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xizro345 · 2013-01-26, 13:52

I still think this episode shoule have been easily compressed, and the only reason I believe they didn't was how much is important in the case of the real AKB.

mechdra · 2013-01-26, 14:52

The emotional level in ths episode is very high. I am glad the production team did not compressed it.

chaosprophet · 2013-01-26, 15:12

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Originally Posted by xizro345

I still think this episode shoule have been easily compressed, and the only reason I believe they didn't was how much is important in the case of the real AKB.

Considering the girls been struggling with it for the past 3 episodes, I think it did deserve the time they spent on results.

xizro345 · 2013-01-26, 15:31

I'd rather have the plot moving forward. I wouldn't mind if they start giving answers, I really don't want them to have everything explained only in the last 2-3 episodes.

Hooves · 2013-01-26, 16:17

Just finished watching episode 13 and just had to comment before watching season 2. That ending was AMAZING!! I never get chills that epic often. Now excuse me, onwards to season 2!

chaosprophet · 2013-01-26, 20:29

More detailed thoughts about the episode:

Spoiler for ep17/4:

ars89 · 2013-01-26, 22:41

Spoiler for ep 17:

RDF2050 · 2013-01-26, 23:50

and finally next week episode will be the "famous" "star war kind scenario" that I have been waiting for. Amazing episode this week. I really like what they did at the beginning with the OP and the ED. Very emotional episode that concludes this "General Election Arc". This week is going to be long and painful to wait.

serenade_beta · 2013-01-27, 00:04

Spoiler for ep17:

garbage · 2013-01-27, 00:38

great episode this week, dramatic but heartfelt, liked the OP & ED, glad too that they didn't compress it.

seems the next Acchan is coming ,Sensei-sensei ordered it, ... even Yuuko recognized it. so Nagisa or Chieri....well everything points to Nagisa at the moment. Quite something both of them can so easily make their kirara glow at anytime now. quite the contrast when Nagisa was leaving the stage with a couple of succesors but she's the only one with a glowing kirara.

Kazu-kun · 2013-01-27, 00:44

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Originally Posted by garbage

seems the next Acchan is coming ,Sensei-sensei ordered it, ... even Yuuko recognized it. so Nagisa or Chieri....

My interpretation of that scene was the Chieri and Nagisa's combined glow was similar to Acchan's. Something like...

Chieri + Nagisa = Acchan

At least when it comes to their glow.

Random Wanderer · 2013-01-27, 01:50

...So many girls I want to hug this week... Mimori and Kanata and Chieri (I always want to hug Chieri... somehow she always seems in need of hugs) and Takamina so very much (the look on her face when she heard she had come in second... even the use of the most awesome part of AKB Sanjou! as her theme couldn't offset the pain from the look of disappointment) and somehow even Yuuko looked like she needed hugs. I WANNA HUG THEM ALL!!

*coughs* Anyway. Folks can argue that not much happened this week, and I suppose chronologically not a lot of progress was made, but this was a significant event, both in terms of their lives as idols, and in terms of the girls' character development. Nagisa has (hopefully) finally come to understand that competition doesn't need to make you enemies with each other.

Last week Chieri steadfastly refused to let her father run her life... and this week she took that to another level by realizing (perhaps unconsciously) that if she leaves just because he's trying to make her stay, she's still letting him indirectly control her life, letting him force her away from who she wants to be, and what she wants to do. ...Well, maybe I'm giving her too much credit, and it was just for the fans' sake that she stayed, but still, it's true, and I hope if she hasn't realized it, she will. If he doesn't want her to leave, and she leaves to spite him, in a way she is still letting him control her actions. To truly be free of him, she must make her own choices regardless of what he wants.

The other understudies had various epiphanies about not giving up, about how much they meant to each other, etc. This was an important character development episode, and with all the build up it could not have been skipped, and should not have been compressed. I say they did this right, and they did this well. There was emotion in this episode, and powerful moments. I felt myself tearing up at times. They did well.

Now that it is done, on to the next stage. I think evil is going to show more of its true colors soon, and the girls are going to need every bit of strength they have gained to face it.

ranchan13 · 2013-01-27, 03:12

I'm pretty sure that Nagisa is slated to be the successor to Acchan. The way she glowed as she ran off the stage after the winners were announced, her vision at the beginning of episode 14, and Chieri as a rival? I have this vision of the top 3 of the next generation of successors.
Nagisa=Acchan
Chieri=Yuuko
And of course, we all know that Kanata is destined to become Takamina

Poor Yuuko, already declared that she intends to be the Center Nova, and now has to fight just to keep her spot as Yuuko from Chieri, as well as fend off two others who have all the ability to be Center Nova if they only realize what they're capable of.

Kazu-kun · 2013-01-27, 03:45

We're talking Kawamori here. Nagisa becoming Acchan is way too obvious, and there's enough foreshadowing suggesting they might get to keep their names instead of taking on the name of AKB members.

As for the Center Nova, my money is still on Chieri and Nagisa forming a Center Nova duo. Specially after this episode.

