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View Poll Results: To Aru Majutsu no Index LN - New Testament Volume 15 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 17 | 30.91% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 16 | 29.09% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 11 | 20.00% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 6 | 10.91% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 3.64% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.82% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 2 | 3.64% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll |
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2016-04-28, 10:43 | Link #722 | |
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More importantly tho, I disagree : Salome is not an idiot. Anyway Accelerator will inevitably become part of the focus again eventually, wether that time is nearby or not is another thing. However I'm sorta hoping, as much as I like toaru, that we're actually moving foward toward the end right now. I don't want to have 20 more books with new categories of villains altogether appearing. What Laura began to plot at the end of WW3 is finally starting to move, hopefully that will continue instead of taking more detours. IT is also finally becoming a focus of the story, I'm going to hope this focus grows instead of being shoved aside. The introduction of NT15 at the very least felt like the beginning of a story arc that would be about IT. |
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2016-04-28, 12:47 | Link #723 | ||
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Besides that isn't just her finding out about it, but the public finding out about it. If the parameter list is going to be used, it is going to be used against AC. Quote:
Regardless, that is pretty irrelevant too. She already learned way back during the sister's arc and again during Daihaseisai that according to AC, Accelerator is the only one who can reach level 6 (and not die). So she knows her 'limit' according to the science side is level 5. |
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2016-04-28, 13:35 | Link #725 | |
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It might not happen in the next volume, but it will happen that much is pretty much 100% |
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2016-04-28, 14:57 | Link #726 | |
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That said, LO and the clones would probably just ask for help directly if it went that far. Unlike most people in Raildex, the clones don't seem opposed to asking for help. There is already precedence for it from the Remnant arc. They asked both Touma and Accel to help out. I'm pretty sure the one that talked to Touma specifically mentioned it was for Mikoto so it wasn't just an act of self preservation either. So IF, and it is big if, the sisters got involved, I definitely agree Accel would almost certainly end up acting. |
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2016-04-28, 16:45 | Link #728 |
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I still believe the Parameter List will push Mikoto over the edge but the most important thing the Parameter List being known to all of AC would do is most likey start an all out Uprising or Civil War in AC and will make Hamazura lose his safe zone which AC through black mailing AC which it and to make thing worse if someone like Yuiitsu said that there a way out of what the Parameter List said by an LVL 5 Shift on Hamazura girlfriend. Hamazura could become the enemy of most of AC specially those who are LVL0-2 and even some of the higher LVL 3 and 4 or even people trying to kill Hamazura Girlfriend to make should they don't lose the LVL there at. Beside the backlash from outside AC and most likey a huge attack from the Magic Side when AC is in complete chaos.
I mean worst case I can think of is Laura getting a hold of The Parameter List because you think she wouldn't let the World and AC known about The Parameter List and use the Chaos to try and take contarl AC and the whole Science Side. |
2016-04-28, 17:23 | Link #729 |
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Well, Accel is the ONLY guy we know who has a power that rivals an angel. (Y'know, his white wings and a halo) But as you can see. He's still in the aeon of Osiris, an age where man still worship only a single god. But Aleister wants to create an artificial angel on his own to move forward to the aeon of Horus, an age where man realize the truth and step out of the box called religion and create their own heaven.(At least that's how I see it. Please correct me if I'm wrong)
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2016-04-28, 17:32 | Link #730 |
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Review of NT15
(spoiler alert for those of few who haven't finished it)
Alright, now that I've finished the volume, time to do something I haven't done in ages: a review. My reaction? I must say, this volume was a surprise hit for me, I really didn't expect much from it but I was pleasantly proven wrong. I should keep low expectations more often. The best quality of this story is how it is a culmination of many previous events, which are the best arcs in ToAru. Finally the events of all volumes post NT10 (many of which were seen as pointless or boring at best) and the stuff that was usually relegated to the epilogues (the best stuff IMO) rejoined in one narrative, linking what happened at the forefront and what happened behind the scenes together in an amazing climax. Despite the presence of Kamisato, a character I have never really liked since day one, he didn't bring down the volume and, in fact, provided much tension before the true antagonist stepped up. Seeing how far Kamisato and his faction are willing to go in this volume made them more threatening than in NT14, where