2012-09-03, 00:59 | Link #961 |
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"It's not like Yasu ever GETS DOWN with anyone. No one's putting "yaoi" in your head but you. :P "
You have a point there. But it wanst me who started this, It was the captain!! He said Yaoi First not me!!! XDDDDDDDD
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But anyway, it's not just the rape part Genji was afraid of. It's also the way Kinzo was treating Kuwadorian Beato. Quote:
No, seriously, it's my fault. I made a very insensitive comment that doesn't even reflect how I feel about this subject. I was just trying to joke around, obviously didn't see where this was going..... Lion/Yasu's character is a lovely one by its nature, so I have absolutely no problem accepting it either way. Plus, Umineko is about that person's heart, not the space between their legs. (Also, if you're that bothered by yaoi/yuri, you should be shifting your attention to Bern and Lambda. XD) Quote:
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2012-09-03, 04:34 | Link #965 |
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What the, how did I double post.. >< O.o .... good thing the edit button exists. Anyway I'm sorry I got this topic offtopic. I hope you guys dont think Im a horrible person because I dont like Yaoi. XD Forgive me all
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2012-09-03, 10:11 | Link #966 | |
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I prefer yasu being female because it makes more sense for jessica's character to be a rebel to the point of being lesbian. back to manga I wodner if we will get a manga with the "yasu leaves the island to search for battler arc", I also want some action out of the island beause I hope to see the stakes going on their daily lives. |
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We aren't told when EXACTLY Genji started becoming afraid but we're told why. He feared that now that Beato 2 was dead Kinzo would do the same he did when Beato 1 died; think that the child was Beato reincarnated. So it's very possible Genji began worrying for the child as soon as his/her mother died but... what could he do? He couldn't make the baby magically disappear. Kinzo would search for him/her and punish whoever was involved in what would be a kidnapping. Sure, maybe involving the police won't be easy but he could always make up a story officially and bribe them privately... or hire private detectives or someone else. It wouldn't be so easy to make the baby disappear and probably the whole situation was so sudden Genji didn't really have the time to think of a plan. Then the baby is entrusted to Natsuhi and 2/3 days after he/she fall from a cliff, the maid dies, the baby nearly dies and Genji rushes to carry him to Nanjo. It's a perfect chance to take the baby out of the island and let Kinzo believe the baby is dead. Maybe Genji even came back with ashes saying Nanjo provided to cremate the baby. Kinzo might doubt it (he knows Genji very well and Nanjo well) or might hope they had lied to him and the baby is alive somehow, but he's a man who's already nursing the pain of losing Beatrice 2 so he might have not realized the trick at first... and, after all, it was a VERY believable trick. It's much easier to believe the baby died than that it survived and only who've a guilty coscience (Natsuhi) or a strong wish for the baby to be alive (Kinzo) might favour the theory the baby survived. In short, we can't say the fall was the reason why Genji worried but the fall was the chance that allowed Genji to hide the baby from Kinzo. Quote:
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2012-09-03, 10:41 | Link #968 |
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Back on the subject of side stories, it was real easy for Higurashi to have all these extra arcs, but what exactly would a true side story for Umineko be? Will it be just another Forgery, like Umineko Purple? What more can be seen from the outside world than what we already see in Alliance and Dawn?
Although, I would like to see exactly what the police saw when they arrived Oct. 6th. But then again, that spoils a lot of EP6 and EP7.
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2012-09-03, 12:19 | Link #970 | |
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But I'd really like to see the detailed scenario Ryukishi says he's thought of about the back story of Bern and Lambda. I mean, we all link it to Higurashi, but just by hearing them talk about it makes me feel like we're missing some big part of the story so we can't really look at the whole picture. Other than that, my opinion about manga-arcs is one. Don't make them. There sort of is a sort of an answer for this one. Ryukishi has "explicitly" said in his interview that it's all about who you want to be the bad guy. For example, did Battler forget to write to her, or perhaps George didn't give the letter to her out of jealousy (which he totally did, that was my very first thought when reading that scene). To use Ryukishi's words: it depends for whom you have love.
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2012-09-03, 13:56 | Link #971 | ||
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Though I've to say I enjoyed some sidestories, so I don't have such a bad opinion on them. Quote:
Also I never suspected George because he opened the envelope right in front of Shannon and the others so it would be troublesome for him to hide one of the letters. He doesn't look as skilled as Shannon in tricks. Though I didn't suspect Battler either. My feeling was that the letter got removed before they were all placed in the envelope... but that's a discussion for the theories section. |
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2012-09-04, 09:23 | Link #972 | |
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For example, I would really enjoy a side arc about Kyries day to day life in 1980, about what pushed her to the point of being prepared to murder Asumu, and how she'd reacted to news of her death. We could see her at work with Rudolf in such an awkward situation, and also maybe a bit of how she interacted with the other Sumadera (even though she was disowned and all that), or even her thoughts of how she would raise a child were she ever so blessed. There's a lot of room. We could get ... a story about Battler's life with his grandparents during those six years. Or maybe a heretofore unmentioned best friend of Jessica or Battler (who seem to have led active social lives) who also sought out the truth about that day. I've also always wanted some bit of narrative about the siblings lives as siblings. For example, we're told Rosa was often bullied, and sometimes outright betrayed by her siblings, but we never see any of that. A cute, slightly unsettling side story about little Rosa ... let's say it's from Rosa's perspective, Eva and Krauss are using her to get Rudolf in trouble for an 'indiscretion', but Rudolf uses her to make a situation that gets her in trouble and thus the attention off of him. We'd even get a bit of stuff on Kinzo's ever unnamed wife, maybe. You might just say that nothing like that is entirely relevant to the main story Umineko wanted to tell, but ... there's a lot of room, i think. |
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2012-09-04, 12:59 | Link #973 | |
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Something about Ikuko prior meeting Tohya and how her life with Tohya was would be nice as well. Last edited by jjblue1; 2012-09-04 at 13:56. |
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2012-09-04, 13:57 | Link #975 | |
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Can I also add a story dealing in the relationship between Battler and Lion? I'm sort of curious as Lion implied they were close/good friend/compatible spirits/whatever. |
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2012-09-04, 17:58 | Link #977 | ||
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Then again he's not an undaraged schoolgirl that has the hips for a mini skirt, so I don't think the publishing comany will share this opinion....
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2012-09-04, 22:34 | Link #978 | |
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...Also, why the hell is Kumasawa treated as a Beatrice in the fantasy narrative? That should've been MAJORLY important.
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2012-09-05, 01:41 | Link #979 |
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I agree with Aura, At first I thought she was Bice Castiglioni, BUt that would be ilogical and won't make any sense. Kumasawa as well as Genji were Always there for Kinzo and for the family and This two Didn't get any backstory at all, We don't know who they are.
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