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Perfect 10 | 231 | 49.89% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 60 | 12.96% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 38 | 8.21% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 30 | 6.48% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 10 | 2.16% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 5 | 1.08% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 11 | 2.38% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 11 | 2.38% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 5 | 1.08% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 62 | 13.39% | |
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2007-09-27, 12:28 | Link #81 | |
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This show was so bloody... brrrrr... how can such a blaspheme thing be a romance? Or, best, even an anime?!? Let's just go watching this: So we will all be happy! |
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2007-09-27, 12:29 | Link #82 | |
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And I am sorry if you were miss-lead at any stage into believing that a happy ending was forthcoming. Though I find that rather miraculous since it is pretty hard to miss all the signs and spoilers from the fans of the game.
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2007-09-27, 12:34 | Link #83 | |
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2007-09-27, 12:36 | Link #84 | |||
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The anime adaptation could get a "conclusive end" without any dead, even if Makoto screwed so much. Even if the probability of bad end is high, it is still inferior compared to the rest Quote:
What Makoto did wasn't exactly the issue, but more likely the exaggeration with the characters, especially in episode 11 Quote:
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2007-09-27, 12:37 | Link #85 |
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Sekai continues to be my favorite. She just made mistakes. No-one deserves to die, but Makoto was a total pr**k: weak, selfish, stupid, and cruel. Kotonoha unfortunately went mad about halfway through the series. It took Sekai until the end. The other girls were just shounen wish-fulfilment. Not that the whole show wasn't. And I believe Sekai was probably pregnant. At a month, there is just about no way Katsura could tell. In any case, she certainly believed she was pregnant. This is a show with a black soul and a nasty little heart. I loathed it -- but it worked, and I watched it to the end, lol. It's disturbing and dangerous that violence and nastiness are so fascinating.
It definitely has nothing whatsoever to do with shoujo. Shounen romance with violence and ugliness. Shoujo romance is usually better than this, with better characterization and truer romance. The wish-fulfilment there is for girls rather than guys.
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2007-09-27, 12:44 | Link #86 | |
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As I say let's all see pokemon so we'll be happy for sure! |
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2007-09-27, 12:49 | Link #87 | |
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I wasn't expecting a "happy go lucky" end, as almost no School Days game endings are like that. Most of them are a bit twisted, bitter etc. None are "everyone is happy". "Good" because it is conclusive, and didn't resolve around graphic violence to be solved. And no, that doesn't mean makoto is forgiven, though his actions are much less "unforgivable" than his anime counterpart. quit with trolling please.
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2007-09-27, 12:50 | Link #88 |
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At first, I wanted Makoto to die. But then I felt bad for him; he didn't have to really die. I know, I know, he was a jerk and everything. But I still feel a bit sorry for him.
Anyways, Kotonoha's alive, so yay. I'm glad Sekai died though. She was my favourite at the start of the series, but she was such a ***** later. (By the way, sorry for my poor english, I'm hungarian ^^") |
2007-09-27, 12:52 | Link #89 | |
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2007-09-27, 12:54 | Link #90 | |
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but really i dont believe that sekai had to lie in this case, as much as i like to diss her it was evident that she was pregnant from being sick and her non existant periods at the time.
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2007-09-27, 12:56 | Link #91 | |
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2007-09-27, 12:58 | Link #92 |
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I think an ending where Makoto was left alone would've been just as conclusive. No one needed to die, though it's not bad that Makoto died, either - it was one of the two good choices they could've gone for in order to be consistent with the story; bittersweet ending for Makoto, or his death.
I still don't like Sekai's death though, I feel it was out of place. And I'm also a bit gutted mr. rapist got away scot free, but that's more a personal thing than anything.
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2007-09-27, 13:07 | Link #93 | ||
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Also, about the reliance on graphic violence... This is anime, after all. If there is graphic violence to show, then why not show it? Artsy actings should be left to plays and other shows that took an entirely superartistic approaches throughout. In an anime filled with hyperbolic scenarios such SD, the final scenes seemed perfectly fitting. |
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2007-09-27, 13:10 | Link #94 | |
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I have a tonne of medical textbooks behind me, and Google for everything else. Assuming she wasn't completely lying, Sekai likely had Pseudocyesis, or "False Pregnancy". This is a psychological condition which could be brought about by anxiety and/or a strong desire to be pregnant. Nearly every symptom of pregnancy could be falsified this way. She wanted to be pregnant so much that her body believed her, and release the hormones accordingly. But as I said, I believe she really wasn't pregnant purely because the story's ending is more dramatic this way. This is a story, so story-telling should be the priority. And what's the point of "It's a lie" otherwise? Every line should have meaning. EDIT: And just going slightly off-track, I believe given the choice between being attacked by a girl with a knife or facing the wraith of a dangerous woman in a shoujo manga, I would chose to face the girl with the knife. At least against the knife, I know what I would need to do to defend myself. On the other hand, fangirls seem to be well-versed in the arts of social-politics due to training from society, and thus might make the opposite choice. Just my two cents.
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2007-09-27, 13:11 | Link #95 | |
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tragic really for kotonoha, she was a fine model citizen who happened to meet the worst piece of junk known to mankind...
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2007-09-27, 13:15 | Link #97 | ||||
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The only true DEATH flag were probably the affair with Otome, the bonfire, Kotonoha being abused by Taisuke, and Kotonoha soulless appearance. Even that, it could end without any death, but not necesseraly happily. The definite death flag was the horrible pack in episode 11. and no, even with the camera incident, it could end well. Quote:
The plot didn't resolve the issue, as instead of giving up/turning the page, or win makoto's "heart" for good, it resulted into the suppression of the issue itself. The fact Makoto was killed didn't resolve the issues, and as seen with kotonoha, she is still in that state etc. Quote:
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She was even saying "there isn't anyone inside". Even though Kotonoha isn't idiot, it shouldn't be that "easy", especially in earlier stage of pregnancy to notice the foetus, while butchering the abdomen...
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2007-09-27, 13:17 | Link #98 | |
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i see what you are saying and it does indeed make the story more dramatic - zomg wtf killings for a lie! but to give sekai more points i would chose the other option (surprisingly seen as i am a kotonoha fanboy) - but wow never knew that there was such an illness - you learn something new everyday :3 in this then the whole ending was triggered by a series of unfortunate events. If it is an illness then i cant fault sekai for saying that she is pregnant because she wouldnt know herself unless she did a test - i cant classify this as a lie if she "felt" that she was pregnant as well as all the signs pointing towards that fact as she had no clue it was a lie in the first place. either way it would have ended the same though it would have been a dam shame if it was all for nothing (ie she wasnt really pregnant )
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2007-09-27, 13:18 | Link #100 | |
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False pregnancy could be a case. I don't think she was consciously lying about it the entire time, seeing as there were multiple scenes where she subconsciously rubbed her abdomen when no one was even looking. |
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