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Hell_ping · 2010-10-30, 11:28

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Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Shiage....

Does he really look that old? I thought Kaori would be 25 while Shiage would be 23

. Then again, people are saying that I look 40. This one is debatable, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Ashaman

Gonna have to contest the date on the 4th Novel. That's Angel Fall, isn't it? Didn't that take place over a couple of days?

Now that I noticed it, I have to agree as well. You have to note that Touma ended up in the hospital again. It's definitely longer than 2 days.

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Originally Posted by Ashaman

Yep. Too little preaching before the first punch. THe seond might do a bit more.

But seriously Touma. Why are you such a BadAss?

I especially like the little bit with his left hand. The way its phrased makes it seem its better not to have IB, which isan interesting point of view.

Btw, if you don't realise it, Vol 11 Chp 5 is completed.

Cosmic Eagle · 2010-10-30, 11:33

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Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

Does he really look that old? I thought Kaori would be 25 while Shiage would be 23

. Then again, people are saying that I look 40. This one is debatable, I guess.

Now that I noticed it, I have to agree as well. You have to note that Touma ended up in the hospital again. It's definitely longer than 2 days.

Btw, if you don't realise it, Vol 11 Chp 5 is completed.

I dunno...Shiage looks like someone 26 at least to me.....

outerelf · 2010-10-30, 11:36

I wonder if Touma has a penchant for falling into water- if there is any water nearby, he will fall into it. And almost die- Does Touma have Super Drowning Skills?

I suppose Gabriel has been trying to kill him with her water for a long time now.

Hell_ping · 2010-10-30, 11:38

Which is a good thing that Academy City's in Tokyo.

Off topic: 295 pages already. Can we surpass the number of 'Hajime no Ippo' chapters?

Shadow5YA · 2010-10-30, 13:55

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Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

Which is a good thing that Academy City's in Tokyo.

Off topic: 295 pages already. Can we surpass the number of 'Hajime no Ippo' chapters?

I thought Academy City was a separate island off the coast of Japan? Everything seemed to suggest that AC was almost completely isolated from the rest of Japan.

SuzushinaYuriko · 2010-10-30, 15:11

Academy City is in Japan, specifically in western Tokyo.

Asuras · 2010-10-30, 15:16

Just finished Volume 8.

Musujime is so incredibly mislead, and Accelerator is still badass, even in a crutch. I actually really enjoyed reading, and I think that (so far) it may be better than the currently-running anime.

Now off to do important things...

Used Can · 2010-10-30, 15:22

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Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Wrong....Laevateinn is a weapon found in Hel....

Hmmm...? I really don't know much about Nordic myths, I just remembered having read about Freyr's sword on this site, and they call that sword Laevanteinn.

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Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

And yes, there is mention of how as long as she has the sword up, Innocentius is helpless against her. Basically it takes the form of a glowing blade that floats around her and fights of its own accord.

I see... so, all these weapons are summoned by magic? The idea of Index summoning some sort of Gates of Babylon is rather funny.

I'm also interested in those red wings of hers, but it seems that, as of now, there's very little information about them, am I right?

Cosmic Eagle · 2010-10-30, 20:39

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Originally Posted by Used Can

Hmmm...? I really don't know much about Nordic myths, I just remembered having read about Freyr's sword on this site, and they call that sword Laevanteinn.

I see... so, all these weapons are summoned by magic? The idea of Index summoning some sort of Gates of Babylon is rather funny.

I'm also interested in those red wings of hers, but it seems that, as of now, there's very little information about them, am I right?

The red wings are described as being the same as an angel's and thus when she uses them in conjunction with Freyr's sword to attack, it is written as "a combination of Christianity and Nordic myth"

Karna · 2010-10-30, 21:56

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Tsuchimikado doesn't seem like the spy type and Touma isn't the kind of person who had saved the city.

Fair enough I guess. But for some reason I still doubt it.

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Originally Posted by outerelf

I remember- I brought this up before somewhere else. The response: "Though it IS possible Aogami's a hidden level 5 - way back in vol1 of the novels, Aogami was the first guy Touma thought of as someone 'Strong' to help him fight against magicians and save Index, placed even before Mikoto."

Found the quote:

Oh crap, I never noticed that before. Now I'm really starting to believe Aogami may be a level 5.

Flere821 · 2010-10-30, 22:39

Going back to Aleister's plans mentioned on the previous page, Aleister has been setting his plans in motion FIFTY years ago when he met Heaven Canceller and faked his own death.

Still, what was that bit about 0930 being the half-way point of his plans? I don't remember reading that...

cubicjack · 2010-10-30, 22:42

Kanzaki Ss pt 5 summary:

Spoiler for kanzazki ss pt 5:

The Underwater Prison is having navigation troubles and is heading towards India. At this rate, once the submarine reaches India, the prisoners inside will be release into the wild. Kanzaki and co are sent to sink the submarine and kill whoever tries to swim to the coast. It's a simple killing mission, no need to rescue the wardens inside.

