To Aru Majutsu no Index Light Novel Discussion (Archives)

[Suzuku]

Light novel sales for this week:

This week sales/Total sales

*1, 44,465 *,149,408 Toaru Majutsu no Index vol.22
*2, 29,657 *,*67,286 Kino no Tabi: the Beautiful World vol.14
*3, 26,848 1,045,667 Moshidora
*4, 17,514 *,*17,514 Shinkyoku Soukai Polyphonica Crimson vol.9
*5, 12,414 *,*47,022 Accel World vol.6
*6, 12,023 *,*90,224 Shinrei Tantei Yakumo vol.6 Part 2
*7, 11,819 *,*91,911 Shinrei Tantei Yakumo vol.6 Part 1
*8, 10,596 *,183,578 Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii Wake ga Nai vol.1
*9, *8,814 *,157,151 Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii Wake ga Nai vol.2
10, *8,684 *,*29,038 Ro Kyu Bu! vol.6

I also see that Oreimo anime has boosted its vol 1 and 2 sales.

[yuiichi9]

I think accelerator rehabilitation would be faster if he take a bath with his 2 female guardians . I wonder if some day he will have a steady girlfriend. It would be funny if in the final fight between touma and aleister, touma awakens and the entity inside of him happen to be lucifer then lucifer said to aleister just as planned another minion for my army . After shiage finish all the things he is going to do. If mugino could be cure and fall in love with him then maybe she would treat him like a tsundere or tease him either way he is going to have a rough future ahead of him . I think the queen could change the personality of aleister but that won't happen because that would be the end of the novel. I think the author should create a faction where only females are the members and males aren't allow to join. I know there is ITEM but with all the things they had going through some people think there are no longer a team.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by I_am_Kami

anyone know what novel index accidentally kissed touma?

Volume 9 when she was changing into her cheerleading outfit. By vol 10 she was suffering from the 'after-effects'

[I_am_Kami]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Volume 9 when she was changing into her cheerleading outfit. By vol 10 she was suffering from the 'after-effects'

lol. I didnt read that part since he doesnt give a big reaction to it

i hope i see it in this season

Also, Got a question. Whats the relationship between Misaka Worst and accelerator. Like how does she treat him?

[TheGiraffeStar]

Originally Posted by I_am_Kami

Also, Got a question. Whats the relationship between Misaka Worst and accelerator. Like how does she treat him?

I think they are like friendly enemies after he goes rampage on her in Vol.21. After that she sticks with him the next volume when accelerator suggests a way to disconnect her to the MISAKA network using the remnants of Mayday Of Darkness project I think? (The project Saiai was into)

Sorry for the bad english D:

[ellifeedn]

Could someone explain to me how the rankings and levels of espers in Academy City are determined? I read an explanation in a previous post, but it wasn't very clear.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by ellifeedn

Could someone explain to me how the rankings and levels of espers in Academy City are determined? I read an explanation in a previous post, but it wasn't very clear.

By how useful they are to Aleister's plans.....all predetermined from the start...

[Flere821]

Originally Posted by outerelf

I don't think it's magical as in the ability of magic, but magical as in a 'wonderful character' like the magic words at the dinner table are please and thank you. I don't know- that's just the vibe I'm getting from the Author, because Touma is a really rare character

Yes, that's what I meant to say - but I couldn't find a better word than 'Magical' ^^;

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Spoiler:

Page 252-258

The speed of descent increased.

In the middle of that fortress, Kamijyo Touma was running with all his might.

The Arctic coast, the sea's surface and the valleys of the land...

Having forcibly destroyed the reisou (don't know actual English term...it's used to describe magic artifacts in the Index verse) that controls the vast ascent and bending the falling trajectory of the fortress, Kamijyo kept running with pure determination for the sake of confronting the Archangel.

Something strange occurred on the ground.

The small shadow of something was approaching at high speed.

The white snow was being gouged out in vast quantities along the course of something rushing at low altitude and forwards at a terrible velocity.

Simply ignoring it was not an option.

“She” drew all the snow in a hundred meter…no, kilometer range into a central point.

