sola - Episode 9 Discussion / Poll

[stonedzombie]

I'm glad to see that

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they've finally explored Mayuko's background. Somehow I doubt though that Matsuri is the Yaka that changed Mayuko into one......but if it wasn't her, then who? The reason I gave this ep a 7 is because even though Mayuko turned out to have an interesting back story, and they gave a proper ending to her sub plot.......she really doesn't interest me. Out of all the characters in the show, she interests me the least so even though it was a good episode, I'm really not into her so it wasn't that big of a deal. Hopefully the next ep they'll get back to Matsuri and Yorito!

[Icerack]

Spoiler for :

they've finally explored Mayuko's background. Somehow I doubt though that Matsuri is the Yaka that changed Mayuko into one......but if it wasn't her, then who? The reason I gave this ep a 7 is because even though Mayuko turned out to have an interesting back story, and they gave a proper ending to her sub plot.......she really doesn't interest me. Out of all the characters in the show, she interests me the least so even though it was a good episode, I'm really not into her so it wasn't that big of a deal. Hopefully the next ep they'll get back to Matsuri and Yorito!

I suspect that Aono was the one who revived Mayuko, but for what reason.. I'm not exactly sure yet. There could be another character to be introduced as someone already mentioned.. but I highly doubt it. Maybe it was Aono's plot to frame Matsuri so that someone else can take her out for her..

[octoberasian]

Originally Posted by Icerack

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I suspect that Aono was the one who revived Mayuko, but for what reason.. I'm not exactly sure yet. There could be another character to be introduced as someone already mentioned.. but I highly doubt it. Maybe it was Aono's plot to frame Matsuri so that someone else can take her out for her..

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That would be another low-blow against Aono if that were true.

The possibility that Aono revived Mayuko to frame Matsuri to have Takeshi go after Matsuri instead so he can finish her off is just something I wouldn't even consider as a possibility. And, to introduce a surprise character this late into the series is not likely. Aono is already getting enough beef for manipulating Yorito, and, now, trying to kill off Matsuri, which thankfully she didn't.

BUT, there is still at least one more thing we're missing in this Aono x Matsuri x Yorito triangle...

[Guido]

A beautiful closure for the Mayuko-Takeshi arc. Although they will be paying a major influence for the rest of the story, I do not think that they'll be making any further contributions for the major issue.

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The fight sequence were absolutely fantastic in terms of execution, animation cinematics, and choice of music. This was to represent Matsuri stucked-up in a deadend filling with high tension at the second.

My best of the two fights was Aono against Matsuri, and the poor girl barely had time for a little rest before she was pitted again for unfortunate circumstances to be found by Takeshi into another fight.

Regardless for how noble and sacrificial his wish to return Mayuko to normal was, I cannot keep from labeling Takeshi a little jerk. He got too carried away in his attempt to kill Matsuri, but thankfully Mayuko arrived in time and tamed him with her love of the wish they made together.

We have a little bit more of information regarding about Yaka.

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Looks like if anyone dies or gets killed, and the blood of the Yaka is poured likely into their mouths to be drank, then that person revives but now as a Yaka.
Well that is the impression I got after witnessing Mayuko's background.

I am positively sure that a Yaka revived Mayuko, but who was it?

We know that Matsuri fed her blood to revive Aono, and the latter become a Yaka.

We know that Aono either erased or sealed Yoritos' memories to never let him go from her side.

Three important questions:
1. What is the true relationship stirring up within Aono for Yorito?

2. Is Matsuri a turned-Yaka, that is a former human revived by the blood of a Yaka, or she is a true Yaka?

3. Who or what is exactly Yorito?
I am insisting that his real body passed away, and his current one is nothing but a vessel or something else which is suspended in time. If he was truly a Yaka, he would not had been able to stand the sunlight.

[Advent]

Mayuko looks older in the past than she is in the yaka form. IMO

[Kyuusai]

This post presented in Bullet Point Mode:

- The slight continuity loss from the last episode jarred me, as well.

