Steins;Gate - Generic Discussion Thread

[orion]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Yeah, in spite of his mad scientist persona, Okarin is actually a very nice person.

He's generally very accepting of people, and it isn't terribly hard for a person to become a lab member for him, lol.

And once you're a lab member, you're pretty much "part of the family" as far as Okarin is concerned.

In more normal situations, this would be a great character strength for Okarin, but it does leave him easier to infiltrate and victimize by SERN.

And also Suzuha was suspecting the wrong person.

[risingstar3110]

Originally Posted by orion

And also Suzuha was suspecting the wrong person.

Unless Moeka is future Kurisu

*mind blowing*

[Forbin]

Lol I just realized this thing covers the entire Harem of Stereotypes. (And it isn't a harem! Haha)

Moeka - Yandere
Mayurii - Moeblob
Kurisu - Tsundere
Suzuha - Deus Ex Machina
Ruka - Trap
Feyris - Maid

[LKK]

Originally Posted by miroku2192

p.s. - can someone explain the "-tan, -chan, -kun" etc. stuff? I know Feyris sometimes says feyris-tan or something like that, I'm guessing Chan only refers to girls (younger than you?) and -kun is for little boys?

This is my understanding of the honorifics. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

-tan : a regional variant of -san
-chan : used mainly towards girls, children regardless of gender, and cute animals regardless of gender
-kun : used mainly towards boys although it's becoming increasingly common to hear it used towards girls with whom the speaker isn't particularly close. I hear / read it used towards girls mostly by teachers and employers.

[Raiga]

Originally Posted by LKK

-tan : a regional variant of -san

No... I'm pretty sure it's not. It's a cutesy variant of -san, hence its frequent usage on fictional characters or moe anthropomorphizations. And in nicknames.

Though I'm not against there being a region of Japan where everyone says "-tan" and "-chama" and such.

"-kun" is young boys who are peers, or subordinates of any gender.

[RadiantBeam]

Originally Posted by orion

And also Suzuha was suspecting the wrong person.

Well, depending on what future Suzuha comes from, it is possible that in her particular time line, Kurisu was the spy. Or at some point in a distant bad future, for whatever reason, Kurisu turned on Okarin and the others. But if she's in a different time line, then the spy could change.

[Malkuth]

To me it makes more sense, that Kurisu stays with sense and continues the research, while Okarin and maybe Daru go against them... therefore Suzuha considers Kurisu a traitor.

[Calca]

Oh, they have done something that they should not have done.

Of all the ones to pick, its the sweetest and most innocent one

[MeisterBabylon]

And because of that, they picked the best one.

Sometimes, what's best for you, isn't good for you.

[RadiantBeam]

Originally Posted by Malkuth

To me it makes more sense, that Kurisu stays with sense and continues the research, while Okarin and maybe Daru go against them... therefore Suzuha considers Kurisu a traitor.

Well, it could also be that Daru and Okarin were held over Kurisu's head to keep her loyal to SERN, and for some reason or another Suzuha never knew about that particular part of it and simply assumes that Kurisu was a traitor.

[GDB]

Or perhaps Kurisu merely takes tsundereism to the illogical extreme.

[erneiz_hyde]

About which future Suzuha came from, I think she came from the future of current world-line. Because it doesn't make sense to change the past of another world-line if her objective is to save her future world right? Besides, from what I get in S;G, "world-lines" are different from "parallel worlds". My understanding is that there is only just one world at any given time, with other worlds merely exist as possibilities and not actually real until the world-line shifts to that particular world.

Which means Suzuha should've came from the future of this world-line where the Lab-Members witnessed Mayuri's death. I just can't see Kurisu still willingly continue research for SERN after all that. Maybe SERN used hostages? Okabe, Daru, and there're their families too. it would be easy to force the lab members to work for SERN.

But then why did Suzuha only suspected Kurisu and not the other members if all of them were threatened to work for SERN? Also, I wonder how's the fate of Ruka, Feyris.

