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View Poll Results: Darker Than Black - Episode 12 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 29 | 14.22% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 42 | 20.59% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 37 | 18.14% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 38 | 18.63% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 11 | 5.39% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 11 | 5.39% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 4 | 1.96% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 8 | 3.92% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 24 | 11.76% | |
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2009-12-26, 23:12 | Link #201 |
Know who you are
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Hmmm not sure what to make of it all, good and bad maybe.
meh doesn't really matter to me, I enjoyed it anyway. I guess it does a good job wrapping up in its own way but maybe leaving just a few things too many unanswered. one thing tho, I guess I never payed much attention to it but Hazuki's power is to turn things into lightsabers?! and Mao again is great, he seems to get along with anyone and everyone oh and also Misaki was looking great at the end
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2009-12-26, 23:18 | Link #202 | |
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This is prob like the movie I saw this weekend. It was too little too late to prevent what was to happen. Suou is living in his neighborhood from season 1 and is using a telescope. Not too mention her open ended narrative about missing people and prob meeting them again. He prob hasn't lost her as her loss was Shion. But again, these things are open to interpretation.
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2009-12-26, 23:42 | Link #203 |
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Some interesting topic floating on here about Kagutshuci, My question is :
In what such of method the Kagutsuchi born ? Its there simply because the Izanagi and Izanagi meets, or is there more "logical" cause like the "Boy Yin" is copy of Yin created by Shion with his power and after that the entity whose can be called "Kagutsuchi" born. If its true why Shion want to do that ? perhaps he still want to destroy the "real" world in order completed the grand plan of his. |
2009-12-26, 23:58 | Link #204 | ||
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And Yin's body has always been limp, since it's empty inside. It doesn't necessarily mean Yin is 'dead' entirely. Her soul might be inside Kagutsuchi, or still at the Gate, or back inside her body, we don't know. Even if she turns out to be alive in S3, it's very likely she's still in coma anyway. If killing Yin's physical body was sufficient to kill Izanami, Section 3 would've done so long ago. And whatever Hei did to Yin, kill or whatever, he did it to her physical body, not the spectre or ghost white Yin. I'm not denouncing your interpretation that Hei got himself a triple BAD ENDING, I'm just saying there's room to interpret it as Hei didn't kill Yin. Quote:
So unless Gates manifest in Earth 2.0 as well or Suou gets some sort of hax power to teleport her back to Earth 1.0, she's kind of out of reach from Hei. Unless she'll make do with a copy of 'Li Sheng Shun' somewhere in Earth 2.0
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2009-12-27, 00:11 | Link #206 | ||
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Yet no one listens. Which is a shame, since it's clear as day.
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2009-12-27, 00:17 | Link #207 |
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The first few pages of people complaining about the ending are understandable. The RAW version wasn't even out on the Internet yet, and most of us watched it live. It's not hard to deduce what happened after watching it RAW, or better yet, subbed.
And if you read further ahead in this thread, a lot of people explained what happened in this episode multiple times.
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2009-12-27, 00:25 | Link #208 | ||
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Section 3 (Golgo) also explained their actions. They sealed her instead of killing her because she voluntarily stopped her transformation. Then that shot from Suou's AT rifle that missed awakened her and then she didn't go back to sleep. Quote:
And since Suou and the others were transported from old to new Earth, it's not impregnable anymore.
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2009-12-27, 00:33 | Link #209 | ||
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Kagutsuchi is the entity that was foretold from the Mitaka documents and not a copy of Yin. Shion made a deal with Izanami to get Suou on the new Earth. He did not do any copying as Izanagi impregnates Izanami to give birth to Katgutsuchi. There was no way to stop what was going to happen to old Earth since Yin did not die before awakening. Shion created a new Earth to preserve mankind since it's going to end soon on old Earth. No wonder Shion looked so tired at the end.
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2009-12-27, 00:50 | Link #211 | |
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I'm not going against the fruition of myth, but to me it's an interpretation that makes more sense. The idea of Chekhov's gun doesn't really make sense if we solely interpreted the final episode on the basis of myth. (On that note, interpreting White Yin's ryougi as Hei and Black Yin (Yang)'s ryougi as Shion makes quite a lot of sense. It's very apt that White Yin's ryougi is Hei, or the color black.)
