2012-12-20, 21:12 | Link #3301 |
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Although I've notice Saki from the beginning, I must say her popularity after the main cast is surprising for a character without a single line. To me she actually has much more presence than the whole first year girls because I always try to see what she's doing when the first year group gets their screen time.
Another mystery is Saori's need to be popular. I mean, I thought from the beginning that she's must be one of those girl who's popular with boys. She has style, knows how to cook, is caring, has something that I'd call a mother figure, yet she's unpopular?
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2012-12-20, 21:14 | Link #3302 | |||
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The answer is obvious - Saori has never actually met a boy.
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2012-12-20, 21:19 | Link #3303 |
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Lots of talking going on. I want to throw following fuels into the fire
1. Comparing this Girls & Panzer to movie "Top Gun" ? 2. If you study the best military leaders in the history, you will see that they all made plenty of mistakes. Their strength was that they were usually quicker than others to recognize their mistake and address it. 3. One of the mistake I like to point out for Miho is her not calling for aids and resources in her attempt to save the people in the tank sinking in the river. She dove into dangerous waters alone without telling anyone, which wasn't wise. 4. I do see many flaws with how many of the characters were designed. While these character and plot holes are evident, I am enjoying the whole series in spite of these flaws.
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2012-12-20, 21:30 | Link #3304 |
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Which poses some interesting questions. The ship as we know it, is dedicated to the Oarai Girls Highschool.
Do boys live and go to school in the same ship, or are there ships for boys and they are segregated? Since Utsugi Yuuki (the 1st year radio comm) mentioned having a boyfriend in ep 1 and in ep 5 he dumped her. Was it a long distance relationship or was he living in the Oarai ship? Well, that scene was shown as a flashback and between Miho reaction, a cut to the tank in the water and her jumping down, there's 5 seconds where we don't know if she said anything to her teammates or not and they stopped the tank anyways. So I give it the benefit of the doubt. Last edited by Kamui04; 2012-12-20 at 21:40. |
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2012-12-20, 22:01 | Link #3308 |
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If you think about it, Miho isn't very strong as a strategic thinker. Most of her plans, while generally sound, tend to not work out very well.
That said, where her gifting lies is recognising that no plan survives contact with the enemy - I've seen plenty of anime characters shut down because their plans aren't working - and she can adapt, improvise, and overcome. So, in conclusion: Miho is not so hot on strategy, but she is good at tactics and playing it by ear.
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A tank in fire mostly dangerous because ammo, the fuel is rarely explose, thus tankers usually get out quick before the ammo explose, but Senshado's ammunition is special, I don't think they will got explose by fire, so the girls are calm and exhaust the fire.
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2012-12-20, 22:07 | Link #3310 | |
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1. The ammunition is regulated by the League to certain standards as implied by the official rules. This is likely to imply that the rounds are modified either in the actual bullets fired or in the propellant or both. The effect is to reduce the effective penetration value while still retaining most of their ballistic properties. 2. The stated "Carbon Coating", which is implied to provide a level of protection for the tank crew that can protect against lethal penetrations. Thus as long as the crew is inside the tank, they're safe from any weapon's fire coming their way. While I don't think GuP is gonna go into the subject of death, the official rules mention that accidentally killing someone is grounds for disqualification (well obviously ), and there's nothing in the portrayal of the rounds in the anime that suggests that the tanks rounds they use are non-lethal. Miho's only response to Saori's query on getting hit is that she's unlikely to get hit; she doesn't mention what happens if she does get hit, which we assume to be particularly gory. Besides, these are rounds that destroy buildings and can shatter steel, it doesn't take much to see that these rounds quite live and lethal. They even have actual High-Explosive (HE) rounds available to them - see that scene where Hana shoots that snowbank. (Note on that scene: HE rounds do contain fuses that can be adjusted for time to detonation. Thus the shell going into the snow and then exploding after a few moments later is actually correct).
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2012-12-20, 22:08 | Link #3311 | |
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A good team leader is someone who can adapt tactic based on situation. Miho is a good leader. We have strategist to worry about something bigger like strategy.
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2012-12-20, 22:17 | Link #3315 |
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Regards amateurs, there's a report in Armor Magazine that in 1992, a Brigade that was victorious in Iraq (first Gulf War) went to the National Training Center and got their asses kicked...
Not by OPFOR, the best-trained and most experienced fighting formation in the US Army, but by a company of National Guardsmen. Weekend warriors. (To be fair, the NG boys had gotten an intensive training course from OPFOR, and the parameters of the excercise were simulating Soviet conscripts taking on experienced US Army vets.)
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2012-12-20, 22:29 | Link #3317 | |
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2012-12-20, 22:35 | Link #3318 |
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I think there are three problems that have undermined Miho leading her team.
One is that she lacks command presence.She lacks the force of personalty to control her team naturally. That is why Momo was able to take over at the start of their first match even though she is an idiot. Another is that she lacks the will to enforce discipline on her team mates.And before someone starts talking about how this is just a game let me just point out that you would never see that kind of half-assed running around with any high school football,baseball, or basketball team and they are all games. If you put her two first faults together you can see that they make it very hard for her to be any kind of effective leader. Her last problem is the she is only a so-so strategist .All of her prematch plans that we have seen have been very basic and uninspired. But she also has her strengths.She can lead from example and she is good at forming bonds with her teammates.And most importantly she is a great tactician.All of their wins have come from her ability to react to the fast changing tides of battle and chart out a way through them. I think that she is more suited to being a second in command.She could be the mother figure for a more stern and imposing leader while keeping up team morale.And I think she would really shine at front line of battle carrying out her orders in her own way while having her commander in the back looking at the big picture. |
2012-12-20, 22:42 | Link #3319 |
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Those very basic plans are actually were used by many real-life tank commanders. Because strategy is not something as god tier, most of them are very basic things but still many commander fail to used them or other commanders used them successful. In battle, most general set up basic strategy and depend on situations, they change strategy and tactics.
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2012-12-20, 22:52 | Link #3320 |
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That's actually a misconception: Most military leaders do NOT change according to the situation, either because they don't recognize the situation, cannot react fast enough, or cannot think of the alternative strategies. The reason why we have "great" generals is because they are the ones that can overcome the limitation of ordinary generals.
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