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Old 2014-08-22, 05:54   Link #501
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I'd also like to point out they called the Duck Hunt selection Duck Hunt. I don't think they'd straight up call them by their game series' title.
Though the picture is obviously fake, it needs to be pointed out that in the Japanese version the Ice Climbers are simply referred to as 'ICE CLIMBER'. So yeah, there is a precedent to just listing the name of the game as character name.
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Old 2014-08-22, 14:13   Link #502
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Except their name could feasibly be Ice Climber. You can be an ice climber.

You can't be a "duck hunt". Duck hunter maybe, but not duck hunt.
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Old 2014-08-22, 15:10   Link #503
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Except their name could feasibly be Ice Climber. You can be an ice climber.

You can't be a "duck hunt". Duck hunter maybe, but not duck hunt.
Also, it'd still be written in hiragana, katakana, or kanji anyway. I bet they're translating the games to English only after everything else is done.
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Old 2014-08-23, 05:56   Link #504
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Also, it'd still be written in hiragana, katakana, or kanji anyway. I bet they're translating the games to English only after everything else is done.
ICE CLIMBER was written in romaji (our writing system).

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Except their name could feasibly be Ice Climber. You can be an ice climber.

You can't be a "duck hunt". Duck hunter maybe, but not duck hunt.
Yeah, but the two Ice Climbers together couldn't be 'ICE CLIMBER' either. Not to mention 'Duck Hunt' can actually be correct in an obscure usage...

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14. a group of persons associated for the purpose of hunting; an association of hunters.
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Old 2014-08-23, 06:17   Link #505
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Old 2014-08-23, 09:36   Link #506
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ICE CLIMBER was written in romaji (our writing system).
So I guess, they could use Romaji, but still. I doubt everything would be in Romaji...
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Old 2014-08-23, 10:01   Link #507
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If Lucas is/was at risk of being cut due to the Mother franchise being nearly dead, I seriously doubt we'd get some random dog from half a game that's 30 years old. Don't get me wrong, I like Duck Hunt, but new franchises tend to be, well, current. You know, inclusions that will boost sales? Like, when Robin and Lucina (more so Robin, but Lucina was at the same time so can't differentiate who caused what) were announced, Fire Emblem Awakening sales shot up quite a sizable amount.
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Old 2014-08-25, 11:01   Link #508
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The leak appears to be real there are some youtube footages with Bowser Jr. and Shulk.
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Old 2014-08-25, 12:59   Link #509
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If that footage is fake then that's the greatest fake leak I've ever seen. Part of me wants to believe it's real though. Also, they apparently mentioned Lucas, Wolf, Ice Climbers, Chorus Men and Snake will all be DLC characters, but I'd say that's more doubtful than the footage. I guess we'll see though.~

The leak was apparently from someone in the ESRB ratings board, or at least that's what people are inferencing from the uploader's name.
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Old 2014-08-25, 13:14   Link #510
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If they've mentioned DLC, then I'm calling bullshit on it immediately. How would they even have DLC information? That's not something that would be getting rated along with the game. Further, Sakurai has gone on record as saying he won't even consider DLC until he's done with the main game, which he obviously isn't yet.

Also, ESRB rates based on a DVD of gameplay, not an actual product. The videos show gameplay from what appeared to be a 2DS (or maybe 3DS, hard to tell).
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Old 2014-08-25, 13:21   Link #511
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If they've mentioned DLC, then I'm calling bullshit on it immediately. How would they even have DLC information? That's not something that would be getting rated along with the game. Further, Sakurai has gone on record as saying he won't even consider DLC until he's done with the main game, which he obviously isn't yet.
there are 3 leaker only one said stuff about DLC. that said really hope its fake if Ganondorf is still a clone
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Old 2014-08-25, 14:27   Link #512
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there are 3 leaker only one said stuff about DLC. that said really hope its fake if Ganondorf is still a clone
I think it is inevitable he'll be the same as before, unfortunately. I just really, really, hope they buff him a bit so that he isn't the worst fucking character in the game.
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Old 2014-08-25, 15:57   Link #513
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I think it is inevitable he'll be the same as before, unfortunately. I just really, really, hope they buff him a bit so that he isn't the worst fucking character in the game.
its such shame he could have a really cool unique move set,but all settle for him to be at least as good as PJ M(hope)
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Old 2014-08-25, 16:02   Link #514
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Best part is he still has the sword (per the videos) for his taunt, but they won't give it to him for his moveset. It's like they're taunting the fans more than the opponents.
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Old 2014-08-25, 16:11   Link #515
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The leak appears to be real there are some youtube footages with Bowser Jr. and Shulk.
Not to mention that NOA has now tipped their hand by blocking the vidoes, further legitimating it.