So here they are at the Nagercoil Coast in southern India.

The Underwater Prison is an underwater prison transport that is used to transport magic-related fugitives from all over the world to the Necessarius. There are 12 of these submarines in total. But because these submarines travel throughout the world, they can't go undetected by the Science side. So what they did is transform one of these submarines into a luxurious underwater cruise which is actually operating. To the public, it would seem that all 12 of theses subs are luxury cruises, but in fact only one is, and the other 11 are operating as prison transports. In order to prevent these submarines from being highjacked, they cannot be controlled from the inside. Instead, 7 spiritual devices called the "Cape of Good Hope" are spread throughout the world to navigate these subs.

At first, they suspected that the "Cape of Good Hope" located in India was rigged and someone used it to change the course of the sub. However, the magicians in charge there did not find anything wrong. So Kanzaki and co headed to the spiritual device to chek it themselves. There, they used their own methods, but didn't find any problems with it. This means that the "Cape of Good Hope'" is not the reason for the sub's navigation problem, which means that the problem should be from the inside.

Then Kanzaki suggested the Naglfar. In Norse myth, it's a ship made from fingrnails of the dead, and it transported those who opposed the Gods. The prisoners in the sub symbolize the ones who oppose the Gods, and the culprit who hijacked the sub probably killed people inside and spread their nails throughout the sub, essentially turning the sub into the Naglfar. Since it's now Naglfar in essence and not the original sub, the "Cape of Good Hope" cannot control it anymore.

Just as they started heading towards the coast again to reach the sub, Kanzaki was contacted by another magician sent by the Necessarius. It turns out because Kanzaki and co took too much time, the other magician was sent to destroy the sub. Because the Naglfar did not have diving capabilities, the sub went to the surface, and is therefore easily reachable.

The other magician headed towards the sub, and not wanting iinocent people to die, Kanzaki chased after her on foot. At the edge of the coast, Kanzaki caught up to her and tackled her, then crashed into the sand. However, since they were travelling at such high speed crashing into the sand would be devastating, so Kanzaki had to cast a defense magic. While Kanzaki was focusing on the defense magic, the other magician broke free and headed towards the sub on water. Kanzaki chased after her again. They cannot run on water, but what they can do is using the stuff floating on water (garbage, drifting wood, nets, etc) as stepping stones. This of course is done in high speed. Kanzaki caught up to her and kicked her, but she didn't fall and didn't sink. The magician had a drop in speed, but picked it up again.

While wondering how that magacian managed to keep up with a Saint in terms of power and speed, she noticed that the magician kept on throwing triangle pieces of leather onto thte water. In Norse myth, Vidar slayed Fenrir while wearing a pair of shoes made from triangle pieces of leather. These triangle pieces of leather that the magician throws onto the water symbolizes Vidar's shoes and grants her strength. When the magician threw a punch into the water, the water splashes hit Kanzaki with a great force, even though the punch didn't hit her. This is because the triangles also lets the magician increase the power of the wind around her to give her an even bigger boost.

Then Kanzaki started to use her wires to cut those triangles into irregular shapes. It you cut a triangle with a straight line, at least one of the 2 parts would also be a triangle. Therefore, Kanzaki cut them with curves into irregular shapes. However, the magician retaliated by using the wind and water to cut those irregular shapes back into triangles. Soon this turned into a high speed leather cutting match. Theoretically, the magician would not lose if she doesn't make any mistakes, since keep on dividing these pieces in half would only lead to an increase in the number of triangles, which will give her even more power. The pieces eventually became so small that the magician could not accurately use her power to cut, since the power that she used is not her own power. In the end, Kanzaki won the cutting match and the other magician fell into the water.

By then, they have already reached the sub, and the prisoners inside saw this "fight". Kanzaki basically said to them "I don't know which of you is the one behind this hijacking, but if you still want to fight after seeing that, please come out" (not her exact words, of course), and the issue was resolved without fighting anyone inside. The sub was turned back into a sub and went back on its way to England.

Seriously, I can't help but laugh while reconstructing that "fight" in my mind. And we didn't even get to see the real villain behind this incident.

Cosmic Eagle · 2010-10-30, 23:37

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Originally Posted by Flere821

Going back to Aleister's plans mentioned on the previous page, Aleister has been setting his plans in motion FIFTY years ago when he met Heaven Canceller and faked his own death.

Still, what was that bit about 0930 being the half-way point of his plans? I don't remember reading that...

