2009-10-04, 17:17 | Link #461 |
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But in regards to my comment about them being trolls, it's been confirmed before that Underwater has purposely put typos and translation mistakes into their re-encodes of CrunchyRoll subs, in order to create negative reputation against CR. Considering that they've been purposely deceitful before, I wouldn't put unwavering doubt in any of their or their allies' statements.
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2009-10-04, 17:40 | Link #463 |
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Sorry, I meant HorribleSubs:
(Fansub and Industry Panel, Otakon 2009) http://bayoab.info/live/old.php?panel=105 |
2009-10-04, 18:17 | Link #464 |
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Underwater was the one who, on more than one occasion, bought domains that look like they could be owned by real R1 companies, copied the official websites, and then made it appear that said companies were distributing their fansubs as legitimate R1 products.
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2009-10-04, 20:00 | Link #465 | |
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Also, I'd like to explicitly thank both mentioned groups and any other for what they are doing: breaching copyright to bring me the anime that otherwise weren't accessible to me. Same thanks goes to all fansubbers of course, for the same reasons.
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Also, to put some things into their scale, I run a website of my own. It has 100GB monthly bandwidth. The site gets constantly crawled by multiple search engine bots (and tons of spambots too), but the amount of traffic generated in five days is only about 100MB (including lots of crawling from Cuil, which is said to be one of the most worst-optimized crawlers around), meaning about 600MB of traffic per month from various crawlers. Now if the site got hit with something like what BayTSP is doing on NT, you can probably count how much time it would take for the site to go down due to bandwidth being exceeded. Yes, less than half a day. Obviously NyaaTorrents is built to handle more traffic than my site, but even then 12 terabytes of extra traffic per month isn't exactly pocket change to anyone.
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2009-10-05, 13:42 | Link #468 | |
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If you run a medium to large torrent tracker you will be harassed by companies like these. If you can't handle it then GTFO. P.S. CR doesn't pay BayTSP a dime, at least last that I heard. Japan on the other hand is in their pocket, since they have a deal with NTT.
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2009-10-05, 14:08 | Link #469 |
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Obviously NT it can handle it (seeing as the site has been up and running without problems despite the continuous hammering), I was more pointing out that bayoab's claim that "BayTSP's hammering is not shoving bandwidth down NT's in-pipe" is utterly ridiculous.
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2009-10-09, 03:38 | Link #472 |
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Not anime or BayTSP related in any way but related to "crawlers" and e-mail warning.
Yesterday, I received an e-mail from my ISP saying that I used my line to download illicit material. That material is simply "Corel VideoStudio 11.5" got from torrent (and cracks and all). _________ Corel! They used crawlers to get my IP and DNS name (my DNS name is my router)! All I wanted is a video mounting software for my personal use. I don't have a cent to spend on software. All the free ones SUuuuuuuuuu... Anyway. I just hope BayTSP won't crawl me with their animes. If I get a second warning, it might get bad.
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2009-10-17, 21:25 | Link #474 |
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Comcast ISP bittorrent troubles...
Well, my father received e-mails stating that he was downloading software and media via bittorrent was subjected to copywright... bla bla blah...
Well I am worried that I will no longer be able to download anime series, particularly ones that are ongoing as of now. NO WAY IN HELL AM I WAITING FOR THE NEXT HIDAMARI SKETCH TO EVER GET ENGLISH DVDS!!! So, uh has anybody had this problem, and are they able to work around it? It isn't a scare tactic, people have been busted apparantly, including a woman who only downloaded 24 songs, and was forced to pay a fee of some ten to hundred thousand USD for it. PER SONG. I really don't want that to happen, especially with my families current financial situation. No names of any anime series were in the list of accused downloads my father received. Please help! |
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Didn't browse the "download" section very closely (or the forum threads on alternatives), did you?
There are literally pages and pages on this issue, the legal aspects, and the technical aspects. For your particular situation... I'd say learn to use IRC (and xdcc) or find sources to direct download. Torrents are simply too easy to collect IPs for. Most series are not watched.... but a few series are usually singled out for monitoring. Aniplex production series are the most often monitored. Watch the forums, especially for BayTSP remarks, to get an idea of which series entail the most risk.
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2009-10-17, 23:45 | Link #476 |
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This is a big problem with P2P because some people leave their connection unsecured or use WEP that can be cracked within minutes, which can allow leachers to piggyback on your wifi and can download illegal content and eventually the owner will get a email like this even though he/she did not download such content.
I can't stress it enough, secure your wireless networks using WPA/WPA 2 Personal instead of leaving your networks open or using WEP. This will prevent strangers from leaching onto your wireless network. The only bad thing is you cannot connect your DS to the internet with WPA since it doesn't support it.
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Anyways back to the letters you've been getting. For the most part they are a scare tactic, a representative of the movie industry or whoever will download a torrent, record the ip's of everyone they connect to and then send out notices to the ISPs who then in turn send you a notice. They send out thousands at a time to scare people. Yes they do prosecute a few, mainly so that stories about them prosecuting stay in the news. But I've gotten about 4 or 5 of they letters you describe and nothing has ever come of it. It is a very effective scare tactic, it freaked out my parents a couple of years ago just like its freaking out yours now, but I wouldn't worry about it. If you're still worried then you can try to get access to a private tracker, slightly more secure but still vulnerable. Or you can learn how to use IRC or usenet. Another thing you can do, although its bad manners, is to not seed torrents, kill them as soon as they finish. This way you minimize the amount of time you are connected. It is poor torrent manners though.
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2009-10-18, 00:50 | Link #479 |
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I don't know about your school but at mine its still a scare tactic, they might tell you that they're going to do something but I know for a fact that they never have, regardless of the number of letters they've gotten. The best is MIT though, they reject all letters and subpoenas they get (and they get quite of few, it must be really nice for all the students being directly connected to the internet via fiber like that). Granted I haven't gotten a notice from comcast in a couple of years, but when I did get them they never said anything about removing service. Regardless the answer is not to stop torrenting but to torrent more intelligently.
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In some cases, not torrenting *is* the best solution. Besides, there are alternatives on the internet.
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