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If they've mentioned DLC, then I'm calling bullshit on it immediately. How would they even have DLC information? That's not something that would be getting rated along with the game. Further, Sakurai has gone on record as saying he won't even consider DLC until he's done with the main game, which he obviously isn't yet.

Also, ESRB rates based on a DVD of gameplay, not an actual product. The videos show gameplay from what appeared to be a 2DS (or maybe 3DS, hard to tell).
I'm more upset that "dye in the wool" clones like Dark Pit have gotten in while actual unique characters like Ice Climbers are regulated to DLC just to pad out the roster. It's so completely backwards its not even funny.

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Best part is he still has the sword (per the videos) for his taunt, but they won't give it to him for his moveset. It's like they're taunting the fans more than the opponents.
I think we should face the fact that Ganondorf will never be properly represented. He's CF fanboy for all eternity.
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Old 2014-08-25, 16:27   Link #516
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Not to mention that NOA has now tipped their hand by blocking the vidoes, further legitimating it.
Not really. Any business would've done the same, regardless of it being legit or not. You either take it down for being an illegal leak, or you take it down for improperly representing your product. It really reveals nothing.

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I'm more upset that "dye in the wool" clones like Dark Pit have gotten in while actual unique characters like Ice Climbers are regulated to DLC just to pad out the roster. It's so completely backwards its not even funny.
There's no information (real information) on DLC yet, since they aren't even at that point. If Ice Climbers didn't make it in the initial cut, like it seems they haven't, I doubt they'd make it to DLC either unless Wii U and 3DS have different DLC. Clearly they'd have been cut due to technical limitations (though how that doesn't apply to Rosalina and Luna, I'm not sure).

For clones, they take like no time at all to make. They just pad the roster. They don't "steal" anyone's slot.

That said, Dark Pit is still stupid. Basically just Sakurai showing more favoritism towards Kid Icarus by giving Pit essentially a second set of moves/alternate stats for no apparent reason. At least Lucina is a completely different character from Marth, and Dr. Mario is at least technically a veteran. Dark Pit is just a recolor of Pit (even if in the actual game he's different, from an outside perspective he's just a recolor).

The one that makes me upset is Duck Hunt Dog. I get he's supposed to be the "retro" character now, in the same vein as Game and Watch and ROB, but still. He just feels like an asinine character to put in the game. He's literally a dog, with ducks. At least any previous animal was either super powered (Pokemon) or anthropomorphized (Star Fox).
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Old 2014-08-25, 16:34   Link #518
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The one that makes me upset is Duck Hunt Dog. I get he's supposed to be the "retro" character now, in the same vein as Game and Watch and ROB, but still. He just feels like an asinine character to put in the game. He's literally a dog, with ducks. At least any previous animal was either super powered (Pokemon) or anthropomorphized (Star Fox).
I completely agree. If there's one thing about the leak that upsets me, it's the fact that Duck Hunt Dog is in it. I can't imagine there being too many interesting ideas for a moveset. He isn't really that much of a character, much like G&W and ROB (who I also didn't like much).
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on topic: it seem Nintendo has issued copyright claims on the videos, petty much make it clear there legit

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Old 2014-08-25, 16:54   Link #520
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I completely agree. If there's one thing about the leak that upsets me, it's the fact that Duck Hunt Dog is in it. I can't imagine there being too many interesting ideas for a moveset. He isn't really that much of a character, much like G&W and ROB (who I also didn't like much).
It's not even about moveset, since Sakurai has proven he can make anyone work. It's just the feel of it. It's an actual dog. With ducks. But still an actual dog. I was hoping Pac-Man would take the retro slot this time, but seems not.

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on topic: it seem Nintendo has issued copyright claims on the videos, petty much make it clear there legit
Quoting myself again, because it proves nothing:

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Not really. Any business would've done the same, regardless of it being legit or not. You either take it down for being an illegal leak, or you take it down for improperly representing your product. It really reveals nothing.
Also, anyone can file the claim under Nintendo's name. Nintendo doesn't have to be the ones to actually do it. Imagine if they were actually fake, and they filed their own claim about 6 hours after they went up to try and make them seem more legitimate.

While I'm still about 97% sure they're real, it's still plausible that they're fake.
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