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Besides, Hibiki is acting like nothing happened. Did she asked about Kanade? Did she thanked her properly for that day? Nothing at all. And from Tsubasa's eyes. Imagine your friend whom you loved dearly, threw away his life for some stranger in battle. And that stranger came back with your friend's power and says that it will be your friend's substitute with a smile? I would jump on him myself. Even if he was a retard or completely oblivious to everything like Hibiki is. And besides, Tsubasa is, even though she lost one thing that kept her going, is still fighting, day after day.
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2012-01-21, 20:25 | Link #422 | |
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Mind you despite Zweiwing's efforts that day it is the largest casualty number in history of a Noise attack. They were using the concert as an experiment on the Durandal then shit happened. Hibiki may be on the right track somebody led the Noise, someone on the American side, to attack the concert. Hibiki was a civilian, a traumatized civilian. Kanade and Tsubasa were soldiers. Even if Hibiki wasn't there Kanade would've still sang the song of death as they were outnumbered and out of power. By doing so Kanade saved also Tsubasa. Tsubasa doesn't blame Hibiki for that day. What sets her off is that she is wearing Kanade's symphogear. Tsubasa still hasn't moved on. |
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Regardless, there are a lot of things wrong in the way the series is dealing with all this. For instance, I don't understand why Hibiki doesn't even ask about the person who sacrificed herself for her sake. She even inherited Kanade's power. Shouldn't she be at least a bit interested in learning about her? That also might help her to understand Tsubasa better. Also, I don't really get why is everyone so nonchalant at the base. The megane character particularly, is completely out of place in the series. She's supposedly the comic relief but it just doesn't work, specially in light of the situation they're dealing with. And yeah, I also think Hibiki messed up by saying she would replace Kanade. Not only she's pretty insensitive, but she doesn't know anything about Kanade so she's just talking out of her ass. The proper thing to say would be something like "I show you that I can become a good partner for you". That sort of line would convey the important feelings without sounding like an ass.
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A theory more or less plausible taking into consideration the dark tone of the series is that probably the director is fully aware of Tsubasa's pain but is intentionally using that as a motivator to make Tsubasa into an effective fighter(in contrast with her past shy self) and thus intentionally overlooks the girl's suffering and pressing her.
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Yes, she should have acknowledged that Kanade was irreplaceable, while still insisting on becoming partners. But honestly, she's being a lot more patient than I would be. (Also, what's up with having their soldiers lead double or triple lives (student, superhero, idol)? The superhero gig wasn't stressful enough? |
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The idol part of their lives i guess have something to do with their powers don't you think? Probably it has something to do on how good you're at singing xD
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At any rate, she needs to put a little more thoughts into what she says, so to avoid screwing up again.
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Tsubasa's the one who's wrong there. She claims she's an emotionless weapon, as if that excused everything, but she keeps throwing tantrums and disobeying orders. And yes, she's survived two years without someone to watch her back, but is that any reason to reject one now? "Not giving a heck" is criminal, not because poor little Tsubasa has a terrible life, but because she's a deadly combination of powerful, unstable, and indispensable. Quote:
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Besides, all this above still doesn't change the fact that Hibiki is being insensitive towards Tsubasa's feelings. Worst of all is that I can see Tsubasa accepting Hibiki thanks to the usual anime reasoning which goes like ''Beat me and I'll see your determination, weather your opinion has any logic is beside the point, but I'll accept it if you win''.
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2012-01-22, 06:28 | Link #435 |
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Don't you get it? Tsubasa's life is practically ruined. Her friend, which was the only thing that gave her emotional support, that meant ''life'' for her, is dead. Hibiki's existence was involved into one person ending her life and another one's being ruined. If she had any common sense she would apologize for involvement as she is alive thanks to them. Tsubasa's action may not be justified to you, but it is perfectly understandable. But the fact that Hibiki doesn't ask why Tsuabasa attacked her proves her further ignorance. And what about those guys at the base? None is showing understanding towards Tsubasa. If they acted like that when Kanade died and didn't show any support, then it's a wonder that Tsubasa is sane at all.
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Kanede knew if she didn't sing that song they would all die. With her death at least everyone else survives. |
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lol. I want a fucking angsty drama where Tsubasa goes over to the dark side and I dunno threatens Miku or something so then Hibiki loses her shit and goes full berserker mode and it just all falls to chaos with Tsubasa and Hibiki trying to kill each other. Afterwards, the durandal/whatever/final boss thing suddenly awakens/appears and retardedly powerful and threatens to destroy the entire world. Then, in a last moment of clarity Kanade's spirit somehow appears to Tsubasa and reminds her of what is right to the world and Tsubasa sacrifices herself to vitally wound the boss monster. Then it falls to Hibiki to finish it off and finally after some horrible struggle she manages to do it and Miku is miraculously alive. Miku and Hibiki then proceed to become a hot beautiful lesbian couple who live on reconstructing a broken world in memory of Tsubasa and Kanade. Or something like that. The end.
I can see where both sides are coming from in criticising Tsubasa or Hibiki and stuff but lol, honestly I can't dislike either character. This show is simply too ripe for drama and angst, and for that to happen it is pretty much requisite for them both to be flawed characters. I'll accept whatever shit they do so long as their feelings are into it. Symphogear, deliver, please. Just go all out. |
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