No.....I said then when reading midway through the series, it felt that 930 was a rather nice midway point pacing and plot wise.....then barely two months later, we get to the current arc...that's what I meant when I said Aleister has some fast moving plans. Because despite plotting long before, Kamijyo Touma only came on the scene rather recently....

Used Can · 2010-10-31, 01:05

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Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

The red wings are described as being the same as an angel's and thus when she uses them in conjunction with Freyr's sword to attack, it is written as "a combination of Christianity and Nordic myth"

Another question, how often has she been displaying these abilities lately? The only ones I'm aware of is the one back in the 1st volume, and when she went berserk in the 21st.

I think it'd be interesting if she manages to know how to control all this power one day.

shmaster · 2010-10-31, 01:14

Yes, Laevateinn is indeed an undefeated sword in Norse myth. None of its wielder has ever lost a battle. Surt can brought upon the end of Norse would and burnt down the Yggdrasil simply because he had that sword.

But what Index summoned isn't the actual sword, just a counterfit formed by magic. in To Aru verse, if you really pull out a divine weapon, the world would be destroyed in mere seconds. Actual mythical artifacts is just too much to be used on Earth.

Edit: I should add, Laevateinn is not the actual name of the sword.

Edit2: I should add, there is no direct evidence saying Laevateinn is really Frey's sword, but a hypothesis.

Chaos2Frozen · 2010-10-31, 01:15

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Originally Posted by Used Can

Another question, how often has she been displaying these abilities lately? The only ones I'm aware of is the one back in the 1st volume, and when she went berserk in the 21st.

I think it'd be interesting if she manages to know how to control all this power one day.

In the first place what was the suppose reason that she can't use magic? The Johann Pen? Well now that the symbol and all the remote-control have been destroyed...

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Originally Posted by shmaster

But what Index summoned isn't the actual sword, just a counterfit formed by magic. in To Aru verse, if you really pull out a divine weapon, the world would be destroyed in mere seconds. Actual mythical artifacts is just too much to be used on Earth.

I'm guessing you're referring to a certain walking natural disaster weapon.

shmaster · 2010-10-31, 01:21

Actually, Laura still has her own copy of the remote control.....

Used Can · 2010-10-31, 01:28

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Originally Posted by shmaster

But what Index summoned isn't the actual sword, just a counterfit formed by magic. in To Aru verse, if you really pull out a divine weapon, the world would be destroyed in mere seconds. Actual mythical artifacts is just too much to be used on Earth.

I see, the weapons she's using are mere copies. I odd it funny she'd summon the real things with magic. But Index actually using the real thing would be funny.

*device of impending doom about to crash on Earth*
Index: EX--- CALIBUUUUUUR!
Tōma: YES!
Stiyl: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I'm guessing you're referring to a certain walking natural disaster weapon.

Accelerator?

Cosmic Eagle · 2010-10-31, 01:31

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Originally Posted by shmaster

Yes, Laevateinn is indeed an undefeated sword in Norse myth. None of its wielder has ever lost a battle. Surt can brought upon the end of Norse would and burnt down the Yggdrasil simply because he had that sword.

But what Index summoned isn't the actual sword, just a counterfit formed by magic. in To Aru verse, if you really pull out a divine weapon, the world would be destroyed in mere seconds. Actual mythical artifacts is just too much to be used on Earth.

I remember the actual (insert ultra long Aztec name here) spear that Etzali's weapon is a copy of had similar capabilities....would not that mean then that those actual gods exist as well? What are they classed as? Angels?

Cosmic Eagle · 2010-10-31, 01:33

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Originally Posted by Used Can

Another question, how often has she been displaying these abilities lately? The only ones I'm aware of is the one back in the 1st volume, and when she went berserk in the 21st.

I think it'd be interesting if she manages to know how to control all this power one day.

What abilities? The wings? She only used those in the WWIII arc...

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shmaster オンドリャァァァ!!! Join Date: May 2009	Yes, Laevateinn is indeed an undefeated sword in Norse myth. None of its wielder has ever lost a battle. Surt can brought upon the end of Norse would and burnt down the Yggdrasil simply because he had that sword. But what Index summoned isn't the actual sword, just a counterfit formed by magic. in To Aru verse, if you really pull out a divine weapon, the world would be destroyed in mere seconds. Actual mythical artifacts is just too much to be used on Earth. Edit: I should add, Laevateinn is not the actual name of the sword. Edit2: I should add, there is no direct evidence saying Laevateinn is really Frey's sword, but a hypothesis. Last edited by shmaster; 2010-10-31 at 02:04.

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outerelf Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Bouncing	I wonder if Touma has a penchant for falling into water- if there is any water nearby, he will fall into it. And almost die- Does Touma have Super Drowning Skills? I suppose Gabriel has been trying to kill him with her water for a long time now.