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2009-12-27, 01:00 | Link #212 | ||
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Dark Yin said it. Hei wasn't suprised at all to see White Yin. You need to rewatch the episode. (19:00-19:15) White Yin: Hei Hei: Yin Dark Yin: It's not too late. Dark Yin: Kill me. Quote:
Makes you wonder if any hentai is going to latch onto this.
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2009-12-27, 01:09 | Link #213 | |
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She can be asleep you know, that's why she's limp. I'll admit of him not being surprised, though. I stand corrected with that. Contrast that with Black Yin's collar. It's not Black Yin.
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2009-12-27, 02:24 | Link #214 |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Boo. The emotions were there, but the logic and reasoning weren't. That seems to be my impression of this mini-season of Darker than Black.
It'd be interesting if they put in some kind of a sequel to this if it's even possible, but damn... The sci-fi stuff is just off the walls and not in a good way.. |
2009-12-27, 02:27 | Link #215 |
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My HEART screams for season 3 !!!!
WTH with that half-assed ending?? They dont even explained everything clearly... Is this BONES strategy of making 3rd season of DtB?? EDIT: And my biggest dissapointment is they dont even show the battle between Genma and Hazuki... Cih... |
2009-12-27, 02:41 | Link #216 | |
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I rewatched this a few times, and it actually appears that Black Yin says "It's not too late." And THEN White Yin follows in with a close-up and says "Kill me." So yeah. Btw, did anyone else like that ominous, yet intriguing synth background song when Izanami and Izanagi officially meet? It starts playing right when Suou finds July after he speaks with the magician inside the gate. |
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2009-12-27, 03:01 | Link #217 |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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It looks like there will be more, this ending has a lot less closure than the first season ending.
It doesn't confuse me anymore though! The woman with the lazergun and twin dolls lives to see the end of their plan, and a new world is created with copying powers and ME. But the old world isn't destroyed, at least not yet. Are Hei and Yin alive and well? - up to interpretation, to be revealed later, most likely yes :P The new kid in the coffin is the prophetized "destroyer" Likely s3 plot: The "art of war" fella and the americans seek to control the destroyer to gain power for their world goverment, and the new "syndicate" (Misaka and co.) go against them. |
2009-12-27, 03:13 | Link #218 |
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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There was a simple question asked a few pages back that I don't think anyone ever answered: Ryuusei no Gemini means "Meteor Twins."
It's pretty frustrating reading page after page of people (a) condemning the show for being obscure and (b) refusing to listen to anyone who explains what's going on. Posters like Myssa Rei, orion, stuopidget, physics223 and others were like oases in a desert. But that's partly because I loved the show, unlike so many people here, apparently. One of my top five of the year. I love the idea that the Yin-like vampiric boy rising from the coffin is like -- but not exactly like -- Kagutsuchi, the child of Izanami and Izanagi, a fiery god who killed his mother at his birth. It seems most likely to me that Hei killed Yin and was carrying her body. His smile when she said he could still kill her was like: "Okay, that sounds good, my love. I'm glad that's what you want, too." She had left her body behind already. And Kagutsuchi will bring death and destruction all around him. Yin didn't want to be a part of that. That Hei and Suou released Izanami from Yin back at the Hokkaido dock was beautiful tragic irony. To say Suou is somehow fake or unimportant seems to me to ignore how much her experience is like our own: we arise from we know not where, live for a while, and then lose our memories and die, to end up we know not where. I don't think Hei was lying to her. I expect him to show up in the new world. And maybe in the old world, too, lol. The late image of Hei carrying limp Yin in the stars was like a hint they will both show up on the new Earth. I hope. But perhaps not everything in this is explainable. Just like life. Great seiyuu performances by Kuwashima Houko (Shion) and by Saiga Mitsuki (Hazuki). And of course by Hanazawa Kana: I think she, Saitou Chiwa (Senjougahara), and Koshimizu Ami (Horo) gave the best lead female performances of the year. Shion never quite got to say what Suou was to him. Not a friend. But from his last words, probably just his big sister (the older twin). East Asian family worship in full force, lol: he has no emotions, but he is still devoted to his family.
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2009-12-27, 05:35 | Link #219 | |
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Now that I've watched the subs, I realized this ep isn't as confusing as I thought when I watched it live. Madam explained everything pretty well. Yin's fate is still unclear though. Personally, I think she's alive, for reasons already given by Nightengale. I hope the OVA will shed some light on all that Izanami business, and maybe help us understand better what happened to her at the end. |
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2009-12-27, 06:07 | Link #220 | |
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