- I'm really kind of offended that the writers expect us to see Aono's inability to kill Matsuri at the final moment as making up for her willingness to kill Matsuri with all her previous attacks. I could understand if they expected us to forgive Aono because of her repentance (which I hope we'll see, but it'll have to be shown over time), but just because she can't do the deed when she's staring at a woman willing to die doesn't make her any more moral. Grr.

- I loved both halves of this episode, but I think they both deserved an entire episode unto themselves.

- The insert song, while beautiful and matching to the scenes, was somewhat jarring, because we've heard it before and it came on a bit suddenly.

- I think a wonderful job was done of revealing answers in a satisfying way while still leaving some mysteries. We get answers about Mayuko's death/resurrection and her relationship with Takeshi, but the who/why/how isn't answered... yet it's also less relevant. Surrounded by their story and the motivation of Takeshi's yaka hunting, it doesn't really matter as much what Mayuko's origins were. Before, we wanted the answer badly because only her death was presented. If we'd instead seen the promise instead of the death, and then later got the backstory of her death, we wouldn't care as much, I'd bet.

- So... How did Takeshi learn all this about yakas? How did he get on Matsuri's trail? How did he get the sword? HOW DID HE GET HIS APPARENT SUPERPOWERS that allow him to leap/climb towers in an instant?! We shall see.

- It appears that this is the end of the second act. A lot of this is being cleared up surprisingly early, I think. While there are still some points to clear up, if it took the rest of the series just to tie up these points, I think it would be far too overly dramatic. No, there's still the issue of How to Cure a Yaka. After discovering Takeshi's purpose, though, I fear that some one is going to have to die a tragic death in the end.

- This series won me over with its gentle telling and it depictions of soothing, charming character interactions in their day-to-day lives. Well... it doesn't seem like we'll get to see that any time before the end, although I'd love to be proven wrong. Dad gum it. One thing I enjoyed about Air and Kanon (I draw the comparison not because of the writer co-writing Kanon, but because they're all series with charming character interactions that erupt into epic tragedy) is that even during the bittersweet drama, we got to return to the peaceful home life frequently. It started out that way in sola (which inspired me to rewatch episodes--something I can't do with these recent ones), but we're far beyond that now, it seems. Prove me wrong, sola! Prove me wrong!

[PastPrime]

Originally Posted by Icerack

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I suspect that Aono was the one who revived Mayuko, but for what reason.. I'm not exactly sure yet. There could be another character to be introduced as someone already mentioned.. but I highly doubt it. Maybe it was Aono's plot to frame Matsuri so that someone else can take her out for her..

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I think that Aono required some type of sacrafice to resurect Yorito and Mayuko was that sacrafice. Then afterwards, perhaps because she was feeling guilty, she turned Mayuko into a Yaka. If that turns out to be the case, then there may be some way for Yorito to scarafice himself and make Mayuko human again.

[orion]

Yep. poor Aono. She can get Yorito's hands dirty but she can't dirty her own hands. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Spoiler:

Takeshi developping super powers for his fight with Matsuri lowered this episode to a "9". Who knew that he was able to leap tall buildings in a single bound or toss a sword hilt and light bolts to that height? Clark Kent can now go on vacation.

However, that still was the best fight of the episode.

Poor Matsuri needs to get over her death wish imo.

[Kyuusai]

Originally Posted by PastPrime

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I think that Aono required some type of sacrafice to resurect Yorito and Mayuko was that sacrafice. Then afterwards, perhaps because she was feeling guilty, she turned Mayuko into a Yaka. If that turns out to be the case, then there may be some way for Yorito to scarafice himself and make Mayuko human again.

This is not only plausible, but also quite likely. The time frame is just too convenient, considering Yorito's age.

However, what makes me doubt this possibility is Matsuri's reaction. Matsuri had already made her promise to Aono and didn't seem phased by meeting Yorito. In other words, this is something that's happened before, and Matsuri doesn't seem to appalled by it occurring. If Matsuri had to make the connection "Aono must be killing people to bring back zombie-Yorito", I doubt she'd be as passive as she is. The question of what happened three months ago also stands.

