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konart · 2011-12-02, 04:21

See no problem, really. If you have additional rockets for stinger\igla it's pretty much the same - you just have to choose the right spot to fire from.

And rockets were pretty useless against jets in BF2 anyway.

Chase · 2011-12-02, 06:48

Does not matter, it will not bring the chopper down. Not against any decent chopper pilot and someone in the chopper repairing it(something DICE didn't seem to take into account). We are not talking about Jets here. 3 people with stingers vs 1 chopper=the chopper wins still. The flares already recovered way too fast from the beginning, chopper can fly out your range in time, around stuff and now you buffed the damage out put of the chopper and nerf the damage of the stinger? It already took a lot from jump start but now you made it basically impossible now to even disable it which was what i use to try to accomplish just to get it off my team's back. You basically are just depended on your own air support. The soflam+Javelin is another option but requires your teammate and can be very time consuming(also the javelin doesn't do the damage it should). A lot of times resulting you not helping your team capture flags and you getting taken out. They may as well take the stinger out of the game now as its rendered useless.

Also the IRNV is useless now, campers and snipers got their wish. Was it overpowered? Eh i can't say either way but they nerfed it to oblivion. That may as well be removed from the game also. What else..............yeah those mines are joke now to showing up on radar like that. You don't have to spot them half the time as they show up the instant they are dropped on the ground. They need to start doing polls before the make some of the changes they make to the game balance wise. Fixes= B+ Balance choices=F

konart · 2011-12-02, 07:56

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Originally Posted by Chase

Does not matter, it will not bring the chopper down. Not against any decent chopper pilot and someone in the chopper repairing it(something DICE didn't seem to take into account). We are not talking about Jets here. 3 people with stingers vs 1 chopper=the chopper wins still. The flares already recovered way too fast from the beginning, chopper can fly out your range in time, around stuff and now you buffed the damage out put of the chopper and nerf the damage of the stinger? It already took a lot from jump start but now you made it basically impossible now to even disable it which was what i use to try to accomplish just to get it off my team's back. You basically are just depended on your own air support. The soflam+Javelin is another option but requires your teammate and can be very time consuming(also the javelin doesn't do the damage it should). A lot of times resulting you not helping your team capture flags and you getting taken out. They may as well take the stinger out of the game now as its rendered useless.

Also the IRNV is useless now, campers and snipers got their wish. Was it overpowered? Eh i can't say either way but they nerfed it to oblivion. That may as well be removed from the game also. What else..............yeah those mines are joke now to showing up on radar like that. You don't have to spot them half the time as they show up the instant they are dropped on the ground. They need to start doing polls before the make some of the changes they make to the game balance wise. Fixes= B+ Balance choices=F

Did they do something to IRNV? 0_o Never noticed the changes

Anyway, this thing is OP:

I mean... srsly, it's almost like he's playing Serious Sam or Bulletstorm.

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2011-12-02, 09:03

MM, I should look at the patch notes at some point.

Also, holy crap at the USAS-12, that's insane. Although, he did cherry pick the kills of him going against groups of people tightly packed who didn't know he was there (or were idiots). Metro is a fairly easy troll worthy environment too. Once you're on the backfoot down the bottom there half the fight goes out of them.

konart · 2011-12-02, 09:50

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Originally Posted by Mr Hat and Clogs

MM, I should look at the patch notes at some point.

Also, holy crap at the USAS-12, that's insane. Although, he did cherry pick the kills of him going against groups of people tightly packed who didn't know he was there (or were idiots). Metro is a fairly easy troll worthy environment too. Once you're on the backfoot down the bottom there half the fight goes out of them.

I guess I'm just unlucky, almosts always playing against people who care about flags

On a side note:

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Battlefield 3: Back to Karkand is coming December 6th on PS3, December 13th on PC and Xbox 360

Kaihan · 2011-12-02, 10:03

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Originally Posted by konart

Did they do something to IRNV? 0_o Never noticed the changes

After the nerf patch

Patch seems to be on PS3, don't think PC has it yet.

As for the AT mine? there was no reason to nerf that, it was as fine as it was. If the tank driver got hit by the AT mine, then it was their fault for not paying attention.

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2011-12-02, 10:22

True that about AT mines. Does the IR scope work 'properly' on night maps? or is it the same as in that video. I could see them nerfing it that way for those using them in day maps/hot areas, but night maps it should still show up the way it used to. Otherwise, yeah, totally useless now.. le sigh, cry baby snipers.

Kaihan · 2011-12-02, 10:35

I play on the PC version so cant judge about it however based on that video, the smoke in metro just messes up with the IRNV.
There was another video of bazaar where looking into the scope seem foggy.

konart · 2011-12-02, 11:11

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Originally Posted by Kaihan

After the nerf patch

Patch seems to be on PS3, don't think PC has it yet.