[RadiantBeam]

Well, it's also possible that Suzuha came from the "Kurisu dies" time line we see way back in episode one. Though that wouldn't make any sense, unless for some reason or another Kurisu survived whoever attacked her and Okarin just panicked when he saw the blood and fled.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by RadiantBeam

Well, it could also be that Daru and Okarin were held over Kurisu's head to keep her loyal to SERN, and for some reason or another Suzuha never knew about that particular part of it and simply assumes that Kurisu was a traitor.

This is what I have thought. Kurisu is not only the one who DOES know about the finest details, and she is also the one that have the most things to be used as means of pressure and coercion, like "Work for us, or something else will happen to your friends, AND your father."

I am fairly sure that, at that point, the killing of Mayushii merely served to make their point.

[Saturn Beaver]

Originally Posted by Sheba

This is what I have thought. Kurisu is not only the one who DOES know about the finest details, and she is also the one that have the most things to be used as means of pressure and coercion, like "Work for us, or something else will happen to your friends, AND your father."

I am fairly sure that, at that point, the killing of Mayushii merely served to make their point.

That may be it, but as far as they know Mayuri may just be extraneous and serves no real purpose to their goal. That is, if say Ruka was in the room as well, they may kill her too to eliminate all witnesses. The remaining three definitely can be useful to SERN, Kurisu is the one who designed the time leap machine, Daru is a pretty good hacker (even normal corporations would like to recruit the guy who manages to hack their system) and Okarin have the unique Reading Steiner ability.

Well, that's basing on what we've seen and known so far. Mayuri may have a special power or something looking at the first few minutes of the show, but whether Moeka knows that and thus kills her ASAP or they don't know like us and kills her just because she's a witness is still up in the air. I'm guessing more towards the latter, but we'll have to wait and see.

[Qpax]

Originally Posted by liro

F*** this episode, now I need to find rape doujins of Moeka.

More like I prefer to see BDSM doujins of Moeka after seeing her in hawt leather suit :3

That was indeed really good episode.

They just have to kill off the cute ones, eh?
*sobs like there ain't no tomorrow*

[Von Himmel]

Whoa, they made a new subthread for this

They just have to kill off the cute ones, eh?
*sobs like there ain't no tomorrow*

...There's a reason why I don't like to come to this thread again until the next episode airs Anything related to steins gate now made me remember that scene again and 'Tuturu' ;_;

[Malkuth]

Originally Posted by Qpax

More like I prefer to see BDSM doujins of Moeka after seeing her in hawt leather suit :3

I had the same thought

[Xcomp]

Originally Posted by LKK

This is my understanding of the honorifics. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

-tan : a regional variant of -san
-chan : used mainly towards girls, children regardless of gender, and cute animals regardless of gender
-kun : used mainly towards boys although it's becoming increasingly common to hear it used towards girls with whom the speaker isn't particularly close. I hear / read it used towards girls mostly by teachers and employers.

-tan is a children's mispronunciation of "-chan" but these days, you see it being used in the Otakusphere to refer to a mascot. It really isn't an honorific.
-kun is used with male colleagues or classmates who are around the same age. Don't use it with girls because it's only used that way in Anime/Manga - mostly with tomboy heroines.

Originally Posted by Qpax

They just have to kill off the cute ones, eh?
*sobs like there ain't no tomorrow*

Nice illustration. I like the way it's rendered - especially the teardrops.

[RadiantBeam]

Originally Posted by Saturn Beaver

Well, that's basing on what we've seen and known so far. Mayuri may have a special power or something looking at the first few minutes of the show, but whether Moeka knows that and thus kills her ASAP or they don't know like us and kills her just because she's a witness is still up in the air. I'm guessing more towards the latter, but we'll have to wait and see.

It seemed more like they killed Mayuri because unlike the other three, she had no real skill to contribute to whatever SERN is planning to do with the time leap machine, hence she was useless and they disposed of her. Of course, the series has shown time and again that Mayuri has a real gift with people (Kurisu and Suzuha in this episode showed that), but that's not the kind of thing SERN would consider important, I imagine.