(CR) Planet With

[wuhugm]

Rose Tico

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by zeando

That would be a great pick to get animated, or maybe it would be best to have an other work being animated first, since spirit circle is so good anything coming after would hardly stand the comparison.

Stalker is dead and V.1 isn't out yet so no hard numbers, but the early Stalker wasn't looking great. I'll be stunned if it sells more than 1500 per volume.

It's true, almost anything - by any writer - would pale next to a good Spirit Circle adaptation. But that's the one I want, nevertheless - Planet With was great, but Spirit Circle is the true exemplar of how brilliant Mizukami can be at his very best. It's a crime against decency that it's never gotten an adaptation.

[serenade_beta]

Spoiler for final thoughts:

10/10

Excellent.
I am actually very impressed at the writing of this show.

Why? Because think about it this way. There are so many anime out there that try to cram so much in, that it feels rushed and is hard to understand.
But this anime? It crams so much in, but the audience is able to keep up with it. Apparently this is really hard to do because a lot of anime fail at it. Heck, there are anime that has twice the length of this anime, does not do as much, and still fails and just throws everything away with the heroine turning into a giant robot and whatever crap.

Also, it is quite hard to predict. Yet everything that happens has a reason and is understandable.
To think that the old man dying from a "joke" moment even leads to the very emotional scene of the Dragon meeting up with his dad as he dies. Man, that was just a sucker punch that I teared up.
And of course, the entire Paladin crew too. Torai, for instance. Man.

And although the OP is great too, the ED is probably one of the best this season if not the best. The song, of course, but the animation too, where it shows the outer side and inner side of each character.

And finally, the other thing that stands out is the sound. And I rarely talk about sound in anime.
But it it so strong in this anime. Everything could be playing out normally, but BANG, the robot hits something and the sound just resonates across the screen.
But because of that, I can't turn the volume up too high because these SE are even louder.

Anyways, a great watch. I usually don't prefer watching robot anime and really only started watching this because my friend suggested it (and the author), but boy was it worth the time.

[Mr. DJ]

I was hesitant because of the super robot designs for this series, I can be superficial like that sometimes...but overall, for a 12 ep series? This was pretty good and wrapped up nicely.

[Dengar]

Here's what I think.

While with each episode leading up to the final battle, the plot had this tendency to change up what it's doing, it never actually drops the whole format of "one opponent per episode" until really late in the game. Soya ended up fighting every single member of PALADIN in one way or another. Except the chuuni, I forget his name. And the tall woman, I forget her name too, who was defeated by Torai instead. It's just that over the course of the series, the stakes kept changing as well as everyone's reason for fighting in the first place.

Still, it still adhered to some kind of "opponent of the week" format, which made the whole thing easier to follow.

[moridin84]

One amazing thing about this anime is that it managed to have a "super-powered Deux ex Machina" alien race without it being stupid.

[RDNexus]

Excuse me... Could you explain?

[Haak]

^ Spoiler from a recent mecha series

Spoiler for spoiler:

He's probably talking about Darling in the Franxx which had the alien reveal close to end. I think there was pretty much a general consensus on the forum that this twist came in far too last minute and undermined a few themes of the show. Kinda funny coincidence that Planet With came along literally next season and showed how to actually do an alien control plotline. Though I have to admit when it comes to the characters and the directing, I actually preferred Franxx over Planet With.

[wuhugm]

^Clearly a comparison between Paradise People and Deus Ex characters from other series

Btw, universe is expanding, so why are the dimensional holes stay in the same place?
It shouldn't be affected by gravity

[moridin84]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^Clearly a comparison between Paradise People and Deus Ex characters from other series

Q from Start Trek would be example.

It's pretty common in sci-fi shows though.

Btw, universe is expanding, so why are the dimensional holes stay in the same place?
It shouldn't be affected by gravity

The blowing up of the MCs planet happened about 5 years ago right? The expansion of the universe hardly has much affect within a time frame of 5 years.

Plus, it probably wasn't in that EXACT same place. They knew the area and could find it with sensors or something.

