposite of akashas wish and her sacrafice..... so the struggle to save moka will happen (get inside and get her out :P maybe along with mother)

many many ways to do it.... but moka beign taken by alucard and tsukune saving her which for sure end the pairing stuff that moka(s) will compleatly fall in love with tsukune and will admit it.... save her and than work together to destroy alucard once for all....

still I wonder how moka...akua...the boss will react to tsukunes transformation ^^ and that alucard smell...

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by zibi88

Spoiler for eh...:

well tsukune did not use the shinso blood in him for that small attack... but he used a magic skill from tohou funai... his blood is sealed by that lock on his right arm the same like the rosary is on moka.... once they are removed both start to use shinso blood in 100% mode (that bat transformation thing.... moka changes to ura moka while tsukune to dark tsukune)

alucard did not react to moka for 1month... the same how he did not react to tsukune... simply its becouse both dont use shinso blood since its sealed...

the boss mentioned that there is a key to unseal alucard inside moka.... and that they are in the process of getting it.... which mostly its to remove the rosary (that sealing spot looks similar how the school head repaired mokas seal once..) and make ura moka resurface since she is fueled by shinso blood the alucard will react to it....

I really hope that akua did not use alucard is your mother now to make moka cooperate in this ritual... 1month passed so maybe after not seeing that tsukune is appearing to save her she just gave up the resistance and is going allong with it....



but still the boss is kinda stupid... alucard will kill not only humankind but mostly everyone else even yukai's >__<.....

well what I see is that tsukune gets to moka in the last moment... moka wakes up and is about to rush towards tsukune (out of that sealing spot) but akua will appear and fight tsukune while imobilize moka in that sealing spot.... tsukune was worried that outer moka is a fake personality... so the struggle will appear that he wont be able to see outer moka anymore if the ritual ends... and it might end alucard will be awakened... but they will see that he is out of control and gets to kill everyone on that island..... akua maybe with moka might start to think what I have done.... and maybe try to call out to it thinking that since mother is there than alucard will stop..... but it will fail so everyone will have to fight it with everything they got untill some reinforcements arrive...

alucard might be reborn since tsukune got wings for some reason... and in current chapter tsukune used an "antiaircraft skill" so a skill for air combat....

maybe alucard will awaken... and it will take moka (kinda like it did with akasha)... tsukune will cry out... the same akua will witness what she has done... that her dear sister has been absorbed like akasha which was the compleate opposite of akashas wish and her sacrafice..... so the struggle to save moka will happen (get inside and get her out :P maybe along with mother)

many many ways to do it.... but moka beign taken by alucard and tsukune saving her which for sure end the pairing stuff that moka(s) will compleatly fall in love with tsukune and will admit it.... save her and than work together to destroy alucard once for all....

still I wonder how moka...akua...the boss will react to tsukunes transformation ^^ and that alucard smell...

Spoiler for 43:

Well, in my opinion, a scenario like that, won't occur until we are close to the end of this manga, and considering the fact that Ikeda still has left a lot of things unresolved - like for example, the matter of Issa and the Shuzen family, the "conflict" between Fairy Tale's 1-st subdivision, Hokuto's objective in helping Tsukune rescue Moka, the matter of the egg, planted in the Yuki Onna village - simply put, there is still too many things that haven't been resolved yet, for the "Rescue Moka arc" to be the last arc of this manga.

Furthermore, I don't think that, Tsukune is capable of fully controlling his Shinso powers yet, which means that he probably isn't capable of consciously controlling his wings either. After all, Tsukune's training with Tohou Fuhai has been focused on making Tsukune learn how to effectively use youjutsu techniques, so I don't think that Tsukune had much time to concentrate on taking control over his "berserk side".

Still, it's not like Tsukune hadn't had any progress in talking control over his vampire powers, since I believe that a user of youjutsu techniques needs to be able to effectively mange and control his youkai energies, meaning that at the current point, Tsukune should be capable of keeping his youkai energy bellow the limit that he is capable of controlling - in other words I think, that there is a pretty low chance that Tsukune will reach his limits, which would cause his "berserk side" to awaken. Naturally, it means that there is a low chance that Tsukune is going to be the one to awaken Alucard and I don't think that Fairy Tale is going to be successful in awakening Alucard by using Moka's Shinso powers, probably because Tsukune will intervene just in time or, because Moka's Shinso blood alone, won't be enough to cause Alucard to awaken.

[kenjiharima]

Besides the story....

Who is this stud? lol

Tsukune has gone bishie XD

[Mahou]

Hi there, it's Mahou from One Manga forum.

Spoiler for 43:

Someone asked for a translation of Tsukune's new Youjutsu. Most techniques don't really make sense without a good imagination (eg. with the Tales of-Hi Ougi), so I only provide the kanji-by-kanji meaning of Bakuryuujin
爆 - Baku = Bomb -> to show a contrast "Bakuhatsu" would be explosion (literally Bomb discharge)
瑠 - Ryuu = Lapis Lazuli
陣 - Jin = Battle Formation, camp, encampment
@my translation attempt: The raw I used had a few hard to read parts, so I did a bad thing and guessed the meaning more or less (eg. the part with the ID check at the beginning). But for a rough rundown it should be sufficent, I hope.

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Besides the story....

