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Zeydra · 2012-09-16, 12:13

A question, something about the Kira and Cagali thing has always bugged me.

Spoiler for Spoilers about Kira from episode 41 of the original series:

Rising Dragon · 2012-09-16, 12:16

Impregnation is controlled for Coordinators. So it was a simple matter of Hibiki using his sperm with one of his wife's eggs for the fertilization process for Kira, while the two of them had sex to produce Cagalli.

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2012-09-16, 12:25

^Ah, you beat me to it, Rising. And I was gonna explain it

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Can't blame Zeydra for being confused though. The Hibiki flasback episode was kinda hard to swallow the first time I watched it.

Zeydra · 2012-09-16, 12:52

Ah, now it makes sense. Thanks for the info.

Gundamx · 2012-09-16, 13:35

Aren't They Supposed to be Twins?
(From what I remamber they remove one from the mother.)

Destined_Fate · 2012-09-16, 14:30

Yes they're twins. So most likely when she got pregnant they had Kira removed and put in a tube... Or they manipulated Kira inside her and she gave birth to both of them naturally only that Kira was modified. They than kept Kira and gave Cagalli away to the Lion with the hopes that she'll never learn her true parentage.

The weird thing is that even though Cagalli isn't modified she has blond hair yet neither of her biological parents has blonde hair. Maybe it was recessive... Or it's using Anime Logic.

kaito-kid · 2012-09-16, 15:43

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Or they manipulated Kira inside her and she gave birth to both of them naturally only that Kira was modified.

Kira was developed and is born from the artificial womb. That's the difference between him and all the other Coordinators.

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They than kept Kira and gave Cagalli away to the Lion with the hopes that she'll never learn her true parentage.

No, they didn't give away their children.. They were attacked by blue cosmos and only Kira and Cagalli survived.

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The weird thing is that even though Cagalli isn't modified she has blond hair yet neither of her biological parents has blonde hair. Maybe it was recessive... Or it's using Anime Logic.

Her father is blonde.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2012-09-16, 21:38

Boy I remember the first time I found out Kira and Cagalli were siblings. I wanted them to get it on, because I thought they had some good chemistry. But ending up as brother and sister was a cool twist in itself.

Destined_Fate · 2012-09-16, 21:41

Think if they had got it on or kissed before learning they were siblings. Now that would have been very awkward and it would be their parents fault. Not the kids fault that they felt a close connection together despite supposedly being stranger. So at least Flay being with Kira at that time prevented anything from happening between the siblings. If she wasn't though....

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2012-09-16, 21:43

Sharing a long open mouth kiss with some tongue didn't seem to affect Luke Skywalker and Leia.

Destined_Fate · 2012-09-16, 21:46

I'm sure it's something they don't talk about. Considering how emotional Cagalli is I don't think she would keep something that awkward to herself. Would be even more awkward if Athrun walked in on them when they're making out and he's the one that was given the picture, by Murrue or Cagalli's bodyguard, to give to Cagalli who dropped it or didn't have time to look at it yet.

Make out and seconds later they find out they're siblings.

Yeah...

Tak · 2012-09-17, 11:55

You know, Kira is the closest thing to a harem hero a Gundam show is ever going to get. Hell, there is even a fandom for Kira x Murrue...

Not that I oppose that pairing...

- Tak

Rising Dragon · 2012-09-17, 11:59

Doesn't Athrun have him beat as far as women attracted to him? Which was... four in Destiny.

Tak · 2012-09-17, 12:01

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Doesn't Athrun have him beat as far as women attracted to him? Which was... four in Destiny.

Not if you include the 3 unfortunate Astray girls

Besides, everyone left Athrun.

And I am not even sure if you should count Lacus as being attracted to him. They were kind of in an arranged situation.

While Kira had options... man, options.

Not that you really want to betray Lacus, its not a good idea...

- Tak (He isn't known as the bridejacker for nothing)

Destined_Fate · 2012-09-17, 12:50

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Doesn't Athrun have him beat as far as women attracted to him? Which was... four in Destiny.

Perhaps, though Lunamaria was more of just a crush and she moved on fast to Shinn after she thought he was dead. Not like it was going anywhere since he flat out rejected all her attempts to get to know her idol.

Rising Dragon · 2012-09-17, 12:50

I know. Still counts for whatever harem-ish aspect Athrun had. Still left him with three girls interested in him.

Destined_Fate · 2012-09-17, 12:52

At least Athrun can say none of his love interests died so he has that. Though it was funny how Cagalli felt about Athrun's engagement in SEED would later be felt by Athrun when he learned she was engaged to Yuna.

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2012-09-17, 12:52

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You know, Kira is the closest thing to a harem hero a Gundam show is ever going to get. Hell, there is even a fandom for Kira x Murrue...

- Tak

Have you seen Victory Gundam? The Gundam pilot, Usso Ewin, can charm more than 5 adult women. He's practically a (nice) pimp and he's not even 13 yet!

