2008-05-05, 22:51 | Link #61 |
Ooooo what?!
Join Date: Jul 2007
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What constitutes a friendship for me, with either a male or a female is made up of many factors, and sexual attraction doesn't appear on that list at all in any degree.
I do get the impulse, but I am quite comfortable in recongising that and removing it from places it is not needed. I do not require sexual attraction for anyone other than my significant other. Other types of attraction however are most desirable and should be embraced, whoever invokes the feeling. I thusly voted yes, and I am male.
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2008-05-05, 23:04 | Link #62 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: San Diego
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Personally, I have become friends with several girls because I thought they were attractive, but not all of my female friends are ones I made in this manner. I'm sure you're aware, but the Ladder theory is as much of a theory as Voodoo science is a science. Actually, take one "No" off and put it on "Yes", since it was a troll-poll by me to try to spark some mildly intelligent conversation by getting the number of "Yes" and "No" votes equal. |
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2008-05-05, 23:15 | Link #63 | |
Bittersweet Distractor
Join Date: Nov 2007
Age: 32
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I don't care if you are male or female, I don't buy this idea that females are so good and don't think about sex all the times like males. I got news for you, females only got one ladder too, they probably just got a larger bottom than their top compared to men. I could guess why, but I just find that men are more accepting than women. This is actually proven with statistics of men who would welcome a female approaching him compared to a male approaching a female. Anyway, the ladder theory seems to be the consequence of MANY MANY many years of male chauvinism domineering over women and getting backlashed by feminists. Please don't just accept the idea that all males are sex fiends, it's quite demeaning and insulting actually. Dang anarchist.
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2008-05-05, 23:25 | Link #64 | ||
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Location: Korea
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2008-05-05, 23:47 | Link #65 | |
Buddhajew
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: San Diego
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However, the whole ladder thing is quite stupid in itself, since it essentially argues that men can't even make friends with women in the first place, since they only see them as objects with which they can have impure heterosexual relationships, and bisexuals and homosexuals don't exist anyway. I would make the Sex Pistols proud. |
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2008-05-06, 00:45 | Link #66 |
Endless Entity
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Inner Universe
Age: 31
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Well.. both times the girls asked me out instead after being friends with me for a while... not like just common friends, but sorta close I guess..
And I said no both times even though both of them are pretty. One of them is truly beautiful.. I wonder why I said no. Now they both ignore me ._. |
2008-05-06, 00:51 | Link #67 | |
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2008-05-06, 01:17 | Link #69 | |
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(By the way, I mean your general idea was bringing the whole point down to your personal appreciation of people and making a generalization out of that. At least that's what I understood from your posts) Good day to you too
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2008-05-06, 01:36 | Link #70 | |
Silent Warrior
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Netherlands
Age: 38
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For one my personality makes me go for good looking girls with personality. If I can't get her I'd go on the friend boat. Since hot girls have hot friends. I never go out of the friend boat. Since it isn't really needed to make your friend a gf rather find some other girl you don't completely know keeps the relationship fun. And I have hope that I can find new girls since 50% of humanity consist of girls. :P I just don't get hungover a certain girl. I am attracted to a lot of girls, but never really had a crush or been in love. No need for sex keeps me in check for not beeing one of those that look for gf at clubs or w/e. I have high standards. I think everyone should, unless they are 30+. :O |
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2008-05-06, 01:49 | Link #71 | |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 66
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For example, his assertion of "If you are friends with a girl that you are attracted to, you do not want to be friends with her." is just inexperienced juvenile bullpuckies. Making comrades out of women I'm sexually attracted to has been a wonderful defensive measure for staying monogamous. Kyuusai is probably regretting even mentioning the "ladder" misogyny at this point (since he himself doesn't even subscribe to it).
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2008-05-06, 02:05 | Link #73 |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
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This is true... but one can take elements of truth and do the most absurd things with them. Some of the most successful scams or deceptions always use elements of truth. Men *can* be simple when it comes to relationships -- it doesn't necessarily mean they automatically are.
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2008-05-06, 02:21 | Link #74 | |
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2008-05-06, 05:31 | Link #75 |
Looking for ONE PIECE
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sleeping Forest
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men and woman who are friends at one point or another will always have some sort of feeling for the other person. it all depends on if that person acts on that or not. some choose not to but, most likely the men that we are and the amount of testosterone that is running through us it will lead to some sort of confession or a drunken night.
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2008-05-06, 09:42 | Link #77 | |
Horoist
Join Date: Oct 2007
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It may help that I don't drink or associate with people who drink, so drunken confessions are out of the question. I dunno, that lifestyle is alien to me so I can't say whether it's a contributing factor. |
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2008-05-06, 12:12 | Link #78 |
Looking for ONE PIECE
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sleeping Forest
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i am saying it as a genralaty. not as one or some cases. yes we all have friends of the opposite gender and yes some we just think of as friends and some we think of as crushes or like in ways more than a friend.
but, even though all of us may have been friends for a long time but, there will be some point in time where you think of the other person a bit differently even if it may be for a fraction of a second. subconchusy or unsubconchusy. opposite genders can be friends but, there will be a point where you may see that person a bit differently. the drunken confesion i was kind of using it as a metphor for letting it out, insted of brushing it aside and going on with your life. when you may be drunk your inhabitions are low as well as loss of some self control.
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2008-05-06, 17:53 | Link #79 | |
神聖カルル帝国の 皇帝
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Yes, I might have felt that way for a few of my friends, but to say that I'll feel as such for all of them is just...... |
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2008-05-06, 19:57 | Link #80 |
Looking for ONE PIECE
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sleeping Forest
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i don't claime it to be for all of the friends, for the select few that just happens.
i have great friends and some of them the reason i know them is because of that fraction of a second. we are friends and nothing more but, if it had not been for that i would not know them.
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