Across the white land, a vast, long line heading towards the Archangel was etched.

There was nothing that could stop it.

In the middle, the Archangel was a figure blazing with seemingly magical light such that it was impossible to look at it.

Magicians were mown down in its wake.

From the coastline, the Archangel arrived at the Arctic Ocean.

At the same time….

From directly above, the Star of Bethlehem crashed down

Zuzun!!!

With a thunderous roar, both the Archangel and the colossal fortress smashed into the ocean.

In the heart of the sinking fortress, Kamijyo raced further down, down with all his might.

Unable to withstand the enormous pressure, the fortress’s interior walls and pillars crumbled in succession.

Freezing seawater rushed in but Kamijyo did not stop.

Downwards with single-minded determination.

Down towards the bottom, falling below sea level.

Already, there was no illumination.

In the heart of the spreading darkness, was a single pinprick of light.

Of the deepest blue, the peaceful light resembled an image of the moon.

Kamijyo Touma clenched his right fist with every ounce of his strength. The Archangel noticed him. In the darkness, their hostility clashed. An overwhelming, murderous intent bubbled over between them.

At the end, that simple boy who was only human never stopped charging forward.

He recalled the events that led up to this.

It started from when he lost his memory. For the sake of preventing a certain girl from grieving, he had lied. The battle with an Alchemist for the sake of helping a girl, who possessed a unique blood, the battle with the strongest demon for the sake of helping the third ranked Level 5 and her Sisters. The life or death struggle at a seaside house with a classmate’s traitor, the events of August 31, the confrontation with a Golem for the sake of helping a friend made out of concentrated AIM fields, the fight with Christianity’s largest powers for the sake of helping the Sister who was proclaimed to be capable of deciphering the Liber Al vel Legis , the incident with the Tokiwadai girl’s junior, the Daihasei sports festival which became an incident involving the Croce di Pietro that threatened Academy City, the battle against a fleet of ice ships in the Italian city of Chioggia for the sake of helping a girl who was, at one time, his enemy, the clash with the woman from God’s Right Seat on September 30th for the sake of helping a friend who had been completely changed, the delicious fried food gathering with his class, the fight with Skill Out for the sake of helping that Tokiwadai girl’s mother, the battle in Avignon over the Constantine Document with God’s Right Seat, the battle alongside Academy’s underground Amakusa Catholics against a monstrously powerful Saint, stopping the Second Princess’s coup d’état in London…..

And finally leading up to now.

It’s been long, Kamijyo thinks.

The journey to this point has never been pleasant

How many times have others been hurt? How many times have he hurt others? It keeps repeating over and over.

However, Kamijyo Touma still continues to run.

Because he knows for a fact those actions helped plenty of people.

He charges directly towards the greatest enemy, the Archangel, without hesitation.

(Surely, this world will be reduced to ruins in time. Its life span is certain. Before that, I understand how the star will expand and swallow this planet. Before that storm, the chances of living creatures on the earth’s surface ceasing to exist are high.) Kamijyo thinks as he clenches his fist and thrusts it forth.

What is this, this so called tragic end wasn’t that…….rather, it was good.

For the sake of stopping the threat to the world, it was a good fight.

Don!!!!!!

The two figures clashed at the shortest distance.

At the same time, the impact of the fall struck with maximum force, pulling them both down into the abyss with the main body of the Star of Bethlehem.

There.....spent a considerable amount of time from my leave translating that......srsly, translation is far far harder than just reading...

Thank god for leave periods....

I'll go through that later maybe when I get to it - I'm currently working on Ch12 as well on Baka-Tsuki.

And Part 3 of Ch12 has just been done by me, go ahead and check it out:
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...pter_12#Part_3

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Flere821

Yes, that's what I meant to say - but I couldn't find a better word than 'Magical' ^^;

I'll go through that later maybe when I get to it - I'm currently working on Ch12 as well on Baka-Tsuki.

And Part 3 of Ch12 has just been done by me, go ahead and check it out:
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...pter_12#Part_3

Ah thanks for that

[Chaos2Frozen]

Lol, I know this is abit random but I think I might have found out by accident what was that 40km flaming sword that Fiamma had summoned.