Raiga · 2013-01-27, 03:56

Mimori and Tomochin best speeches.

Very, very emotional episode jam-packed with valuable character moments. The orchestral version of the ED was an especially nice touch. While Kibou ni Tsuite still takes top spot in my eyes, I'm quite fond of the new ED, and the new OP is gradually growing on me.

sa547 · 2013-01-27, 04:55

Checked out FF.net, and this time there now five fics posted (one is even written in Indonesian):
http://www.fanfiction.net/anime/AKB0048/

BTW, some think this is the worst episode, but otherwise it's emotionally moving; somehow they -- especially Okada -- were able to capture the tense, heart-wringing drama of the real-life elections, as even the normally cool, reserved girls spill out their guts right there.

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We're talking Kawamori here. Nagisa becoming Acchan is way too obvious, and there's enough foreshadowing suggesting they might get to keep their names instead of taking on the name of AKB members.

As for the Center Nova, my money is still on Chieri and Nagisa forming a Center Nova duo. Specially after this episode.

Looks more like it, as they could possibly be the first generation to break tradition by using their real names. Besides, the next-gen Acchan struck me more, by her demeanor, as a Zen practitioner than an aggressive competitor and performer.

mechdra · 2013-01-27, 06:53

I still think Nagisa will likely to bge the next Acchan. She is very competative and aggressive if she wants to. Just look at her table tennis match with Kanata. The way the From the looks of the ending, Nagisa is the cause of the Kirara to glow.

Azuma Denton · 2013-01-27, 06:59

A very emotional episode.
Love this episode. Glad thay they spend one episode on this General Election episode.

Love Mimorin, Tomochin, and Takamina's speech. Poor Tomochin, from 3rd place in pleminary result to 8th place and losing to Chieri. No wonder she seems down in the ED credit. Sayaka also seen downed.

Looks like only Mayuyu and Yukirin is the one not affected by the ranking.

And i wonder what's next for AKB0048 after the general election?

mechdra · 2013-01-27, 07:17

The succession arc will begin soon. Looking at the PV, Acchan the 14th will be the main focus of this season.

Looking at the timeline, is Tomochin from the 74th generation?

chaosprophet · 2013-01-27, 08:17

While I can see where the "they will keep their names" theory is coming from, I think they will become successors. It was a main point of the story u7ntil now, and like mechdra said, if the PV is to be believed, it will be a main point from now on.

In any way, if those last 4 episodes are an example, I think they will deliver a pretty fun story either way.

Now waiting for the rumored "star wars epic" like episode.

2013-01-26, 20:29	Link #3086
chaosprophet Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brazil	More detailed thoughts about the episode: Spoiler for ep17/4: Well great episode all around. It closes the "election arc" really well, giving us more exposition about other characters and developing others. Some of the speeches were really good, Like Mimori's and Tomochin's one. Takamina, Yuuko, Chieri, and Kojiharu ones were also good. A very emotional moment for many girls, both from the selected one and the ones that didn't get in. Nagisa line at the end, that she will be "hard to beat", comes in full circle with Chieri says the same thing back on episode 2, when she is stuck below the chandelier. __________________

2013-01-26, 22:41	Link #3087
ars89 One-Eyed Dragon Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NJ, USA	Spoiler for ep 17: Well Chieri got one better than what i was expecting. Glad she chose not to quit. Good thing Nagisa finally got her fighting spirit. The speeches were all good. Figures Yuuko would be on top though. __________________ My Anime List

2013-01-26, 23:50	Link #3088
RDF2050 Superidol Join Date: Dec 2008 Age: 34	and finally next week episode will be the "famous" "star war kind scenario" that I have been waiting for. Amazing episode this week. I really like what they did at the beginning with the OP and the ED. Very emotional episode that concludes this "General Election Arc". This week is going to be long and painful to wait. __________________ Last edited by RDF2050; 2013-01-27 at 00:13.

2013-01-27, 00:04	Link #3089
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Spoiler for ep17: Whew, that sure was dramatic... In a good meaning. Though Chieri's... panic was considerably... entertaining. People in the anime clearly could tell that she was just extremely nervous, but to be honest, it looked more like she was in an R-18 doujin situation to me... Takamina...e.... __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2013-01-27, 00:38	Link #3090
garbage Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011	great episode this week, dramatic but heartfelt, liked the OP & ED, glad too that they didn't compress it. seems the next Acchan is coming ,Sensei-sensei ordered it, ... even Yuuko recognized it. so Nagisa or Chieri....well everything points to Nagisa at the moment. Quite something both of them can so easily make their kirara glow at anytime now. quite the contrast when Nagisa was leaving the stage with a couple of succesors but she's the only one with a glowing kirara. __________________

2013-01-26, 13:52	Link #3081
xizro345 King's Justice Join Date: Apr 2004	I still think this episode shoule have been easily compressed, and the only reason I believe they didn't was how much is important in the case of the real AKB.