Once again, we're left wondering what in the world Yorito is.

[Skane]

Man, people seem Hell-bent on making Aono a murderess. Until shown as such, I am going to take the path of "innocent till proven guilty" in the case of Aono. None of her behaviour so far indicates that she is capable of cold-blooded murder just for her own selfish desires. None.

Cheers.

[Kyuusai]

Originally Posted by Skane

Man, people seem Hell-bent on making Aono a murderess. Until shown as such, I am going to take the path of "innocent till proven guilty" in the case of Aono. None of her behaviour so far indicates that she is capable of cold-blooded murder just for her own selfish desires. None.

Cheers.

Except for the whole "trying to murder Matsuri" thing.

[Skane]

Originally Posted by Kyuusai

Except for the whole "trying to murder Matsuri" thing.

Which she stopped. If she can stop herself from killing Matsuri (whom she perceives to be a threat), why would she murder an innocent? If anything, her behaviour towards Matsuri in this episode SUPPORTS the idea that she is NOT the murdering type.

Trying to murder and ACTUALLY murdering are two entirely different things.

Cheers.

[fict_ticious]

Episode 09

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Matsuri really gets knocked around in this episode - two battles while injured. Lol, I wonder if Aono could give Yomiko Readman a run for her money. Takeshi is just plain awesome in this one. Ah, elaboration on Mayuko and his relationship as well. Though I wonder why it was only her that was turned? I'd figure her entire family would have become Yaka and moved to Transylvania or something. Does this mean a Yaka can only do it once? Also, it seems Takeshi has been by her side for a long time. Wonder how he squeezed in time to practice epic sword skills and obtain enchanted items? Freelance or is there some sort of organization he's affiliated with - I get the feeling he's encountered others before.
As for the others, I'm pretty satisfied with Mana this episode since she finally got around to telling Aono "Brothercon, GTFO". Also, she probably realized that Yorito himself isn't normal (well, a little more than usual) after having that episode.

Great episode. Series has just become one of my favorites this season.
Oh, on a side note, Sae is on my list for delicious meganekko.

[Aoie_Emesai]

Yorito is an idiot.

[felix]

Originally Posted by Aoie_Emesai

Yorito is an idiot.

I have to agree ~ considering his age, he has the mind set of a 2yearold.
This has especially been concreted for me considering Takeshi's actions ~

[Phantom-Takaya]

A sky nut doesn't make him an idiot nor immature. When his mind hasn't be messed with, he's shown smart and mature judgement. His obvious flaw is that he's an airhead...literally. That doesn't make him dumb. It just means he's out in another world.

[Icerack]

Originally Posted by PastPrime

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I think that Aono required some type of sacrafice to resurect Yorito and Mayuko was that sacrafice. Then afterwards, perhaps because she was feeling guilty, she turned Mayuko into a Yaka. If that turns out to be the case, then there may be some way for Yorito to scarafice himself and make Mayuko human again.

Then who would Matsuri sacrifice to revive Aono? Unless Matsuri does not need sacrifice to revive others. And if Mayuko was the sacrifice, then what happened to the rest of her family? Was it really just a random attack or were they targeted? From the way things are looking, Mayuko doesn't care about being human anymore.. so if she does get to become human, it'd probably be the end of the series where they find the cure for Yaka.

[kct]

Of course, with a bunch of things being revealed at him is bound to make him crazy in a way or another. Even a normal human suffers from that.

[felix]

Originally Posted by Icerack

Then who would Matsuri sacrifice to revive Aono? Unless Matsuri does not need sacrifice to revive others.

He was suggesting Aono sacrificed Mayuko to bring back Yorito as a human.
Matsuri turned Aono into a yaka ~ I don't think that's exactly reviving.

[stonedzombie]

quick question:

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can someone tell me why Yorito randomly screamed and like passed out in the ep? Was his love for Matsuri just driving him crazy or what?