God seeking to deter Adam and Eve from returning to the Garden of Eden, "placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubim and a flaming sword which turned every way." By some accounts, the Cherubim are replaced with the Archangel Michael, who wields a similar weapon.

[Flere821]

*loud sigh* Alright, I pushed myself into completing Part 7 of Vol22 Ch12 just then, after Cosmic Eagle went and did some of the work. I feel like taking a brea~k...
*collapses*

Here it is:
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...pter_12#Part_7

[tsunade666]

Wow talking about fast paced translation. I just slept and theirs tons of updates.

EDIT:

after reading it..... it's really good in translation and easily to be understood.

Thanks for the translation

and at the end

..........

welcoming death....

I wonder if Touma is the God reincarnated on Earth.

Though why the hostility?

The welcome of death just reminds me of the death of son of god.

[Aki-Furaba]

I'm kinda wishing that Index story gets a bit darker after this.

Touma's death should be a reason enough to get at least Index and Mikoto goes emo and everything.

Accelerator should get a terrible shock too from hearing that his eternal rival has died.


When's Volume 23 release???

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Lol, I know this is abit random but I think I might have found out by accident what was that 40km flaming sword that Fiamma had summoned.

God seeking to deter Adam and Eve from returning to the Garden of Eden, "placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubim and a flaming sword which turned every way." By some accounts, the Cherubim are replaced with the Archangel Michael, who wields a similar weapon.

So it really is that sword....

Actually...he really loves swords...much of his battle with Touma has that Third Arm wielding a sword of some kind...

[MeisterBabylon]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Spoiler:

Page 252-258

The speed of descent increased.

In the middle of that fortress, Kamijyo Touma was running with all his might.

The Arctic coast, the sea's surface and the valleys of the land...

Having forcibly destroyed the reisou (don't know actual English term...it's used to describe magic artifacts in the Index verse) that controls the vast ascent and bending the falling trajectory of the fortress, Kamijyo kept running with pure determination for the sake of confronting the Archangel.

Something strange occurred on the ground.

The small shadow of something was approaching at high speed.

The white snow was being gouged out in vast quantities along the course of something rushing at low altitude and forwards at a terrible velocity.

Simply ignoring it was not an option.

“She” drew all the snow in a hundred meter…no, kilometer range into a central point.

Across the white land, a vast, long line heading towards the Archangel was etched.

There was nothing that could stop it.

In the middle, the Archangel was a figure blazing with seemingly magical light such that it was impossible to look at it.

Magicians were mown down in its wake.

From the coastline, the Archangel arrived at the Arctic Ocean.

At the same time….

From directly above, the Star of Bethlehem crashed down

Zuzun!!!

With a thunderous roar, both the Archangel and the colossal fortress smashed into the ocean.

In the heart of the sinking fortress, Kamijyo raced further down, down with all his might.

Unable to withstand the enormous pressure, the fortress’s interior walls and pillars crumbled in succession.

Freezing seawater rushed in but Kamijyo did not stop.

Downwards with single-minded determination.

Down towards the bottom, falling below sea level.

Already, there was no illumination.

In the heart of the spreading darkness, was a single pinprick of light.

Of the deepest blue, the peaceful light resembled an image of the moon.

Kamijyo Touma clenched his right fist with every ounce of his strength. The Archangel noticed him. In the darkness, their hostility clashed. An overwhelming, murderous intent bubbled over between them.

At the end, that simple boy who was only human never stopped charging forward.

He recalled the events that led up to this.