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Flere821 Lurker Join Date: Aug 2010	Going back to Aleister's plans mentioned on the previous page, Aleister has been setting his plans in motion FIFTY years ago when he met Heaven Canceller and faked his own death. Still, what was that bit about 0930 being the half-way point of his plans? I don't remember reading that...

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cubicjack Kino fanboy Join Date: Dec 2004	Kanzaki Ss pt 5 summary: Spoiler for kanzazki ss pt 5: The Underwater Prison is having navigation troubles and is heading towards India. At this rate, once the submarine reaches India, the prisoners inside will be release into the wild. Kanzaki and co are sent to sink the submarine and kill whoever tries to swim to the coast. It's a simple killing mission, no need to rescue the wardens inside. So here they are at the Nagercoil Coast in southern India. The Underwater Prison is an underwater prison transport that is used to transport magic-related fugitives from all over the world to the Necessarius. There are 12 of these submarines in total. But because these submarines travel throughout the world, they can't go undetected by the Science side. So what they did is transform one of these submarines into a luxurious underwater cruise which is actually operating. To the public, it would seem that all 12 of theses subs are luxury cruises, but in fact only one is, and the other 11 are operating as prison transports. In order to prevent these submarines from being highjacked, they cannot be controlled from the inside. Instead, 7 spiritual devices called the "Cape of Good Hope" are spread throughout the world to navigate these subs. At first, they suspected that the "Cape of Good Hope" located in India was rigged and someone used it to change the course of the sub. However, the magicians in charge there did not find anything wrong. So Kanzaki and co headed to the spiritual device to chek it themselves. There, they used their own methods, but didn't find any problems with it. This means that the "Cape of Good Hope'" is not the reason for the sub's navigation problem, which means that the problem should be from the inside. Then Kanzaki suggested the Naglfar. In Norse myth, it's a ship made from fingrnails of the dead, and it transported those who opposed the Gods. The prisoners in the sub symbolize the ones who oppose the Gods, and the culprit who hijacked the sub probably killed people inside and spread their nails throughout the sub, essentially turning the sub into the Naglfar. Since it's now Naglfar in essence and not the original sub, the "Cape of Good Hope" cannot control it anymore. Just as they started heading towards the coast again to reach the sub, Kanzaki was contacted by another magician sent by the Necessarius. It turns out because Kanzaki and co took too much time, the other magician was sent to destroy the sub. Because the Naglfar did not have diving capabilities, the sub went to the surface, and is therefore easily reachable. The other magician headed towards the sub, and not wanting iinocent people to die, Kanzaki chased after her on foot. At the edge of the coast, Kanzaki caught up to her and tackled her, then crashed into the sand. However, since they were travelling at such high speed crashing into the sand would be devastating, so Kanzaki had to cast a defense magic. While Kanzaki was focusing on the defense magic, the other magician broke free and headed towards the sub on water. Kanzaki chased after her again. They cannot run on water, but what they can do is using the stuff floating on water (garbage, drifting wood, nets, etc) as stepping stones. This of course is done in high speed. Kanzaki caught up to her and kicked her, but she didn't fall and didn't sink. The magician had a drop in speed, but picked it up again. While wondering how that magacian managed to keep up with a Saint in terms of power and speed, she noticed that the magician kept on throwing triangle pieces of leather onto thte water. In Norse myth, Vidar slayed Fenrir while wearing a pair of shoes made from triangle pieces of leather. These triangle pieces of leather that the magician throws onto the water symbolizes Vidar's shoes and grants her strength. When the magician threw a punch into the water, the water splashes hit Kanzaki with a great force, even though the punch didn't hit her. This is because the triangles also lets the magician increase the power of the wind around her to give her an even bigger boost. Then Kanzaki started to use her wires to cut those triangles into irregular shapes. It you cut a triangle with a straight line, at least one of the 2 parts would also be a triangle. Therefore, Kanzaki cut them with curves into irregular shapes. However, the magician retaliated by using the wind and water to cut those irregular shapes back into triangles. Soon this turned into a high speed leather cutting match. Theoretically, the magician would not lose if she doesn't make any mistakes, since keep on dividing these pieces in half would only lead to an increase in the number of triangles, which will give her even more power. The pieces eventually became so small that the magician could not accurately use her power to cut, since the power that she used is not her own power. In the end, Kanzaki won the cutting match and the other magician fell into the water. By then, they have already reached the sub, and the prisoners inside saw this "fight". Kanzaki basically said to them "I don't know which of you is the one behind this hijacking, but if you still want to fight after seeing that, please come out" (not her exact words, of course), and the issue was resolved without fighting anyone inside. The sub was turned back into a sub and went back on its way to England. Seriously, I can't help but laugh while reconstructing that "fight" in my mind. And we didn't even get to see the real villain behind this incident.

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