As for the AT mine? there was no reason to nerf that, it was as fine as it was. If the tank driver got hit by the AT mine, then it was their fault for not paying attention.

The very same patch for PC was before the one for PS3, and IRNV wasn't nerfed there. Not THAT much at least

Jaden · 2011-12-02, 11:46

USAS should rape a squad when you take them by suprise. The FRAG rounds on Hardcore are a little obscene though. They are supposed to be suppression, but people die really easily from just the splash damage.

If they weren't so OP I'd like the ability to carry multiple types of rounds.

Chase · 2011-12-02, 12:13

Yeah that USAS is crazy.lol i use that gun every once and a while now(USAS) when i get pissed at another team.

I use to use it a lot with frag rounds of course. I remember seeing it for the first time in this game on metro, thought i had the drop on a squad only to hear what i thought were a bunch of explosives going off around me. I got disoriented and shrapnel+bodies started flying everywhere. It was those frag round they were using with it. I didn't know which way to shoot and if you don't see that person with that gun right off the bat, you have no chance nor does anyone near you. That gun also seems to have more range than it should. I shot someone from inside the building at the back of "D" on seinne all the way across the street who was in another building themselves. Only took 5 quick shots with frag rounds. Shooting someone up close near you and near a wall also does damage to the user, possibility killing you.

grylsyjaeger · 2011-12-02, 22:55

Damn I never knew the USAS and frag were so effective. I've been killed a couple of times by frag rounds but never to the scale that bloke was unleashing them.

Being shot at frag rounds feels like someone in a LAV or BMP is opening up with the autocannon... XD

I'll be sure to give the USAS a go tonight and try and unlock those rounds. >:3

konart · 2011-12-05, 07:26

The second patch for PC is on the way:

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3...4775976450221/

Spoiler for changelog:

Jaden · 2011-12-05, 13:34

Well, I'm glad they are removing the IRNV. Well, not remove but in that state no one's going to use it.

There was no real point using any other scope, and it was a shame having to play with the great graphics turned into 2 colors. Reminded me of the days when we kids played counter-strike with glowing head models and monotone textures.

blakstealth · 2011-12-05, 17:33

Someone say USAS?

Jaden · 2011-12-05, 18:29

Makes me think of the Expendables, all that. Best parts of the movie was the guy raging with his FRAG round shotgun.

blaze0041 · 2011-12-06, 06:50

The second patch, with most of the Back to Karkand content packed in, seems to be about 3.9GB. Anyone else have to download this much?
Also, seems that once the Official DICE Platoon hits 15000 fans, all of them will receive a nice gift (or gifts) of some sort (and that fan counter is moving up quite fast).
https://www.facebook.com/battlefield...30588580348446

konart · 2011-12-06, 07:39

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Originally Posted by blaze0041

The second patch, with most of the Back to Karkand content packed in, seems to be about 3.9GB. Anyone else have to download this much?
Also, seems that once the Official DICE Platoon hits 15000 fans, all of them will receive a nice gift (or gifts) of some sort (and that fan counter is moving up quite fast).
https://www.facebook.com/battlefield...30588580348446

yeah, 3.9 or so.

The tower on Caspian Border now falls down at the end of the game

-Sho- · 2011-12-06, 18:14

Usas really ? for me it's meh , cuz lot of people will only play with... as if Rocket wasn't enough. But well.

blakstealth · 2011-12-06, 18:52

lord...

you all wish the games played out like that. :P

2011-12-02, 04:21	Link #521
konart Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Moscow, RU Age: 35	See no problem, really. If you have additional rockets for stinger\igla it's pretty much the same - you just have to choose the right spot to fire from. And rockets were pretty useless against jets in BF2 anyway. __________________

2011-12-02, 06:48	Link #522
Chase Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007	Does not matter, it will not bring the chopper down. Not against any decent chopper pilot and someone in the chopper repairing it(something DICE didn't seem to take into account). We are not talking about Jets here. 3 people with stingers vs 1 chopper=the chopper wins still. The flares already recovered way too fast from the beginning, chopper can fly out your range in time, around stuff and now you buffed the damage out put of the chopper and nerf the damage of the stinger? It already took a lot from jump start but now you made it basically impossible now to even disable it which was what i use to try to accomplish just to get it off my team's back. You basically are just depended on your own air support. The soflam+Javelin is another option but requires your teammate and can be very time consuming(also the javelin doesn't do the damage it should). A lot of times resulting you not helping your team capture flags and you getting taken out. They may as well take the stinger out of the game now as its rendered useless. Also the IRNV is useless now, campers and snipers got their wish. Was it overpowered? Eh i can't say either way but they nerfed it to oblivion. That may as well be removed from the game also. What else..............yeah those mines are joke now to showing up on radar like that. You don't have to spot them half the time as they show up the instant they are dropped on the ground. They need to start doing polls before the make some of the changes they make to the game balance wise. Fixes= B+ Balance choices=F __________________ Currently Playing: Devil May Cry 4:SE The Witch and the Hundred Knight Battlefield 4 Last edited by Chase; 2011-12-02 at 07:06.

