2012-12-17, 12:51 | Link #2641 | |
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The very last thing you need is a China-scenario where an aggressive pro-birth campaign then lead to vicious population curbing plans due to over-growth. Right now from what I read Japan has one of the most expensive food cost (due to farm lobby and a decline interest in farming by the younger generation), does Japan has a plan to feed an "growing" population? |
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2012-12-17, 14:14 | Link #2642 | |
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I know the situation is not all perfect in France because of the shortage of jobs. However having an increase in the population also means that the fools sitting on top of the country will be forcede to respond to the growing population and change the system to fit everyone in. Just throw the archaic parts of the system down the trash bin already! I think that's too easy to blame the declining interest in farming; heck, we see that everywhere among the G8 countries, including Canada for God's sake. However considering that, I think someone someday will need to axe the farm lobby, which is getting weaker with a shrinking labour force but are still managing to hold the entire population hostage with their crazy pricing on foods. |
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2012-12-17, 16:46 | Link #2643 | |
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2012-12-17, 16:52 | Link #2645 | |
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Then there is always the notion of whether those being subsidized are "deserving." Presumably if you are from a generation when having children was not subsidized, you might find it hard to sympathize with young families today. I bet few Japanese people have a clue about that $77,000 figure the Times cited. I suspect if asked in a poll what it costs to raise a child over the first five years of life, the answers would be half that figure or less.
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2012-12-17, 17:02 | Link #2646 | |
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2012-12-17, 17:10 | Link #2647 | |
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Either way, anything (mindsets, policies, etc.) that doesn't help future generations is just fundamentally plain wrong when numbers are on the table to prove how bad the issue is getting at without a more serious course of action here. |
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2012-12-17, 20:55 | Link #2648 | |
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2012-12-18, 00:50 | Link #2649 | |||
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Here. You can check the sources yourself. France has been very successful in increasing it's birth rates. That said, figuring out why some countries have higher birth rates then others is tricky. Ireland has little in the way of direct incentives but still has one of the highest fertility rates in Europe. Likewise, the USA still has little trouble in keeping it's fertility rates up in it's general population. Quote:
Furthermore, the rural elderly must be seeing how their communities are becoming deserted and wondering how they're going to keep them from dying out. As a country dominated by conservative politics, more kids would seem to hit the buttons of almost every constituency. Of course they haven't managed to do anything about it so I'm pretty stumped. |
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2012-12-18, 09:21 | Link #2650 | |
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2012-12-18, 12:48 | Link #2652 | |
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I mean, how many anime or manga deal with pregnancy outside of hentai mags anyway? Are girls subconsciously being drilled expect every mate must be a prince out of a Shoujo manga, and every guy see themselves are Harem LN MCs with a train of aggressive foreign girls? With the coming of "3D virtual girlfriend," wouldn't that make things worse? |
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2012-12-18, 19:15 | Link #2654 | |
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2012-12-18, 23:04 | Link #2655 | |||
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Please explain the last paragraph. I'm at loss here. P.S. I also think more anime/manga series should also add something about having children. The most powerful tool all media have in Japan to send widespread messages should be put to use in preaching something for future generations. |
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2012-12-19, 00:34 | Link #2656 |
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Japan is overpopulated. They should just tough it out until their population is about 100 million or less and then busy themselves with increasing birthrates. Sure their economy will get worse but hey that's better than there not being a livable Japan in a couple hundred years right?
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2012-12-19, 02:25 | Link #2657 | |
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I hope you're joking. Indonesia are doing just fine with over 230 mlllion for a country made of several islands, a country that has gone through political turmoil and rapid changes of their own. OK, Indonesia is not Japan in terms of economical power right now, but still. On the other hand, South Korea are currently holding 50 million people in a surface area less than a third of the entire land surface area of Japan. I don't see them complaining of overpopulation as a hindering factor to the economy. I don't see what it has to do with Japan here. Last edited by KiraYamatoFan; 2012-12-19 at 03:07. |
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2012-12-19, 02:49 | Link #2658 |
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Isn't most of Japan mountains, forcing 130 million people into super-dense cities? And yeah actually Korea and Indonesia are rather overpopulated too. It's not just a Japanese thing. Sure, with 130 million Japan is still livable. If the population keeps growing like people seem to want it to, how would life be like with 150 million? 200? 400? When and how to stop? Japan seems quite overcrowded as it is, 100 million is probably already pushing things. They have to import a lot of their food from other countries; what happens when those places become overpopulated themselves (imagine America with 1-2 billion people; yes it could support that many but then it wouldn't be able to export as much)?
For now, a bigger population means more productivity and that to me seems to be why people are concerned about low birthrates and an aging populace. Of course a nation's economy becomes less powerful as its manpower decreases, since it can't produce as much. But when those masses of people are driven to live in slums and in danger of starvation (due to a physical lack of space and food), the more there are, the more the nation is screwed. Basically, it's tough on Japan now that they are aging as a people, but that is ultimately more sustainable in the long run. |
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