they were just annoying. You even get to feel sorry for Kamisato a bit before he betrays Touma. Reading the afterword also bring a better perspective of what Kamachi was trying to do, and why Kamisato looked so much of an haphazardly done antagonist and with uninteresting motivations. The change in setting to a new school, while novel if a bit superfluous at first (really, would most of the novel be changed if Kamisato simply transferred to Touma's school?), is used really well in revealing the hidden villain all along among what seemed to be tertiary background character and as a good red herring at the same time. Seeing Touma's ennemies turning his class against him also brought that delicious despair I like to see Touma experience time to time. As for the villains of this volume: Salome was great for the time she was there, even if she ceased to be the main threat halfway through. I definitely liked her power, it was suitably creepy and an original magic that suitably showcased her as a powerful ennemy. More importantly, her appearance was a good way to bring back old characters we haven't seen in a while. Hamazura and Accelerator's scenes, while brief, were great, in how they re affirm their beliefs even when taunted by an unknown foe. Salome also served well as Touma's temporary ally against a greater threat, and I definitely appreciated her pointing out the flaws of Kamisato and his Faction. When a mass murderer watch you oddly, you know you went too far. Yuiitsu is definitely the best thing of this volume, hands down. For once, behind-the-scenes plotting actually come to play in a novel chapter instead of the epilogues, and how good plotting that was. She is the one who brought back elements from previous volumes (Outsider Mental Out, St. Germain, Sample Shoggoth) and removed the seeming pointlessness of some of the previous events by using them instead of any made-up plot devices to bring down the persistent antagonist of the last 3 volumes. She was even more of a threat to Touma than Salome was (and the mental conflict Touma got facing her about whether or not to use teh gun was great too, definitely better used than in NT12 where it just sounded empty and obnoxiously preachy), and, without Mikoto's help, she could have won. I am definitely looking foward to more of her appearances. Speaking of Mikoto, her "downfall"(?) is an interesting plot thread, if a bit tragic. I said I liked the character development she has been getting in NT (and really liked that she is getting involved in Touma's side of things), but that is quite the brutal outcome. In trying to catch up to Touma (this is a bit his fault too), she is taking a too extreme solution. I wanna see where this is going and if Kamachi can keep it for more than one volume. Minor appreciation, but I liked the fact that the events this time were stretched over a few days (even if only 2), instead of always packed in a few hours like NT13/NT14 did, which always break my SOD in how everything happens in the same short period of time. Unfortunately, despite having quite enjoyed the book, I still have some (admittedly minor) gripes:
But overall, I quite liked this volume, as opposed to last volume, and I hope the plot continues to being relevant and unified like that from now on, no more distractions. My final verdict: Solid 8.5/10, so a 8 in the poll. It was definitely an excellent volume in a long time after the strange succession of NT10/11/12/13/14 for me, which while were not bad volumes (I definitely enjoyed 11 and 12), they were only good enough for me, with always someting stopping me from enjoying them completely, or, in the case of NT14, caused me to skip large parts of it completely.
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2016-04-28, 18:23 | Link #732 | |
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Don't remind me, it hurts
But at least he got shat on on screen, I can't say that much for some characters. Which ones are you talking about? Quote:
Unfortunately, you have to read Jung to understand, and that's not light reading. I am just as puzzled, but for different reasons than you (5/10? Bruh, seriously?). I can't say this volume is better than NT9 or the WWIII trilogy, so it really seems like an overblown score to me.
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2016-04-30, 00:05 | Link #737 | |
I’m sorry, Kamijou-san!!
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Edit: He, he, he, I got the awesome Misaka avatar. YES. I finally stole a good pic lol.
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2016-04-30, 09:41 | Link #738 | |
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The interpretation of jungian psychology that is used in toaru probably has differences from the generally accepted interpretation of it anyway, and it's highly probable that the story will end up explaining that interpretation over time. |
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2016-04-30, 10:31 | Link #739 |
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lets hope the explanation wont be some vague so-so thing that was used for majin powers or like the "explanation" for ollerus's powers (which is one of the most undetailed explanations i have ever head, which on the other hands make it somehow cool )
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2016-04-30, 12:59 | Link #740 |
I’m sorry, Kamijou-san!!
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Lol I similarly expect it to be explained well over time. And a science side analogy for phases is a pretty good description. I'll add that archetypes have to do with general aspects of personality and our mindset, but it's a bit vague depending on the interpretation. All you need to keep in mind is that Aleister is good at manipulating people, and this is why. He can manipulate your motivations and personality.
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