2013-01-26, 14:52	Link #3082
mechdra Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	The emotional level in ths episode is very high. I am glad the production team did not compressed it.

2013-01-26, 15:31	Link #3084
xizro345 King's Justice Join Date: Apr 2004	I'd rather have the plot moving forward. I wouldn't mind if they start giving answers, I really don't want them to have everything explained only in the last 2-3 episodes.

2013-01-27, 01:50	Link #3092
Random Wanderer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	...So many girls I want to hug this week... Mimori and Kanata and Chieri (I always want to hug Chieri... somehow she always seems in need of hugs) and Takamina so very much (the look on her face when she heard she had come in second... even the use of the most awesome part of AKB Sanjou! as her theme couldn't offset the pain from the look of disappointment) and somehow even Yuuko looked like she needed hugs. I WANNA HUG THEM ALL!! coughs Anyway. Folks can argue that not much happened this week, and I suppose chronologically not a lot of progress was made, but this was a significant event, both in terms of their lives as idols, and in terms of the girls' character development. Nagisa has (hopefully) finally come to understand that competition doesn't need to make you enemies with each other. Last week Chieri steadfastly refused to let her father run her life... and this week she took that to another level by realizing (perhaps unconsciously) that if she leaves just because he's trying to make her stay, she's still letting him indirectly control her life, letting him force her away from who she wants to be, and what she wants to do. ...Well, maybe I'm giving her too much credit, and it was just for the fans' sake that she stayed, but still, it's true, and I hope if she hasn't realized it, she will. If he doesn't want her to leave, and she leaves to spite him, in a way she is still letting him control her actions. To truly be free of him, she must make her own choices regardless of what he wants. The other understudies had various epiphanies about not giving up, about how much they meant to each other, etc. This was an important character development episode, and with all the build up it could not have been skipped, and should not have been compressed. I say they did this right, and they did this well. There was emotion in this episode, and powerful moments. I felt myself tearing up at times. They did well. Now that it is done, on to the next stage. I think evil is going to show more of its true colors soon, and the girls are going to need every bit of strength they have gained to face it. __________________

2013-01-27, 03:12	Link #3093
ranchan13 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I'm pretty sure that Nagisa is slated to be the successor to Acchan. The way she glowed as she ran off the stage after the winners were announced, her vision at the beginning of episode 14, and Chieri as a rival? I have this vision of the top 3 of the next generation of successors. Nagisa=Acchan Chieri=Yuuko And of course, we all know that Kanata is destined to become Takamina Poor Yuuko, already declared that she intends to be the Center Nova, and now has to fight just to keep her spot as Yuuko from Chieri, as well as fend off two others who have all the ability to be Center Nova if they only realize what they're capable of. __________________ Combat ELEment STrategic Integrated Artificial Lifeform

2013-01-27, 03:45	Link #3094
Kazu-kun Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	We're talking Kawamori here. Nagisa becoming Acchan is way too obvious, and there's enough foreshadowing suggesting they might get to keep their names instead of taking on the name of AKB members. As for the Center Nova, my money is still on Chieri and Nagisa forming a Center Nova duo. Specially after this episode. __________________

2013-01-27, 03:56	Link #3095
Raiga tl;dr Join Date: Jan 2009 Age: 32	Mimori and Tomochin best speeches. Very, very emotional episode jam-packed with valuable character moments. The orchestral version of the ED was an especially nice touch. While Kibou ni Tsuite still takes top spot in my eyes, I'm quite fond of the new ED, and the new OP is gradually growing on me. __________________

2013-01-27, 06:53	Link #3097
mechdra Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	I still think Nagisa will likely to bge the next Acchan. She is very competative and aggressive if she wants to. Just look at her table tennis match with Kanata. The way the From the looks of the ending, Nagisa is the cause of the Kirara to glow.

2013-01-27, 06:59	Link #3098
Azuma Denton ~AD~ Join Date: Oct 2006	A very emotional episode. Love this episode. Glad thay they spend one episode on this General Election episode. Love Mimorin, Tomochin, and Takamina's speech. Poor Tomochin, from 3rd place in pleminary result to 8th place and losing to Chieri. No wonder she seems down in the ED credit. Sayaka also seen downed. Looks like only Mayuyu and Yukirin is the one not affected by the ranking. And i wonder what's next for AKB0048 after the general election?

2013-01-27, 07:17	Link #3099
mechdra Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	The succession arc will begin soon. Looking at the PV, Acchan the 14th will be the main focus of this season. Looking at the timeline, is Tomochin from the 74th generation?

2013-01-27, 08:17	Link #3100
chaosprophet Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brazil	While I can see where the "they will keep their names" theory is coming from, I think they will become successors. It was a main point of the story u7ntil now, and like mechdra said, if the PV is to be believed, it will be a main point from now on. In any way, if those last 4 episodes are an example, I think they will deliver a pretty fun story either way. Now waiting for the rumored "star wars epic" like episode. __________________ Last edited by chaosprophet; 2013-01-27 at 08:36.