Tak · 2012-09-17, 12:54

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

Have you seen Victory Gundam? The Gundam pilot, Usso Ewin, can charm more than 5 adult women. He's practically a (nice) pimp and he's not even 13 yet!

Yeah, I have seen Victory Gundam. People who knows me probably remember what I think of it, so I won't repeat it here. It'd take too long, and it will become a rant.

Anyway, last time I checked, they all died. I guess thats part of his charm... eh?

Oh wait...

How could I forget, there is always Kamille Bidan.

- Tak

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2012-09-17, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Tak

Yeah, I have seen Victory Gundam. People who knows me probably remember what I think of it, so I won't repeat it here. It'd take too long, and it will become a rant.

Anyway, last time I checked, they all died. I guess thats part of his charm... eh?

Most of them died protecting or assisting him. So yeah, his charm is that good.

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Oh wait...

How could I forget, there is always Kamille Bidan.

- Tak

Poor Camille, most of the mature ladies he's interested to ignore him (I'm mainly looking at you, Reccoa) and many of those who're attracted to him are messed up in the head (Four, Rosammy, Sarah etc).

2012-09-16, 12:13	Link #4581
Zeydra A random passerby Join Date: Jul 2012 Age: 32	A question, something about the Kira and Cagali thing has always bugged me. Spoiler for Spoilers about Kira from episode 41 of the original series: How can they be brother and sister when he's supposed to be a man made kid? Did he originally start off inside the mother and then get removed very early on in the process? I just don't get how he could be a biological sibling.

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Impregnation is controlled for Coordinators. So it was a simple matter of Hibiki using his sperm with one of his wife's eggs for the fertilization process for Kira, while the two of them had sex to produce Cagalli. __________________

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Obelisk ze Tormentor Black Steel Knight Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indonesia	^Ah, you beat me to it, Rising. And I was gonna explain it . Can't blame Zeydra for being confused though. The Hibiki flasback episode was kinda hard to swallow the first time I watched it. __________________

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Tak Catholic = Cat addiction? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: MURICA!!	You know, Kira is the closest thing to a harem hero a Gundam show is ever going to get. Hell, there is even a fandom for Kira x Murrue... *Not that I oppose that* pairing... - Tak __________________ BLESSED IS OUR GOD, THE LORD OF MIRACLES, FOR HE HAS SUPPLIED AN ENTIRE BATTALION WITH JUST FIVE ROUNDS OF AMMO AND TWO GRENADES!!** Remember, the toes you step on today may be connected to the @ss you have to kiss tomorrow.

2012-09-17, 11:59	Link #4593
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Doesn't Athrun have him beat as far as women attracted to him? Which was... four in Destiny. __________________

2012-09-16, 12:52	Link #4584
Zeydra A random passerby Join Date: Jul 2012 Age: 32	Ah, now it makes sense. Thanks for the info.

2012-09-16, 13:35	Link #4585
Gundamx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Aren't They Supposed to be Twins? (From what I remamber they remove one from the mother.)

2012-09-16, 14:30	Link #4586
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	Yes they're twins. So most likely when she got pregnant they had Kira removed and put in a tube... Or they manipulated Kira inside her and she gave birth to both of them naturally only that Kira was modified. They than kept Kira and gave Cagalli away to the Lion with the hopes that she'll never learn her true parentage. The weird thing is that even though Cagalli isn't modified she has blond hair yet neither of her biological parents has blonde hair. Maybe it was recessive... Or it's using Anime Logic.

2012-09-16, 21:38	Link #4588
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	Boy I remember the first time I found out Kira and Cagalli were siblings. I wanted them to get it on, because I thought they had some good chemistry. But ending up as brother and sister was a cool twist in itself.

2012-09-16, 21:41	Link #4589
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	Think if they had got it on or kissed before learning they were siblings. Now that would have been very awkward and it would be their parents fault. Not the kids fault that they felt a close connection together despite supposedly being stranger. So at least Flay being with Kira at that time prevented anything from happening between the siblings. If she wasn't though....

2012-09-16, 21:43	Link #4590
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	Sharing a long open mouth kiss with some tongue didn't seem to affect Luke Skywalker and Leia.

2012-09-16, 21:46	Link #4591
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	I'm sure it's something they don't talk about. Considering how emotional Cagalli is I don't think she would keep something that awkward to herself. Would be even more awkward if Athrun walked in on them when they're making out and he's the one that was given the picture, by Murrue or Cagalli's bodyguard, to give to Cagalli who dropped it or didn't have time to look at it yet. Make out and seconds later they find out they're siblings. Yeah...

2012-09-17, 12:50	Link #4596
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	I know. Still counts for whatever harem-ish aspect Athrun had. Still left him with three girls interested in him. __________________

2012-09-17, 12:52	Link #4597
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	At least Athrun can say none of his love interests died so he has that. Though it was funny how Cagalli felt about Athrun's engagement in SEED would later be felt by Athrun when he learned she was engaged to Yuna.