2008-10-12, 05:33
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Okay let me put this in a context everyone will understand. Hitsugaya is WEAK and he is fighting one of the top 3!!! ESPADA!. if he had trouble fighting a god damn arrancar then he is as good as dead, even if he comes up with anything now it would be pointless for him to win. if kubo brings something out of his arse and the little brat wins, i am going to give up in bleach.
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2008-10-12, 07:32
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2008-10-12, 09:52
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 Ichigo fought on par with Byakuya...something Hitsu can never do...  He was getting owned. If not for lifting of limiter he wouldn't have beat Shaw Long. His bankai isn't developed. Reason I do not see him as genius. Geniuses are ahead of their time.  Quote:
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 He keeps being pit against characters and PHAILS every time! how could a win against a #3-1 Fraccion be believable? Where did he get this awesome power from? I enjoyed Byakuya's fight because his win was the most believable. Even if they did that "I am more arrogant than you! No I am " thing for a few chapters. There is a difference between that was hard fight and you got your ass whipped. Again Hitsu is the latter... Quote:
On topic O_o... Didn't Barrigan break that chair? 
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2008-10-12, 10:15
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HI, BILLY MAYS HERE
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*kyon*
Whatever...I guess I'm one of the few unbiased people that'll give lil' Toshiro the benefit of the doubt...  In either case, we don't know what kind of powers or fighting techniques either of the last 3 Espada have on hand, so it could really go either way for anyone...And now that I think about it, the same could probably be said of Kyoraku and Ukitake since we've never really seen what they fight like and what their zanpaktou's powers are...
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2008-10-12, 10:29
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I still think it's too early to be so sure about anyone in particular winning, at this point. We don't even know what Halibel or Stark can do since we've never actually seen them fight. We're only guessing that the Stark/Shunsui match is good and the Halibel/Hitsugaya match is bad based on their personalities and perceived amount of experience. And even then, how much of Halibel have we seen to know whether her personality is similar to Hitsugaya's? Halibel's only had like, five lines or something.
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2008-10-12, 12:29
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People hate good theories
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Imma say this just because your a genius does not mean that you were able to tap into 100% of your powers. It just means you were able to attain powers that normally takes someone years to attain.
Toshiro had a shikai before he entered the academy which is why he is considered a genius. Don't believe me read the flashback chapter on him. |
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2008-10-12, 12:58
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Also, I like the battle setups. Shunsui vs Stark: Very good match up, two players are alike but Shunsui will win. Halibel vs Hitsuguya: Hitsuguya should display something new here. Soi-Fong vs a Fraccion?: Soi-fong should vaporize whoever is in front of her. I am ready to see her Bankai!! Ukitake isn't fighting anyone. I am guessing he might fight Barragan once these people are finished and Yama will fight Aizen or this whole scenario could get messed up with the Vaizards coming in. I see no reason for the Vaizards helping Aizen out. Yes they are in debt to Aizen but the only thing they owe Aizen is an ass whooping, ROYALLY. The Vaizards will fight against Aizen and company but they will not do it for Soul Society. Anything can happen people, the real battle has come! |
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2008-10-12, 16:16
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If Vizards begin and end with SS's extended Comrades the whole Pendulum arc would be useless/pointless. It would be like a teaser for nothing . Pretty much on the lines of Kishi giving a Junchuriki color spread now .
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2008-10-12, 17:15
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2008-10-12, 19:35
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Kubotite thus far has shown he is unable to show characters beyond one fight without inconsistencies exploding in your face.
The discussion of Hitsugaya Toshiro does not need to extend any further than that. Say all you want about him but don't forget that Byakuya and Kenpachi has shown huge inconsistencies with their power in light of their recent Espada fights. How can Ichigo match Kenpachi in power back without bankai but Kenpachi can so easily overpower (through sheer force alone, no tricks) a 5th espada. Ichigo with Vizard power clearly shown that he was about just a bit stronger than 6th espada, Grimjaww. I don't buy how Kenpachi can be stronger than Vizard Ichigo in that short period of time. It is a huge disappointment seeing as Bleach used to be a favorite manga/anime but has degraded to this level this far into the manga.
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2008-10-12, 20:12
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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After that it was impossible to keep it running well without breaking the standard shounen format, Ichigo was just too competent, you felt like he was only one good power up from smacking Aizen like he smacked Renji. Our only hope is for Kubo to reboot Bleach as a high school romance, with the captains as teachers and 11th squad as some kind of biker gang. |
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2008-10-12, 20:35
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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True, she's a VC, so she's not going to be pawning any espada anytime soon. But as far as VCs go, she's been very successful. I can't recall her ever being taken out... |
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2008-10-12, 23:49
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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For now, no one's helping anyone. They're fighting for themselves. the SS Captains are fighting to protect SS, Vizards are fighting for themselves, Ichigo and co. are fighting for Inoue Everbody's doing their thing. the one thing that they do common: They all fight against Aizen. for now, Aizen and co. are the priority targets. Save the others later. Last edited by jelome1989; 2008-10-13 at 04:29. |
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2008-10-13, 04:50
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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He's called a prodigy but doesn't fight like one... Anyone think Barrigan is # 1? |
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