[Dengar]

Maybe dimensional holes in this universe actually are affected by gravity? Don't think about it too much.

[wuhugm]

^Maybe. But Mizukami usually try to do his pseudo-science right

Like how telekinetic field works in Biscuit Hammer
and the chronological order and spirit calculation in Spirit Circle

Originally Posted by moridin84

The blowing up of the MCs planet happened about 5 years ago right? The expansion of the universe hardly has much affect within a time frame of 5 years.

Plus, it probably wasn't in that EXACT same place. They knew the area and could find it with sensors or something.

It's roughly 67 km/second brah

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

Btw, universe is expanding, so why are the dimensional holes stay in the same place?
It shouldn't be affected by gravity

I am a scientist and can guarantee 100% that the reason why the portal stayed in place was that it was actually located at the L2 Lagrange point of the Earth-Moon system, and totally not just because of plot.

[wuhugm]

^Eeeee... That still means the hole is affected by the gravity of solar system

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^Eeeee... That still means the hole is affected by the gravity of solar system

Well, not that weird. If it's a distortion in spacetime of some sort, it's gotta interact gravitationally with everything else.

[SeaDoor]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

...It's roughly 67 km/second brah

All right... who are you and what happened to The Tiger?

[wuhugm]

^Scientific Tiger here

Originally Posted by Gan_HOPE326

Well, not that weird. If it's a distortion in spacetime of some sort, it's gotta interact gravitationally with everything else.

Nuh uh
It might move according to the spacetime expansion, but not aligned with this galaxy cluster
So after sometime it will be in faraway place
Surely it's not behaving like a freaking satellite!

[BWTraveller]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^Scientific Tiger here



Nuh uh
It might move according to the spacetime expansion, but not aligned with this galaxy cluster
So after sometime it will be in faraway place
Surely it's not behaving like a freaking satellite!

To my knowledge there are different theories concerning such things. After all, if it's a twist in spacetime then in a sense it's directly connected to gravity. In any case we're dealing with something that has never been demonstrated to even exist, with a nature that therefore can't be purely defined. Kind of hard to declare "no, this cannot work this way". Besides, it looks as if its behavior is somewhat similar to the warp gate, which is clearly bound to Sirius. If holes in spacetime were bound by the expanding universe rather than gravity, they would immediately race away from whatever they were close to, or more specifically the motion of the planet, star system, galaxy, cluster, etc. would quickly rip the planet away from the hole, thus making gates an impossible technology.

[wuhugm]

Originally Posted by BWTraveller

To my knowledge there are different theories concerning such things. After all, if it's a twist in spacetime then in a sense it's directly connected to gravity. In any case we're dealing with something that has never been demonstrated to even exist, with a nature that therefore can't be purely defined. Kind of hard to declare "no, this cannot work this way". Besides, it looks as if its behavior is somewhat similar to the warp gate, which is clearly bound to Sirius. If holes in spacetime were bound by the expanding universe rather than gravity, they would immediately race away from whatever they were close to, or more specifically the motion of the planet, star system, galaxy, cluster, etc. would quickly rip the planet away from the hole, thus making gates an impossible technology.

The thing is, they are not "gates"

The one in Sirius, Paradise Dude said was a rip in space, caused by the event during the destruction of Sirius, and not a legitimate warp gate itself

Warp Gates in other stories are actual physical object, like giant ring (thus can stay in orbit and such) with capability of opening portal/path to subspace

[BWTraveller]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

The thing is, they are not "gates"

The one in Sirius, Paradise Dude said was a rip in space, caused by the event during the destruction of Sirius, and not a legitimate warp gate itself

Warp Gates in other stories are actual physical object, like giant ring (thus can stay in orbit and such) with capability of opening portal/path to subspace

No, as I recall he said it was the gate previously used to invade Riel. And the way they exited said Sirius gate was through a ring-shaped opening, not a simple patchy tear like the previous one. And again, given how gravity is directly related to the shape of spacetime it's really not weird to suggest that a made-up concept of a hypothetical tear might interact with gravity.