2010-05-10, 18:11 | Link #13922 | |
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I'm disappointed with the father...I expected him to be different. Granted the anime has skewed my image, but he looks really, really mean. I don't care for his name either.
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This is definitely more of a seinen series now. It's past the light hearted shonen phase. MT has the complete version.
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2010-05-10, 18:20 | Link #13923 | |
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I actually like the father. He really gives off that "you know he's the bad guy the hero's going to have to defeat" kind of feeling. He looks and acts far more menacing than the Lestat wannabe in the anime. I expected him to treat his daughters like they were tools and symbols of his strength. I was also expecting him to treat Akasha as like he did as well - like some have mentioned, it doesn't look like Akasha and Issa's relationship is really that of husband and wife. Maybe it's how vampires act in a marriage but it doesn't look like a happy marriage, probably one out of convenience for political reasons or one to consolidate his power. So far, he treats Akasha like a maid or a nanny. |
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2010-05-10, 18:53 | Link #13926 | ||
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Are they even married? I wonder if she cares for him though. It would be nice if there was some love invovled, but like Rice said, they are vampires.
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2010-05-10, 18:53 | Link #13927 | |
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2010-05-10, 19:04 | Link #13928 |
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We don't know. I guess we'll just have to assume that they are for the time being. Akasha is the only mother of Issa's daughters to be seen. Maybe we'll see the mothers of Kokoa and Kahlua show up later. So far, it seems like Akasha's the only one "at his side" right now.
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2010-05-10, 19:15 | Link #13929 |
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Well, I'm not sure about Kokoa, but Inner Moka was really arrogant and bad in the beginning-- definitely a monster who belonged to that family. It wasn't until Tsukune entered her life that she began to change. Heck, when he went ghoul, she was ready to kill him without shedding a single tear.
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2010-05-10, 19:39 | Link #13931 | |
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2010-05-10, 19:44 | Link #13932 | |
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Ura-chan was very hesitant about doing it. Kurumu even called her out on it: I see your hands shaking. There's even a panel right before the Chairman and Ruby shows up, there's that something that resembles a tear running down her cheek: here. It might be a tear, sweat or water. I assumed it was a tear or two since Ikeda-sensei draws round tears. |
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2010-05-10, 20:10 | Link #13933 |
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Wrong? You speak with such tact, as always. Inner Moka, even in the beginning, never showed hatred towards Tsukune. Also, she was relentless with her opponents, but only used the necessary strength to defeat them instead of pulverizing them to dust. One could debate that her feelings for Tsukune started once Outer Moka met her on some level of consciousness, but she still was not as mean as her family is. However, I think this is due to the limitation of the story itself, Ikeda may not have decided what her family would be like so early in the manga.
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2010-05-10, 20:18 | Link #13934 | |
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Awww, thats part of my charm.
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2010-05-10, 20:42 | Link #13935 | |
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I think Chapter 40 of S1 spells out how she really felt about him: she smiled, blushed, and sighed when she told him "I don't feel anything for you." Thing about this chapter was that it was supposed to have occurred really early into the story line. If she was mean to him, she wouldn't react like that. Personally, I think Ura-chan liked him from the very start. Last edited by FriedRice84; 2010-05-10 at 20:58. |
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2010-05-10, 23:01 | Link #13937 |
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So true, so true. XD
And if Daddy Issa married Akasha as a prize bride, one has to wonder how strong 'he' is to gain enough favor with the Euro Vampire clans to allow his marriage to Akasha. The fact that the two of them produced a silver-haired, red-eyed vampire child does speak volumes for her lineage. And it has been established that Moka is a tsundere so her being 'mean' is really doesn't sum it up. Yes, she will hit Tsukune if she's embarrassed but just getting to that point is a trip to hell and back so taking a hit is nothing.
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2010-05-10, 23:28 | Link #13938 | |
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Personally I think the actions of the young Moka in the memory, when she went to look for Tsukune in chapter 30, might be a leak of her true feelings for Tsukune. I mean, even when she didn't know who Tsukune was, she couldn't get him out of her head. To me it's obviously suggesting that Inner Moka might be just as attracted foreword Tsukune as her Outer self, and that attraction might have started from the time she met Tsukune, through her Outer personality. The difference between both Moka's feelings for Tsukune, is that Inner Moka, due to her harsh upbringing needed more time to get used to the idea of having feelings for Tsukune, then her Outer personality. Going back to chapter 30. I kind of wonder what kind of childhood Akuha had, for her to display such attitude as well as her not displaying any discomfort after killing someone - I mean for Akuha to develop such a attitude her childhood must have been a lot darker then what Moka, Kahula and Kokoa went through. Well it's obvious that she's a vampire so killing is probably something natural for them, but as we can see from Moka, Kokoa and even partially Kahula, even a vampire's have emotions and are still displaying feelings, while when I saw Akuha fight in chapter 30, I couldn't shake the feeling that for Akuha, killing was something as natural as breathing, and it makes me shudder to think what she had to live through as a child, to become like that. Another thing that I noticed is that, it might be possible that Inner Moka's arrogance and pride, actually came from Akuha herself, since the attitude Akuha had, after "defeating" her opponents is to me, similar to how Inner Moka act's when she is fighting with someone, meaning that it might be something that she developed after she had met Akuha, and while her memories of that event are still sealed, it's probably something that became instinctive for Inner Moka to do. Last edited by Chris38; 2010-05-11 at 00:02. |
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2010-05-11, 01:14 | Link #13940 | ||
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I'm surprised the father's name wasn't starbucks or...Colombian? His character looks awful, pitting his daughters against each other in a battle to death the first day they meet...well, that and the underworld business, gotta wonder what Akasha found in him:P I liked this chapter very much, because I couldn't discern which of the two events was more important: Tsukune&co finding out about Moka's past, or the others getting on the defence. Most confusing was the part where Issa asked them to stop. Neither had started getting serious, and yet he said he knew by then how strong they truly were. Doesn't look like someone who would underestimate their opponent...gotta wonder how he handles his own fights! Quote:
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