2011-12-02, 09:03	Link #524
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	MM, I should look at the patch notes at some point. Also, holy crap at the USAS-12, that's insane. Although, he did cherry pick the kills of him going against groups of people tightly packed who didn't know he was there (or were idiots). Metro is a fairly easy troll worthy environment too. Once you're on the backfoot down the bottom there half the fight goes out of them. __________________

2011-12-02, 10:22	Link #527
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	True that about AT mines. Does the IR scope work 'properly' on night maps? or is it the same as in that video. I could see them nerfing it that way for those using them in day maps/hot areas, but night maps it should still show up the way it used to. Otherwise, yeah, totally useless now.. le sigh, cry baby snipers. __________________

2011-12-02, 11:46	Link #530
Jaden Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	USAS should rape a squad when you take them by suprise. The FRAG rounds on Hardcore are a little obscene though. They are supposed to be suppression, but people die really easily from just the splash damage. If they weren't so OP I'd like the ability to carry multiple types of rounds. __________________

2011-12-02, 10:35	Link #528
Kaihan Barrel! Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: still under a rock Age: 34	I play on the PC version so cant judge about it however based on that video, the smoke in metro just messes up with the IRNV. There was another video of bazaar where looking into the scope seem foggy.

2011-12-02, 12:13	Link #531
Chase Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007	Yeah that USAS is crazy.lol i use that gun every once and a while now(USAS) when i get pissed at another team.I use to use it a lot with frag rounds of course. I remember seeing it for the first time in this game on metro, thought i had the drop on a squad only to hear what i thought were a bunch of explosives going off around me. I got disoriented and shrapnel+bodies started flying everywhere. It was those frag round they were using with it. I didn't know which way to shoot and if you don't see that person with that gun right off the bat, you have no chance nor does anyone near you. That gun also seems to have more range than it should. I shot someone from inside the building at the back of "D" on seinne all the way across the street who was in another building themselves. Only took 5 quick shots with frag rounds. Shooting someone up close near you and near a wall also does damage to the user, possibility killing you. __________________ Currently Playing: Devil May Cry 4:SE The Witch and the Hundred Knight Battlefield 4

2011-12-02, 22:55	Link #532
grylsyjaeger Onani Master Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The girl's bathroom Age: 34	Damn I never knew the USAS and frag were so effective. I've been killed a couple of times by frag rounds but never to the scale that bloke was unleashing them. Being shot at frag rounds feels like someone in a LAV or BMP is opening up with the autocannon... XD I'll be sure to give the USAS a go tonight and try and unlock those rounds. >:3 __________________ "It doesn't mean much, we never had a chance."