It started from when he lost his memory. For the sake of preventing a certain girl from grieving, he had lied. The battle with an Alchemist for the sake of helping a girl, who possessed a unique blood, the battle with the strongest demon for the sake of helping the third ranked Level 5 and her Sisters. The life or death struggle at a seaside house with a classmate’s traitor, the events of August 31, the confrontation with a Golem for the sake of helping a friend made out of concentrated AIM fields, the fight with Christianity’s largest powers for the sake of helping the Sister who was proclaimed to be capable of deciphering the Liber Al vel Legis , the incident with the Tokiwadai girl’s junior, the Daihasei sports festival which became an incident involving the Croce di Pietro that threatened Academy City, the battle against a fleet of ice ships in the Italian city of Chioggia for the sake of helping a girl who was, at one time, his enemy, the clash with the woman from God’s Right Seat on September 30th for the sake of helping a friend who had been completely changed, the delicious fried food gathering with his class, the fight with Skill Out for the sake of helping that Tokiwadai girl’s mother, the battle in Avignon over the Constantine Document with God’s Right Seat, the battle alongside Academy’s underground Amakusa Catholics against a monstrously powerful Saint, stopping the Second Princess’s coup d’état in London…..

And finally leading up to now.

It’s been long, Kamijyo thinks.

The journey to this point has never been pleasant

How many times have others been hurt? How many times have he hurt others? It keeps repeating over and over.

However, Kamijyo Touma still continues to run.

Because he knows for a fact those actions helped plenty of people.

He charges directly towards the greatest enemy, the Archangel, without hesitation.

(Surely, this world will be reduced to ruins in time. Its life span is certain. Before that, I understand how the star will expand and swallow this planet. Before that storm, the chances of living creatures on the earth’s surface ceasing to exist are high.) Kamijyo thinks as he clenches his fist and thrusts it forth.

What is this, this so called tragic end wasn’t that…….rather, it was good.

For the sake of stopping the threat to the world, it was a good fight.

Don!!!!!!

The two figures clashed at the shortest distance.

At the same time, the impact of the fall struck with maximum force, pulling them both down into the abyss with the main body of the Star of Bethlehem.

There.....spent a considerable amount of time from my leave translating that......srsly, translation is far far harder than just reading...

Thank god for leave periods....

This makes me think that when its animated someone voiced by May'n will stand up and do a cover of Diamond CREVASSE (Michael Blanc version) as Touma charges towards his destiny.

The epicness cannot be understated.

[tsunade666]

diamon crevasse? Macross frontier?

I wish their would be a great back ground song accompanying the epicness of the scene.

[zeniselv]

well i suppose that if touma keeps his mind intact after stopping the second impact, that would trigger some change in him, he migth now coe back as a villain(maybe he was all along )

also after mikoto found about the sisters project, she wen very crazy destroying all the research facilities, this migth trigger her to go rougue on AC.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by zeniselv

well i suppose that if touma keeps his mind intact after stopping the second impact, that would trigger some change in him, he migth now coe back as a villain(maybe he was all along )

also after mikoto found about the sisters project, she went very crazy destroying all the research facilities, this migth trigger her to go rougue on AC.

She has not enough reasons to go against A.C. her friends are there, if Academy City collapses her friends will have no other place to go. She can't blame them that easy, Touma leave the chance to scape because there was things to do before.
Its true that they planned to retrieve Touma by force but, didn't she tried to do the same?

Reading the translations on the part which says with Gabriel destroyed "she" returned to the rightful place so, I think Touma was send to the heaven by accident, yeah... by accident (Touma of the Back?). There was a tsunami as consequence of the falling star but there wasn't any sign of telesma explosion.


Touma, villain? No, but there is the chance of the "invisible thing" saving Touma but also taking control over him because he was too exhausted to put any resistence.

Kamijou Touma.

Once again, he has welcomed ‘Death’.

It says "once again", just after reminding the times he faced death fighting against his enemies. It isn't a second death or a third, just once again. This leaves more chance of survival .

[outerelf]

I got a quesiton:

Is there a reason why Flare821 and Cosmic Eagles translations are so different? Flare821 translation is basically the same, but there seems to be a lot added on. Is it because Flare821 was translating from the chinese instead of the Jap?

[tsunade666]

I'm not sure if it's from the chinese or japanese but I think because the way you translate it differs from one another.... or the style? basically the same but how to put it..... nah I no good at explaining it.

Cosmic translate only the part where touma collided with the angel while flare translate the whole part.

Though I remember that their is still a bit onto that part.

After the welcome the death.

The result of the search party and the awakening of index.