Who is this stud? lol

Tsukune has gone bishie XD

Well, after everything that Tsukune went through, it would be pretty strange, if Tsukune's body stayed the same, as it was in the beginning of the first season of this manga.

[kenjiharima]

Originally Posted by Mahou

Hi there, it's Mahou from One Manga forum.

Spoiler for 43:

Someone asked for a translation of Tsukune's new Youjutsu. Most techniques don't really make sense without a good imagination (eg. with the Tales of-Hi Ougi), so I only provide the kanji-by-kanji meaning of Bakuryuujin
爆 - Baku = Bomb -> to show a contrast "Bakuhatsu" would be explosion (literally Bomb discharge)
瑠 - Ryuu = Lapis Lazuli
陣 - Jin = Battle Formation, camp, encampment
@my translation attempt: The raw I used had a few hard to read parts, so I did a bad thing and guessed the meaning more or less (eg. the part with the ID check at the beginning). But for a rough rundown it should be sufficent, I hope.

Hmm...So it's like Exploding Dragon Seal Formation?...sorry just a wild guess.

[Mahou]

Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Hmm...So it's like Exploding Dragon Seal Formation?...sorry just a wild guess.

I'm not very creative myself, but maybe something like Lapis Bomb Formation or Lapis Encampment Bombing (it looked like an area of effect technique). The Lapis could either be the gemstone or just the color, that I don't know either.

[Tachibana]

@Mahou
Good to see you on here, from your post i was able to try and do some translating on my own but i'm still trying to get good at it.

Ok heres what i got for trying to figure out the meaning of Tsukune's technique: Bakuryuujin

爆 - Baku = Either means "Bomb" or "Bomb Discharge" like Mahou has explained, but when used with other kanji it can also mean "Explosive".
瑠 - Ryuu = I tried googling just the Kanji itself for "Ryuu" but i didn't get anything except the japanese kanji itself, no english meaning or anything, using the help of a translator.
陣 - Jin = Means "Battle Formation" of course.

I had thought of something more along the lines of "Explosive Battle Formation", but i still can't figure out that "Ryuu", or mabye something like "Explosive Lapis Battle Formation", the only reason i can think of that the "Lapis Lazuli" or "Ryuu" was added in there would be related to the technique's color when used...

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Shinso Tsukune

Well, from what we know when the Shinso blood is passed from person to person those individuals become the next Shinso, examples include Moka and Tsukune because they to are Shinso's, we also know that the Shinso blood doesn't lose it's synchronization effects when inherited by someone else, which is why Alucard woke up when Moka's Shinso power was released.

Spoiler for Issa:

Another topic, about Issa, he is alive because Kahlua confirmed this in chapter 14, before her and Ura-Moka fought, Kahlua said that their father would be proud of how strong Ura-Moka was, except Kahlua used "will" instead of "would", which can be used in past tense.

But i guess i'm like yall, i just wonder what happened to him...

not quite what i asked. What i did was whether Moka still carries Shinso blood or not after passing it to Tsukune.

[Tachibana]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

not quite what i asked. What i did was whether Moka still carries Shinso blood or not after passing it to Tsukune.

Oh my mistake, as far as we know she still does.

[Mahou]

I agree. IMHO, without the Shinso blood Moka would be more or less worthless for Fairy Tale. Unless to find somehow out who is the next inherior of it or just for Akua to drool over :P.

[HayashiTakara]

Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Besides the story....

Who is this stud? lol

Tsukune has gone bishie XD

This, and his awesome combat skills makes the girls wet between the legs

[tyranuus]

On the subject of the move...

Spoiler:

Well, it seems this is getting a lot of debate til the translators try to officially dub the move (also, if Tsukune is using moves like these; he's obviously been training hard on actually applying the Youjutsu capabilities he's been granted).

What about Explosive Dragon Formation/Dragon Bomb Formation?

If it's meant to be an anti-air skill I'd picture some sort of AOE/Flak capability. I'm not sure the words we've been provided would quite cover what I'd term such a move, but formation would seem the most appropriate word to at least cover the multi-target/area segment of the move.

Glad to see the story will be steaming forward now rather than sticking with the training arc.

[Tachibana]

@Tyranuus

I originally thought that the "Ryuu" meant "Dragon" too, because thats what it means in japanese but the kanji for "Ryuu" that Mahou posted was different than the kanji that "Dragon" uses, the "Ryuu" in Tsukune's technique literally means "Lapis Lazuli" in japanese and not "Dragon", i guess we won't really know until someone properly translates or until the translated chapter from Muda Scantrad is released.

But i thought the "Dragon" or "Ryuu" would be fitting for the technique or poetic in the name, because in Chinese mythology they are very famous and symbolic, because in china in the R+V universe, thats where Tsukune learned all his Youjutsu.

[HayashiTakara]

Ryuu also means "attack". Everything is based on context and what kanji is used.

[Mahou]

The Kanji I used was based on the raw, which is indeed "Lapis Lazuli", but honestly I wouldn't really bother with an technique translation, if I were a translator. It's too much of a hassle and usually nobody would complain about it as expressions like "nii-san/(o)nee-san" are left alone as well quite often. It's easy for techniques like Jigentou. Then there are technique names that are just unsuited to be translated. Take for example Tales of Destiny 2 (for PS2) with a technique name composed of 15 Kanjis.

[HayashiTakara]

Yeah I would leave techniques untranslated and just write it out in romanji, plus it sounds cooler