2011-12-05, 07:26	Link #533
konart Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Moscow, RU Age: 35	The second patch for PC is on the way: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3...4775976450221/ Spoiler for changelog: Bugfixes Fixed a problem with spawn timer now showing blue border on startup and lost spawn point Fixed a problem where player who joined queuing on End of round got spawn screen stuck on screen, but unable to do anything with it untill next round loaded Fixed a problem where camera would change to 3rd person on killcam when killcam was turned off in server settings Fixed stat references on several dogtags Fixed for surveillance ribbon not counting TUGS Fixed a missing combat area lines on the minimap for Grand Bazaar conquest small Moved a tank spawn in US base on Caspian Border so it would not be destroyed by a falling tree Fixed a problem where placing C4 with the russians soldier was playing US faction VO Fixed a problem where TV guided missiles could be shot into its own helicopter and destroy it Fixed a problem when attempting to fire lock on weapons without a target Tweaked the chat, it should now be a bit easier to read Fixed several vehicles that did not properly shoot rockets and guns towards their predictive sights Fixed the G17 Supressed Laser not working properly Added alternate HUD colors to help colorblinds Added a network interpolation setting. This allows users with good bandwidth reduce latency, but might increase some stuttering. The user can find what works best for his connection by tweaking the slider. Increased the Spawn protection radius on TDM Fixed a problem with smoke on land vehicles, Missiles should now miss more often Fixed a problem where users could end up with IRNV scope in any vehicle Fixed a problem where player dies if vaulting over a ledge and into water while sprinting Fixed several crashes and increased general stability Fixed a problem where the user was unable to revive two players that have the bodies one over the other Fixed so you can assign an axis and use as a digital input. This makes it possible for the player (on pc) to assign one of the sticks on a gameped to be used for throttle/brake. Fixed a problem with the Kill camera acting up when suiciding from parachute Fixed air radar was showing to much. now lasertagged, heatsignature above threshold, enemy missiles and capture points are only visible on air radar Fixed a problem where the game would enter a technical hang if the user pressed pause menu and tilde at the same time Fixed a problem where you could get green flashes on screen You can now reassign cycle weapons Fixed so the weapon zooms automatically after bipod deploy is gone when using zoom toggle Fixed a problem where the parachute would stay stuck in air if the owner was killed Balance Tweaks Fixed several weapons so they are properly suppressed and hide the player on the minimap when fired. Tweaked Tactical Light so it is not as blinding over longer ranges. Tweaked the IRNV scope so it is limited to usage only at close range. Reduced heat masking effectiveness of Spec Ops Camo. Fixed a bug where Ammo spec would give additional 40mm grenades instead of Frag spec. Increased the number of additional 40mm grenades from Frag spec. Fixed so AT mines only live for 20 seconds after a player dies to prevent infinite mines. Increased the Time to Live on sniper caliber rounds to allow extreme distance shots. Fixed several weapon descriptions, calibers, and fire rates. The weapons themselves have not changed. Fixed so the M9 and MP443 pistol can be equipped by the opposing faction when it is unlocked at 100 kills. Fixed Laser Guided Missiles missing their targets if the target is moving too fast. Reduced the effectiveness of Stealth on Air Vehicles. Reduced the effectiveness of Beam Scanning for Jets. Reduced the damage done to Armored Vehicles and Infantry from AA guns. Increased the damage RPGs and Tank shells do to AA vehicles. Slightly decreased the accuracy for all weapons on fully automatic, burst fire is now preferable at mid to long range. Increased the effective accuracy of long bursts for LMGs when using a bipod. Slightly increased the range of the 44magnum bullets. Increased the close range damage of 4.6x30mm and 5.7x28mm bullets. Increased the reload time of the Mortar from 3.5sec to 4.8sec and increased the time it takes before a shell hits the ground. Reduced the aimed accuracy bonus given by a Suppressor for the MP7, P90, PP2000, PP-19, and UMP45. Increased the range and FOV for designating targets with the SOFLAM and vehicle Laser Designators. Decreased the effectiveness of 12g FRAG ammo when equipped on semi-automatic and automatic shotguns. Slightly Increased the power of Fighter Jet Cannons against all vehicle targets, especially Helicopters. Decreased the power of Miniguns against Jets and Helicopters. Increased the power of Stingers against Jets. Flares reload times for Jets and Helicopter Gunners have been increased. Tweaked the AN94 so its burst fire better conveys the real world advantage offered by this weapon. Added Single Shot to the AN94 as an available fire mode. Slightly increased the recoil on the M416 and removed the Burst Fire mode (this weapon incorrectly had burst fire, which was not authentic). Tweaked the spawns for TDM on Kharg Island, Grand Bazaar, Caspian Border, Seine Crossing, Operation Firestorm, Damavand Peak and Noshahar Canals Moved a tank spawn in US base on Caspian Border so it would not be destroyed by a falling tree Tweaked the Gas station Capture area on Conquest on Caspian Border Tweaked the max vehicle height on Noshahar Canals __________________

2011-12-05, 13:34	Link #534
Jaden Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Well, I'm glad they are removing the IRNV. Well, not remove but in that state no one's going to use it. There was no real point using any other scope, and it was a shame having to play with the great graphics turned into 2 colors. Reminded me of the days when we kids played counter-strike with glowing head models and monotone textures. __________________

2011-12-05, 17:33	Link #535
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	Someone say USAS? <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/zesdXj0oLQQ">watch on YouTube</a>.</p>

2011-12-05, 18:29	Link #536
Jaden Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Makes me think of the Expendables, all that. Best parts of the movie was the guy raging with his FRAG round shotgun. __________________

2011-12-06, 06:50	Link #537
blaze0041 a.k.a. Flammenkrieg IT Support Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Down under...	The second patch, with most of the Back to Karkand content packed in, seems to be about 3.9GB. Anyone else have to download this much? Also, seems that once the Official DICE Platoon hits 15000 fans, all of them will receive a nice gift (or gifts) of some sort (and that fan counter is moving up quite fast). https://www.facebook.com/battlefield...30588580348446 __________________ "Make sure you do a good job with your life's blueprint." - Kanna Makino

2011-12-06, 18:14	Link #539
-Sho- ~Omedetô~ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell !	Usas really ? for me it's meh , cuz lot of people will only play with... as if Rocket wasn't enough. But well.

2011-12-06, 18:52	Link #540
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	lord... <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/M-BX_DATeik">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> you all wish the games played out like that. :P Last edited by blakstealth; 2011-12-06 at 19:47.